Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:13 am
I went to the mall this morning to see if they had it, but they didn't. The guy said I was the second person there to ask about it. Hopefully it'll be in tomorrow.
Got it at Best Buy today. I think its pretty good. I actually didn't mind Shawns drumming on this one. The music wasn't thrashy but I think its a step in a right direction for them and actually fits shawns drumming better than their thrashier/faster stuff.
Got it at Best Buy today. I think its pretty good. I actually didn't mind Shawns drumming on this one. The music wasn't thrashy but I think its a step in a right direction for them and actually fits shawns drumming better than their thrashier/faster stuff.
Now it all comes back - I remember you were never a big fan of his drumming. It just arrived from Amazon - will crank it later!
Not at all. I'm still not cause he messes up the older songs but this album he can do no problem and sound pretty decent at it. He seems to just play it safe all the time and it just doesn't fit in the thrashier side of Megadeth.
Also got my copy at Bestbuy today after seeing how much both FYE and a local record store were charging.
It hasn't blown me away like Endgame did, but I really like it. Not as thrashy for sure, but it's solid and I'm sure it will grow on me. I think it really helps that I avoid listening to any of the new songs until I have the cd in my hands.
Picked mine up a couple hours ago at Walmart. Haven't heard it yet...waiting til my drive to work in the morning.
Leatherface Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:51 am
Anyone see Megadeth on Jimmy Kimmell? It was a hoot seeing Dave dressed as Frankenstein
arachnoplasma Metal student
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:11 am
Leatherface wrote:
Anyone see Megadeth on Jimmy Kimmell? It was a hoot seeing Dave dressed as Frankenstein
I just now watched... haha, Frankenstaine!
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:42 am
arachnoplasma wrote:
Leatherface wrote:
Anyone see Megadeth on Jimmy Kimmell? It was a hoot seeing Dave dressed as Frankenstein
I just now watched... haha, Frankenstaine!
Dude...that solo. Never thought I'd hear Broderick not play so well.
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:44 am
arachnoplasma wrote:
Leatherface wrote:
Anyone see Megadeth on Jimmy Kimmell? It was a hoot seeing Dave dressed as Frankenstein
I just now watched... haha, Frankenstaine!
Alex Dee Rokket Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:43 am
I bought this album on Nov. 1 and I must say I am definitely enjoying quite a bit more than Endgame, even though it hardly packs anything new, surprising or all that different from the last 3 albums.
I mean this with both a sense of happiness and a slight nostalgia. Without a doubt Megadeth has been on a road to redemption since Risk, and arguably the last 4 studio releases have seen Megadeth gradually grow again to a full fledged metal unit - at times thrashy at times more straight out heavy metal.
Th1rt3en does much what the post-Risk albums have done for Megadeth in the last decade, marrying up the past decades of Megadeth - the 80s fast-riff attack and intricate leads with Megadeth's 90s groove and catchy tunes. I guess for Dave this is his comfort zone and I can see why, for if he were to step outside this balance the style and sound would cease to be Megadeth. Even simpler put, Mustaine is focusing on the reference points from the band's catalog that defined Megadeth at its best rather than at its worst and Th1rt3en much like Endgame before it and much like the last decade of Megadeth as a whole has been a sort of revision (rather than the 90s re-imaiging) of Megadeth's sound.
The end result is both pleasing and somewhat disheartening. It depends on your perspective of what made Megadeth good in the past and I guess also when you became a fan of the band. Personally, I became a fan during Megadeth's more experimental period of the mid-90s and for me, Mustaine's different musical escapades and experiments is what gave Megadeth a leading edge over its peers. It was this unpredictable feeling after RIP that made Megadeth for me a prime metal band.
In that regard I find it disheartening that the band has become so predictable by this point. I guess what I said above stands but I can't help but wonder in which other direction Mustaine could steer Megadeth, without taking away the band's identity. I am not wishing for another Risk, rather the spirit of musical adventure the band had at one point.
Th1rt3en is a great album but it lacks the unique stylitic identity that graced the albums from which it draws its influence.
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:23 am
I like this one but i agree with Rocketman. There are some really good songs and there are some songs that are filler. It is a good effort overall though.
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:47 am
Great album! I am really enjoying it!!!!! Better than Endgame? Maybe, I need more time to decide that
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:11 am
Temple of Blood wrote:
He's a super-boring drummer.
Another Chuch Behler imo.
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:15 am
Alex Dee Rokket wrote:
I bought this album on Nov. 1 and I must say I am definitely enjoying quite a bit more than Endgame, even though it hardly packs anything new, surprising or all that different from the last 3 albums.
I mean this with both a sense of happiness and a slight nostalgia. Without a doubt Megadeth has been on a road to redemption since Risk, and arguably the last 4 studio releases have seen Megadeth gradually grow again to a full fledged metal unit - at times thrashy at times more straight out heavy metal.
Th1rt3en does much what the post-Risk albums have done for Megadeth in the last decade, marrying up the past decades of Megadeth - the 80s fast-riff attack and intricate leads with Megadeth's 90s groove and catchy tunes. I guess for Dave this is his comfort zone and I can see why, for if he were to step outside this balance the style and sound would cease to be Megadeth. Even simpler put, Mustaine is focusing on the reference points from the band's catalog that defined Megadeth at its best rather than at its worst and Th1rt3en much like Endgame before it and much like the last decade of Megadeth as a whole has been a sort of revision (rather than the 90s re-imaiging) of Megadeth's sound.
The end result is both pleasing and somewhat disheartening. It depends on your perspective of what made Megadeth good in the past and I guess also when you became a fan of the band. Personally, I became a fan during Megadeth's more experimental period of the mid-90s and for me, Mustaine's different musical escapades and experiments is what gave Megadeth a leading edge over its peers. It was this unpredictable feeling after RIP that made Megadeth for me a prime metal band.
In that regard I find it disheartening that the band has become so predictable by this point. I guess what I said above stands but I can't help but wonder in which other direction Mustaine could steer Megadeth, without taking away the band's identity. I am not wishing for another Risk, rather the spirit of musical adventure the band had at one point.
Th1rt3en is a great album but it lacks the unique stylitic identity that graced the albums from which it draws its influence.
Excellent review.
I jammed this last night on my iPod and it sounded great to me. Like the review above, some thrashy parts, but mostly it's just straight forward heavy metal. I'm not sure what any Megadeth fan would want to complain about.
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Subject: Re: Megadeth - TH1RT3EN Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:36 am
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I'm not sure what any Megadeth fan would want to complain about.
Oh we'll always find something to complain about!
Hopefully I can escape work today at lunch and snag a copy. Couldn't get out yesterday.
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I heard someone on another forum comparing ABSU drummer Prosciptor to a super-crazy version of Gar Samuelson. After thinking about it a bit, I had to agree. Imagine how exciting MEGADETH would be if they had him or Gene Hoglan on drums! They're a top-tier metal band, there's really no excuse for them not getting a top-tier drummer.
I heard someone on another forum comparing ABSU drummer Prosciptor to a super-crazy version of Gar Samuelson. After thinking about it a bit, I had to agree. Imagine how exciting MEGADETH would be if they had him or Gene Hoglan on drums! They're a top-tier metal band, there's really no excuse for them not getting a top-tier drummer.
I read this on another forum and thought you guys who are discussing Drover would get a kick out of it:
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Shawn Drover seems to be the backbone for Megadeth in more than just the drum department. One thing that struck me about the ‘Big 4′ shows was how well he stacked up against the founding drummers for Slayer, Anthrax and Metallica. After repeated listening to the ‘Big 4′ live releases and YouTube videos, I now regard him as the most consistent of the incredibly talented and iconic bunch.
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I bought this album on Nov. 1 and I must say I am definitely enjoying quite a bit more than Endgame, even though it hardly packs anything new, surprising or all that different from the last 3 albums.
I mean this with both a sense of happiness and a slight nostalgia. Without a doubt Megadeth has been on a road to redemption since Risk, and arguably the last 4 studio releases have seen Megadeth gradually grow again to a full fledged metal unit - at times thrashy at times more straight out heavy metal.
Th1rt3en does much what the post-Risk albums have done for Megadeth in the last decade, marrying up the past decades of Megadeth - the 80s fast-riff attack and intricate leads with Megadeth's 90s groove and catchy tunes. I guess for Dave this is his comfort zone and I can see why, for if he were to step outside this balance the style and sound would cease to be Megadeth. Even simpler put, Mustaine is focusing on the reference points from the band's catalog that defined Megadeth at its best rather than at its worst and Th1rt3en much like Endgame before it and much like the last decade of Megadeth as a whole has been a sort of revision (rather than the 90s re-imaiging) of Megadeth's sound.
The end result is both pleasing and somewhat disheartening. It depends on your perspective of what made Megadeth good in the past and I guess also when you became a fan of the band. Personally, I became a fan during Megadeth's more experimental period of the mid-90s and for me, Mustaine's different musical escapades and experiments is what gave Megadeth a leading edge over its peers. It was this unpredictable feeling after RIP that made Megadeth for me a prime metal band.
In that regard I find it disheartening that the band has become so predictable by this point. I guess what I said above stands but I can't help but wonder in which other direction Mustaine could steer Megadeth, without taking away the band's identity. I am not wishing for another Risk, rather the spirit of musical adventure the band had at one point.
Th1rt3en is a great album but it lacks the unique stylitic identity that graced the albums from which it draws its influence.
Excellent review.
I jammed this last night on my iPod and it sounded great to me. Like the review above, some thrashy parts, but mostly it's just straight forward heavy metal. I'm not sure what any Megadeth fan would want to complain about.
Public Enemy #1 is a great song. Iam through this one a second time and it is pretty strong.
I certainly get the complaints about Shawn Drover, as he seems so pedestrian behind the kit, and when you're considered a thrash band, I just think the band suffers because of this. Does that mean the guy's a horrible drummer? No, but I don't think he's a great fit for the band. Case in point, during the Big 4 concert in NYC, look at the difference here in Ulrich, Benante, Lombardo, and Drover. Seriously, which guy more or less delivers the most boring performance...
...at about the 5:50 mark Drover steps in behind the kit, then Lombardo, and finally Benante. Also going on during these transitions to different drummers are the different leads being supplied. First is Chris Broderick, then Gary Holt (he switches guitars with Hammett), and then Kirk. Anyways check out a fun performance...
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