Iced Earth

Gilbert wrote:

I feel very sad for Jon. He truly doesn't deserve any of this.

As TZ stated, there are people in very high positions who have done much worse, and are still ruling our destiny.

I wish people could see past “the veil”. Jon’s mistake is Mickey Mouse compared to some others in government that operate in the shadows.

For example, (but totally unrelated)
How many people that knew Jeffrey Dahmer had a clue of what he was doing in private? Looks are deceiving.

I think a lot of people in government are very bad. The word “mafia” seems appropriate.

Is this not a corrupt person?

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Eyesore wrote:

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Always an excuse... typical. Minimize everything. I already know what you think of Trump, but could you not deflect and also condemn Biden?

Epstein was a “socialite” that hung out with almost everyone with money at one time or another. But how many are known to be close with a KKK leader?

I’ve noticed a big double standard in politics...

If a Democrat has a shady past of any kind, they are usually forgiven over time. But if a conservative or Republican has ever made any kind of mistake, it is non-stop ridicule and condemnation. Why is that? How do you justify that hypocrisy?

In fact... Trump used to be a Democrat and he was embraced. Only when he became a Republican and ran for president has he suddenly been ostracized and condemned. If he was endorsed by the Democrats, everything he has done as president would be protected and minimized. It’s a membership thing... It’s who you know. Once Trump started pulling us away from Obama’s globalist deals, that’s when the clandestine “shot callers” started their war with him.

Watch how any shitty or unethical action (war or military strikes etc) that Biden will do in the next four years will be overlooked or minimized by most of the big news networks. It’s not a coincidence...

Troublezone wrote:

Watch how any shitty or unethical action (war or military strikes etc) that Biden will do in the next four years will be overlooked or minimized by most of the big news networks. It’s not a coincidence...

I'm fine with him unless he suddenly decides to raise the tolls on american made heavy metal t-shirts.

Then I'm not fine with him.

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Always an excuse... typical. Minimize everything. I already know what you think of Trump, but could you not deflect and also condemn Biden?

Epstein was a “socialite” that hung out with almost everyone with money at one time or another. But how many are known to be close with a KKK leader?

No, I won't condemn Biden, because he wasn't close with a KKK leader; he knew someone who was once a KKK leader, way back in the 1940s. That's not an excuse. Do your research on Byrd. That's not minimizing anything. The guy was in the KKK when he was young, never denied it, always denounced it, was open about it, etc. For 60 years, by the way.

Epstein was a child-trafficking pedophile. Trump is a self-admitted sexual predator, a man who has made countless sexual comments about his own daughter. I'll take a guy who knew someone who was once in the KKK over someone who bangs kids any day.

But that's not the point, of course. You proved my point by referring to Epstein as a "socialite," not a fucking child-trafficking, pedophile monster.

It seems to me there are no non-bias news medias out there... everything is either left or right and people tend to choose the station that fits their political beliefs.. everything you read on the Internet is questionable and when it comes to politics most of it can be proved wrong depending on which station or website you’re looking at... I really dont care about who any politician knows or their personal failures.. I chose Biden  because he’s a globalist and I rejected Trump because he’s a nationalist and I favor globalism over nationalism ...it really just came down to that for me...

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Always an excuse... typical. Minimize everything. I already know what you think of Trump, but could you not deflect and also condemn Biden?

Epstein was a “socialite” that hung out with almost everyone with money at one time or another. But how many are known to be close with a KKK leader?

No, I won't condemn Biden, because he wasn't close with a KKK leader; he knew someone who was once a KKK leader, way back in the 1940s. That's not an excuse. Do your research on Byrd. That's not minimizing anything. The guy was in the KKK when he was young, never denied it, always denounced it, was open about it, etc. For 60 years, by the way.

Epstein was a child-trafficking pedophile. Trump is a self-admitted sexual predator, a man who has made countless sexual comments about his own daughter. I'll take a guy who knew someone who was once in the KKK over someone who bangs kids any day.

But that's not the point, of course. You proved my point by referring to Epstein as a "socialite," not a fucking child-trafficking, pedophile monster.

He was more than just a guy that knew Byrd. They were friends. He gave his fucking eulogy! I guess you also have a selective memory about Biden’s sexual allegations. He has also said things that would be classic red flags of a child predator. “He loves kids rubbing his legs and jumping on his lap”! And then referring to black kids as “roaches”. Sounds like some classic “old timey” racist jargon. I’m sure he and Byrd had a lot to talk about. Byrd only changed his tune because he ran in politics. I’m sure he still talked the same behind closed doors. It’s was a facade.




Are you serious with that last stupid comment? Trying to insinuate something disgusting about me huh? Very defensive for a guy you don’t personally know! You completely missed my point! I was talking about the fact that many rich people knew Epstein. He was both a socialite and a predator! Tons of celebrities hung with him. Including the Clintons... and I’m willing to bet Joe and his son Hunter!



Do you like this better?
Obama and Biden are pretty close! Maybe Joe didn’t go to the same parties...  

The FBI indicates they have recovered no firearms from the 'armed insurrection': https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/03/fbi-guns-capitol-riots/

those folks staging an 'armed insurrection' were either really good at concealing their firearms or really terrible at preparation...

exact33 wrote:

The FBI indicates they have recovered no firearms from the 'armed insurrection': https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/03/fbi-guns-capitol-riots/

those folks staging an 'armed insurrection' were either really good at concealing their firearms or really terrible at preparation...

They had something much deadlier than firearms...they had bear spray.

007 wrote:

exact33 wrote:

The FBI indicates they have recovered no firearms from the 'armed insurrection': https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/03/fbi-guns-capitol-riots/

those folks staging an 'armed insurrection' were either really good at concealing their firearms or really terrible at preparation...

They had something much deadlier than firearms...they had bear spray.

no wonder AOC was scared....


from a different building..

Geez...

Is there anything happening in Finland worth talking about?

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Always an excuse... typical. Minimize everything. I already know what you think of Trump, but could you not deflect and also condemn Biden?

Epstein was a “socialite” that hung out with almost everyone with money at one time or another. But how many are known to be close with a KKK leader?

No, I won't condemn Biden, because he wasn't close with a KKK leader; he knew someone who was once a KKK leader, way back in the 1940s. That's not an excuse. Do your research on Byrd. That's not minimizing anything. The guy was in the KKK when he was young, never denied it, always denounced it, was open about it, etc. For 60 years, by the way.

Epstein was a child-trafficking pedophile. Trump is a self-admitted sexual predator, a man who has made countless sexual comments about his own daughter. I'll take a guy who knew someone who was once in the KKK over someone who bangs kids any day.

But that's not the point, of course. You proved my point by referring to Epstein as a "socialite," not a fucking child-trafficking, pedophile monster.

He was more than just a guy that knew Byrd. They were friends. He gave his fucking eulogy! I guess you also have a selective memory about Biden’s sexual allegations. He has also said things that would be classic red flags of a child predator. “He loves kids rubbing his legs and jumping on his lap”! And then referring to black kids as “roaches”. Sounds like some classic “old timey” racist jargon. I’m sure he and Byrd had a lot to talk about. Byrd only changed his tune because he ran in politics. I’m sure he still talked the same behind closed doors. It’s was a facade.




Are you serious with that last stupid comment? Trying to insinuate something disgusting about me huh? Very defensive for a guy you don’t personally know! You completely missed my point! I was talking about the fact that many rich people knew Epstein. He was both a socialite and a predator! Tons of celebrities hung with him. Including the Clintons... and I’m willing to bet Joe and his son Hunter!



Do you like this better?
Obama and Biden are pretty close! Maybe Joe didn’t go to the same parties...  

So tiring. If you're going to use a relationship between Biden and a man who was in the KKK way back in the 1940s but denounced it and was open about his mistakes for the following SIXTY years yet turn a blind eye to Trump's friendship with a fucking pedophile and child trafficker, you're out of your mind! I get that he was a socialite as well, but come on.

And yes, Biden has made racist comments. I don't like Biden. FYI.

007 wrote:

exact33 wrote:

The FBI indicates they have recovered no firearms from the 'armed insurrection': https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/03/fbi-guns-capitol-riots/

those folks staging an 'armed insurrection' were either really good at concealing their firearms or really terrible at preparation...

They had something much deadlier than firearms...they had bear spray.

The funny thing is, when a black man is killed by cops for carrying a stick or something, and liberals go bananas, conservatives argue that to be armed you don't need a gun! A stick can be a deadly weapon, of course. Which is true. I agree.

But I guess that's only a convenient argument.

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

KKK leader...in the 1940s. Denounced that for the next 60 years! Conservatives really need to stop sharing the Byrd crap. Haha.

Always an excuse... typical. Minimize everything. I already know what you think of Trump, but could you not deflect and also condemn Biden?

Epstein was a “socialite” that hung out with almost everyone with money at one time or another. But how many are known to be close with a KKK leader?

No, I won't condemn Biden, because he wasn't close with a KKK leader; he knew someone who was once a KKK leader, way back in the 1940s. That's not an excuse. Do your research on Byrd. That's not minimizing anything. The guy was in the KKK when he was young, never denied it, always denounced it, was open about it, etc. For 60 years, by the way.

Epstein was a child-trafficking pedophile. Trump is a self-admitted sexual predator, a man who has made countless sexual comments about his own daughter. I'll take a guy who knew someone who was once in the KKK over someone who bangs kids any day.

But that's not the point, of course. You proved my point by referring to Epstein as a "socialite," not a fucking child-trafficking, pedophile monster.

He was more than just a guy that knew Byrd. They were friends. He gave his fucking eulogy! I guess you also have a selective memory about Biden’s sexual allegations. He has also said things that would be classic red flags of a child predator. “He loves kids rubbing his legs and jumping on his lap”! And then referring to black kids as “roaches”. Sounds like some classic “old timey” racist jargon. I’m sure he and Byrd had a lot to talk about. Byrd only changed his tune because he ran in politics. I’m sure he still talked the same behind closed doors. It’s was a facade.




Are you serious with that last stupid comment? Trying to insinuate something disgusting about me huh? Very defensive for a guy you don’t personally know! You completely missed my point! I was talking about the fact that many rich people knew Epstein. He was both a socialite and a predator! Tons of celebrities hung with him. Including the Clintons... and I’m willing to bet Joe and his son Hunter!



Do you like this better?
Obama and Biden are pretty close! Maybe Joe didn’t go to the same parties...  

So tiring. If you're going to use a relationship between Biden and a man who was in the KKK way back in the 1940s but denounced it and was open about his mistakes for the following SIXTY years yet turn a blind eye to Trump's friendship with a fucking pedophile and child trafficker, you're out of your mind! I get that he was a socialite as well, but come on.

And yes, Biden has made racist comments. I don't like Biden. FYI.

I hate Epstein! Let that be very clear.

Big news

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-pleads-guilty-to-two-charges-for-his-role-in-capitol-riot/

According to CNN, prosecutors and Schaffer's attorneys agreed to recommend that he get between three and a half and four and a half years in prison, based on how fruitful his cooperation is with the government.

Most people get released early. He’ll probably only serve two years of his sentence for having no prior criminal history.

Maybe he'll cut a couple of solo albums from his prison cell, like Count Grishnakh did.

No place like prison to dampen your extremist views.

Oh wait, that's the place where you get swastikas tattooed all around your body.

Ummmm, what?

Fat Freddy wrote:

Maybe he'll cut a couple of solo albums from his prison cell, like Count Grishnakh did.

He could do a Jon’ny Cash acoustic project. Call it Folk Earth.

Hopefully he doesn’t get “Iced”.

I think it's gonna give him a boost, to write some interesting material.