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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm

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That looks like Jonathan Davis from Korn. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2021 3:18 pm

JON SCHAFFER's ICED EARTH Bandmates: 'We Absolutely Do Not Condone Nor Do We Support Riots Or Acts Of Violence'

Iced Earth has never been more relevant and more in headlines. Time to drop a new single?! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 7:29 am

Former ICED EARTH Singer TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says He 'Never Talked Politics' With JON SCHAFFER
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 1:08 pm

Lari wrote:
Former ICED EARTH Singer TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says He 'Never Talked Politics' With JON SCHAFFER

most likely because he was never in a band long enough!

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 1:15 pm

exact33 wrote:
Lari wrote:
Former ICED EARTH Singer TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says He 'Never Talked Politics' With JON SCHAFFER

most likely because he was never in a band long enough!

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 3:06 pm

exact33 wrote:
Lari wrote:
Former ICED EARTH Singer TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says He 'Never Talked Politics' With JON SCHAFFER

most likely because he was never in a band long enough!

Laughing very hard
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 3:07 pm

exact33 wrote:
Lari wrote:
Former ICED EARTH Singer TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says He 'Never Talked Politics' With JON SCHAFFER

most likely because he was never in a band long enough!

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2021 9:45 pm

Jon Schaffer turned himself in to authorities this weekend:
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-arrested-for-role-in-capitol-riot/

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 23, 2021 4:35 am

http://metaladdicts.com/iced-earth-fans-demand-refund-after-jon-schaffer-capitol-hill/
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 23, 2021 9:12 am

brokentulsa wrote:
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Well that's just plain stupid.

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 23, 2021 11:31 am

007 wrote:
brokentulsa wrote:
http://metaladdicts.com/iced-earth-fans-demand-refund-after-jon-schaffer-capitol-hill/


Well that's just plain stupid.

welcome to 2021!

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 12:52 pm

Stu Block officially quits the band. 

https://www.facebook.com/stublockofficial/posts/269241247904251

Also, apparently Luke Appleton, the bass player is out. He's with Blaze Bayley now anyway, so it's not such a big blow to him obviously.

Expect a BLOCK solo album sometime soon...
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 1:02 pm

Stu is an amazing vocalist. I am curious to see what he will be doing next.
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 1:25 pm

Lari wrote:
Stu Block officially quits the band. 

https://www.facebook.com/stublockofficial/posts/269241247904251

Also, apparently Luke Appleton, the bass player is out.

I suppose that was inevitable.

Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 2:25 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
Lari wrote:
Stu Block officially quits the band. 

https://www.facebook.com/stublockofficial/posts/269241247904251

Also, apparently Luke Appleton, the bass player is out.

I suppose that was inevitable.

Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 2:25 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
Lari wrote:
Stu Block officially quits the band. 

https://www.facebook.com/stublockofficial/posts/269241247904251

Also, apparently Luke Appleton, the bass player is out.

I suppose that was inevitable.

Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 3:16 pm

Megadeth deja vu...

Reminds me of when Shawn Drover and Chris Broderick quit Megadeth at the same time. (obviously for a different reason)

At the end of the day, Jon Schaffer is just like Dave Mustaine. He is the heart and visionary of his band. He will eventually rebuild. Both bands have also had revolving doors of “hired guns”. That said, I’m sure it will be harder to replace Stu Block than the other positions.
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 4:10 pm

exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 4:51 pm

Ultimately, I think Jon will get probation. This is a reset moment for Iced Earth.
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 4:59 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

How long can the government hold you without charges?

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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 4:59 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

So I guess that just leaves Jon and the drummer. For now...
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 5:01 pm

exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

How long can the government hold you without charges?

Not sure... but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a messed up law on the books from Bush’s “patriot act” that can hold you without pressing charges.
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 5:48 pm

Troublezone wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

How long can the government hold you without charges?

Not sure... but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a messed up law on the books from Bush’s “patriot act” that can hold you without pressing charges.
I am pretty sure if he is charged as a terrorist, they can pretty much bury him without a trial because of the patriot act. At least I seem to remember that's one of the things they can do. I'd google it, but I'm sure James will correct me soon enough lol

Far as how long they can hold someone without charge, I'm not sure. From my understanding, it's not very long. So either they charged him and nobody knows what the charge is, or they are breaking the law, or because of his alleged crime, there might be something they are using to keep him longer than normal. James? Laughing very hard
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 5:58 pm

Wrecked Neck wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
exact33 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:


Since Jon will presumably be tied up with, errr, let's just call them "certain legal issues" for the foreseeable future, is there even really a "band" for them to leave at this point?

has he been charged?

Don't think so, but he's still coolin' his heels in jail in Indiana, waiting to be shipped to D.C.

.....aaaaaand on a related note, I.E.'s other guitar player has announced that he's jumping ship too.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/iced-earth-guitarist-jake-dreyer-distances-himself-from-band-says-he-is-focusing-solely-on-witherfall/

How long can the government hold you without charges?

Not sure... but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a messed up law on the books from Bush’s “patriot act” that can hold you without pressing charges.
I am pretty sure if he is charged as a terrorist, they can pretty much bury him without a trial because of the patriot act. At least I seem to remember that's one of the things they can do. I'd google it, but I'm sure James will correct me soon enough lol

Far as how long they can hold someone without charge, I'm not sure. From my understanding, it's not very long. So either they charged him and nobody knows what the charge is, or they are breaking the law, or because of his alleged crime, there might be something they are using to keep him longer than normal. James? Laughing very hard

If he had just been arrested by Indiana PD, he'd already be out of jail. Or charged with something if not. But all this shit is federal, so I'm assuming the laws are different there.
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PostSubject: Re: Iced Earth   Iced Earth - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2021 7:15 pm

Wrecked Neck wrote:
James? Laughing very hard

You are correct Laughing very hard
The Patriot Act allows detaining terrorists indefinitely without formal charges or trial.

I would think he'd be in Federal custody already if that was the case?
Some jurisdictions have city, county, state , and federal holding in the same facility? Do not the case in Indiana.

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