Worst Metal Decisions Ever Thread!!

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Chris Cornell leaving Soundgarden or just
Soundgarden in general breaking up sucked.

It was bound to happen! Finally, we have agreed on something!

thejokeriv wrote:

manny wrote:

When KISS first came out in 1974, they were not considered serious musicians and the industry treated them almost as a joke. It was thru touring and playing that one fans over one city at a time, when they finally made it to platinum status with 'Alive' critics and even older rock/metal fans at the time derided them for being gimmicky and for attracting so many young fans, it was not til years and years later that KISS were given any credit by critics and KISS's audience was considered to be mindless drones, of course those mindless drones grew up and I was among them. The percepation of who KISS's audience were did not gel with reality, it was critical snubbery and hippies who thought KISS had nothing to offer musicially. Of course these same critics turned on the Rolling Stones for attracting younger fans.

I am a Slipknot fan not my favorite band but I am a fan. I think as far as the audience comparison and how they are compared to KISS is fair, in regards to how the audience of both bands are viewed in regards to respective hey day . Now whether Slipknot's music holds up or if they are able to maintain their fan base only time will tell.

So far all of their albums have been successful, even more so then contempories like Korn and Limp Bizkit, who have lost fans or seen their album sells slow down.

Yes, but will Sliptknot stand the test of time as KISS has? Korn and Limp Bizkit hasn't

Uhhh... Korn is doing very well still actually,

Chairman_Smith wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

manny wrote:

When KISS first came out in 1974, they were not considered serious musicians and the industry treated them almost as a joke. It was thru touring and playing that one fans over one city at a time, when they finally made it to platinum status with 'Alive' critics and even older rock/metal fans at the time derided them for being gimmicky and for attracting so many young fans, it was not til years and years later that KISS were given any credit by critics and KISS's audience was considered to be mindless drones, of course those mindless drones grew up and I was among them. The percepation of who KISS's audience were did not gel with reality, it was critical snubbery and hippies who thought KISS had nothing to offer musicially. Of course these same critics turned on the Rolling Stones for attracting younger fans.

I am a Slipknot fan not my favorite band but I am a fan. I think as far as the audience comparison and how they are compared to KISS is fair, in regards to how the audience of both bands are viewed in regards to respective hey day . Now whether Slipknot's music holds up or if they are able to maintain their fan base only time will tell.

So far all of their albums have been successful, even more so then contempories like Korn and Limp Bizkit, who have lost fans or seen their album sells slow down.

Yes, but will Sliptknot stand the test of time as KISS has? Korn and Limp Bizkit hasn't

Uhhh... Korn is doing very well still actually,

Except half the band left and their last record wasn't received very well.

As much as it pains most of us (myself included), I believe they are still raking it in.

Smindas wrote:

As much as it pains most of us (myself included), I believe they are still raking it in.

KORN is a household name, they will always benefit from that.

manny wrote:

As far as 'Dynasty' and 'Unmasked', KISS are their own harshest critics when comes to those albums, if you read their book 'Behind the Mask' they are not very fond of those albums but much to Paul and Gene's credit they put the blame solely at their feet and not Vini Ponica.

Speaking of Vini they hired him to make Peter Criss more confident , since he produced his solo album and ironically he thought Peter Criss's drumming was not good enough for a KISS album.

I agree. Dynasty and Unmasked were the band's attempt to keep up with what was going on at the time. Vini Ponica actually did a good job with the production, it was the songs and direction the band took that was the problem. The cool thing was that the band wasn't afraid to try a different approach. Yeah they failed, but so what.

One of the biggest blunders is the original Van Halen getting together to present an award at the grammys with the "welcome back" bit on MTV and then go on and do the whole VH 3 thing. What a let down.

How about bands from overseas not getting enough exposure in the USA or vice versa. There are tons of metal bands i love that I will never get a chance to see because they arent widely known in the world. Also it hurts the distribution of there music as they arent available in the states.

How about letting "Nu Metal" exist

Addy wrote:

How about letting "Nu Metal" exist

I think when Nu Metal came onto the scene it was huge and really became this love affair with teenagers. We had Ozzfest which was pretty much a Nu Metal festival. Granted there are some awesome cds to come out of this era I must say. I do believe though that Nu Metal should of def not been as big as it became.

xyz wrote:

Chairman_Smith wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

manny wrote:

When KISS first came out in 1974, they were not considered serious musicians and the industry treated them almost as a joke. It was thru touring and playing that one fans over one city at a time, when they finally made it to platinum status with 'Alive' critics and even older rock/metal fans at the time derided them for being gimmicky and for attracting so many young fans, it was not til years and years later that KISS were given any credit by critics and KISS's audience was considered to be mindless drones, of course those mindless drones grew up and I was among them. The percepation of who KISS's audience were did not gel with reality, it was critical snubbery and hippies who thought KISS had nothing to offer musicially. Of course these same critics turned on the Rolling Stones for attracting younger fans.

I am a Slipknot fan not my favorite band but I am a fan. I think as far as the audience comparison and how they are compared to KISS is fair, in regards to how the audience of both bands are viewed in regards to respective hey day . Now whether Slipknot's music holds up or if they are able to maintain their fan base only time will tell.

So far all of their albums have been successful, even more so then contempories like Korn and Limp Bizkit, who have lost fans or seen their album sells slow down.

Yes, but will Sliptknot stand the test of time as KISS has? Korn and Limp Bizkit hasn't

Uhhh... Korn is doing very well still actually,

Except half the band left and their last record wasn't received very well.

Well if we're gonna make that the standard.

Megadeth hasn't stood the test of time
Anthrax hasn't stood the test of time
Led Zeppelin hasn't stood the test of time
Black Sabbath hasn't stood the test of time
Deep Purple hasn't stood the test of time
Pink Floyd hasn't stoof the test of time


Just because you don't like it does not mean its not gonna stand the test of time.

journeyman wrote:

One of the biggest blunders is the original Van Halen getting together to present an award at the grammys with the "welcome back" bit on MTV and then go on and do the whole VH 3 thing. What a let down.

No doubt.

Overkill fires Bobby Gustafson.

Even though they have remained a great band over the years...there is a pure rawness that hasn't been recaptured since he left. Once Horrorscope came around they were a much more polished group...not lacking in power...but "something" was lost in that transition...an attitude that Bobby's over-the-top, scalding leads provided. There was a sense of recklessness in those early Overkill records, they were great fun.

Alice Cooper decides to do a "relevant" album for the time and produces "Trash".

As it stands now, that is the worst album I have heard in the hard rock/metal genre. EVER! There is not a single song I like on it. Alice thought he'd be "cool" and invite contemporaries to write and perform songs with him. It was horrible. Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

I hope when I revisit "Along Came A Spider" I don't feel the same way I feel for "Trash".

I am huge Alice Cooper fan but I have to agree with Spec, 'Trash' is just horrible. I was never curious to hear what Bon Jovi would have sounded like if it was fronted by Alice.

detuned wrote:

Overkill fires Bobby Gustafson.

Even though they have remained a great band over the years...there is a pure rawness that hasn't been recaptured since he left. Once Horrorscope came around they were a much more polished group...not lacking in power...but "something" was lost in that transition...an attitude that Bobby's over-the-top, scalding leads provided. There was a sense of recklessness in those early Overkill records, they were great fun.

I like Bobby but my fav guitarist for Overkill is Sebastian Marino. His leads were amazing. I think its also odd that my fav discs from Overkill are the ones right after Bobby leaves Overkill.

MetalRob331 wrote:

I like Bobby but my fav guitarist for Overkill is Sebastian Marino. His leads were amazing. I think its also odd that my fav discs from Overkill are the ones right after Bobby leaves Overkill.

I can understand that view, but technical ability of guitarists doesn't impress me, it's feel and attitude. That's why I prefer Bobby to anybody they've had since.

spectrefate wrote:

Alice Cooper decides to do a "relevant" album for the time and produces "Trash".

As it stands now, that is the worst album I have heard in the hard rock/metal genre. EVER! There is not a single song I like on it. Alice thought he'd be "cool" and invite contemporaries to write and perform songs with him. It was horrible. Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

I hope when I revisit "Along Came A Spider" I don't feel the same way I feel for "Trash".

I'm not much of a Coop fan but I feel the same way about "TRASH." It's basically a Desmond Child album with Alice singing on it.

MetalRob331 wrote:

detuned wrote:

Overkill fires Bobby Gustafson.

Even though they have remained a great band over the years...there is a pure rawness that hasn't been recaptured since he left. Once Horrorscope came around they were a much more polished group...not lacking in power...but "something" was lost in that transition...an attitude that Bobby's over-the-top, scalding leads provided. There was a sense of recklessness in those early Overkill records, they were great fun.

I like Bobby but my fav guitarist for Overkill is Sebastian Marino. His leads were amazing. I think its also odd that my fav discs from Overkill are the ones right after Bobby leaves Overkill.

Gant & Cannavino played on the discs after Gustafson. Marino didn't come in until 3 albums after.

mc666 wrote:

MetalRob331 wrote:

detuned wrote:

Overkill fires Bobby Gustafson.

Even though they have remained a great band over the years...there is a pure rawness that hasn't been recaptured since he left. Once Horrorscope came around they were a much more polished group...not lacking in power...but "something" was lost in that transition...an attitude that Bobby's over-the-top, scalding leads provided. There was a sense of recklessness in those early Overkill records, they were great fun.

I like Bobby but my fav guitarist for Overkill is Sebastian Marino. His leads were amazing. I think its also odd that my fav discs from Overkill are the ones right after Bobby leaves Overkill.

Gant & Cannavino played on the discs after Gustafson. Marino didn't come in until 3 albums after.

What I was saying(I must of worded it wrong) is that i really started liking Overkill when Horrorscope came out. Horrorscope, I Hear Black, The Killing Kind, FTUAB, and Necroshine are all some of my fav Overkill discs. FTUAB and Necroshine being my 2 favs followed by Horrorscope, The Killing Kind and I Hear Black

Mattallica667 wrote:

SuprimuS wrote:

hmmmmm.....
this isnt metal but
Green Day making music

Hmmm. Dookie was a good album, but after that,

That album title makes me think of the scene from the Hulk Hogan movie No Holds Barred.

Thanks for that now heres my tear jerker.. This is still the funniest video I ever seen

spectrefate wrote:

Alice Cooper decides to do a "relevant" album for the time and produces "Trash".

As it stands now, that is the worst album I have heard in the hard rock/metal genre. EVER! There is not a single song I like on it. Alice thought he'd be "cool" and invite contemporaries to write and perform songs with him. It was horrible. Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

I hope when I revisit "Along Came A Spider" I don't feel the same way I feel for "Trash".

Alice's solo career has had quite a few missteps but Trash was the worst by far.

I know we've talked about this before but i think the Cult really dropped the ball with Sonic Temple and the hiring of Bob Rock to produce the record. I blame both parties equally for that disappointment of a record.

Lurideath wrote:

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Black Sabbath hiring Ice T to produce " Forbidden".

I agree, although it wasn't Ice T, it was Ernie C that produced it. Ice T did a guest appearance. The album was horrible!

Judas Priest writing and recording Nostradamus.

Anthrax continuing as a band.

Will you guys stop picking on Ice T he is one of the only good sophisticated Rappers in the genre and he had a great metal/punk band called Body Count which Ruled in the past and he has also earned his respect within the metal community which explains why he was able to collaborate with respectable metal bands like Slayer, Motorhead and Black Sabbath and he is a diehard metalhead as well his favourite song is angel of death by Slayer and is a huge fan of Dio. Like cmon he doesn't even rap on the songs because like every other true metalhead he believes that mixing rap and metal is immoral and has criticised amateurish rap metal bands like Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit in the past thats why he sings instead of rapping.

Also heres a move that was 1000 times worse than Black Sabbath collaborating with Ice T. MetallicA collaborating with that irritating amateurish rapper Ja Rule that was completely blasphemous even worse than releasing St Anger

I agree totally about Judas priest writing Nostradamas that album was almost as bad as Demolition.

Dimebag forming Damage Plan with his brother

My Sister's Machine the best and most underrated grunge band breaking up. A sad tragic day indeed hopefully they'll reunite someday

Kirk Hammet wearing a Trivium T shirt

Mr Bungle and Faith No More breaking up I recently spoke with Danny Leifetz the drummer from Mr Bungle and he said there is no chance of a reunion

Fates Warning turning to pop rock

Artch breaking up

Trivium forming as band

Kanye west collaborating with u2 on their latest album

Metal bands who mix emo and rap with metal a nasty combination

I for one dont mind Trivium just another band people seem to hate because they got a little popular. They have some killer songs imo..