Defend an album that get ripped on a lot...

QUEENSRYCHE- Hear In The Now Frontier

Is it Metal? No. Is it dark? No. Is it the band's best album? No.

But is it a bad album? Again, no.

The songwriting is strong, melodic & superbly crafted. The band took some chances on this record, including letting Chris DeGarmo take a turn at lead vocals. This album also has one of the band's best moments ("Spool") and arguably their best B-Side/Bonus Track ever ("Chasing Blue Sky"). Also, vocally, Geoff Tate is fantastic on this album.

Kiss Crazy Nights-

Great, well written AOR album, and the Paul songs are especialy good. Easily my fave non makeup Kiss album.

DenimAndLeather wrote:

Kiss Crazy Nights-

Great, well written AOR album, and the Paul songs are especialy good. Easily my fave non makeup Kiss album.

Agreed....good album. "Reason To Live" is one of KISS' best songs, IMO.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

DenimAndLeather wrote:

Kiss Crazy Nights-

Great, well written AOR album, and the Paul songs are especialy good. Easily my fave non makeup Kiss album.

Agreed....good album. "Reason To Live" is one of KISS' best songs, IMO.

Not a bad album, just not very Kiss-like. It sounded more like Bon Jovi or any number of 80's hair bands. Still, I do like some of it. The title track is fun, and I agree that Reason to Live is a great song.

Flotsam and Jetsam-When the Storm Comes Down
Flat production, but good songs still. Not nearly as great as the first two, but not crap either.

Onslaught-In Search of Sanity
It may not be as brutal as the earlier stuff, but a soild record. Worth having for "Welcome to Dying" alone.

This album to me is a Classic. It should be must

Leviticus - The Strongest Power

Has anyone forgot about these ones?

Petra - Beyond Belief

Black Sabbath - Born Again

ultmetal wrote:

DIO - Dream Evil
A return to form for Dio, in my opinion. "Dream Evil" is much darker and heavier than "Sacred Heart." The songs have better hooks as well. The guitar playing is outstanding and Ronnie is Ronnie! "Sunset Superman," "Night People" and "All the Fools Sailed Away" are all standout cuts on par with anything from "Holy Diver" or "Last in Line".

I love dream Evil. This is the DIO album that I listen the most.

Yeah, Dream Evil is awesome. A top three Dio album. How does it get ripped on a lot?

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

QUEENSRYCHE- Hear In The Now Frontier

Is it Metal? No. Is it dark? No. Is it the band's best album? No.

But is it a bad album? Again, no.

The songwriting is strong, melodic & superbly crafted. The band took some chances on this record, including letting Chris DeGarmo take a turn at lead vocals. This album also has one of the band's best moments ("Spool") and arguably their best B-Side/Bonus Track ever ("Chasing Blue Sky"). Also, vocally, Geoff Tate is fantastic on this album.

Hear in the Now Frontier was my first introduction to Queensrÿche. Needless to say, I took a big step back after listening to it. Took a few more years before I got enough courage to go out and try another album. Luckily it happened with Operation: Mindcrime. I picked it up cheap after endless recommendations, and ended up loving it. But yeah, that Hear in the Now Frontier is bad. Very bad. Or just something I really can't listen to.

powermacho wrote:

This album to me is a Classic. It should be must

Leviticus - The Strongest Power

Has anyone forgot about these ones?

Petra - Beyond Belief

Black Sabbath - Born Again

Black Sabbath - Born Again is outstanding IMO. Yes, the mix is a little unbalanced, but the songs and Gillan's vocals are jaw dropping. This is some of the heaviest stuff Sabbath had ever recorded. Was fortunate enough to catch the band on this tour. Ian Gillan and Sabbath! What a teaming!

Petra - Beyond Belief
I really don't think too many people rag on this album. It's one of the band's most popular and was one of their biggest sellers. It had a ton of CCM hits, as well as a few crossover hits as well. A solid hard rock album.

Leviticus - The Strongest Power
It's not bad, but not my favorite either. It was a step up from I Shall Conquer. Traditional heavy metal with a sound similar to some of the NWOBHM bands.

GUARDIAN - Bottle Rocket

OK, first of all - BITE ME!!! THE LOT OF YOU!!!!

It's NOT Melodic Rock/Hair Band/Blues Rock or whatever Fire & Love, Miracle Mile or even SSS & Buzz are, but what it IS is a strong Pop Rock record with fantastic songwriting and killer choruses. Some of Jamie's best vocal work as well...and Steve Taylor's lyrical input is priceless.

Tourniquet - Crawl to China

Way different from their thrash output, but I've grown to love this album and accept it for what it is, a great eclectic hard rock album with lots of melodic lines to sing along to.

Primus-Antipop

Okay, it's a little ironic that an album titled "Antipop" is a blatant attempt at commercialism, but it's still an awesome album. Very heavy. I've heard people say that this was their attempt at jumping on the nu-metal bandwagon, but I only hear that in the abysmal 'Mama Didn't Raise No Fool'. Other than that awful song, I really like this album. It's still Primus.

Schbopo wrote:

Primus-Antipop

Okay, it's a little ironic that an album titled "Antipop" is a blatant attempt at commercialism, but it's still an awesome album. Very heavy. I've heard people say that this was their attempt at jumping on the nu-metal bandwagon, but I only hear that in one or two songs. It's still Primus.

Great album and anyone who says they were jumping on any sort of band wagon is deaf and dumb.

manny wrote:

Great album and anyone who says they were jumping on any sort of band wagon is deaf and dumb.

Primus built their own wagon.

No Nu-Metal at all on that album. Its Primus being Primus and its my fav from them.

Olafsto wrote:

Whitesnake - Slip of the tongue
I see a lot of fans hating this album. Most saying that Steve Vai ruined it, no blues, no feeling bla bla bla....
I think it`s a great album, lots of killer songs and great playing.
In my top 5 Whitesnake albums.

Definately in my top 5 'Snake albums as well. Good call, Olafsto.

ultmetal wrote:

DIO - Dream Evil
A return to form for Dio, in my opinion. "Dream Evil" is much darker and heavier than "Sacred Heart." The songs have better hooks as well. The guitar playing is outstanding and Ronnie is Ronnie! "Sunset Superman," "Night People" and "All the Fools Sailed Away" are all standout cuts on par with anything from "Holy Diver" or "Last in Line".

I absolutely love that album!!! Great choice, Scott.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

QUEENSRYCHE- Hear In The Now Frontier

Is it Metal? No. Is it dark? No. Is it the band's best album? No.

But is it a bad album? Again, no.

The songwriting is strong, melodic & superbly crafted. The band took some chances on this record, including letting Chris DeGarmo take a turn at lead vocals. This album also has one of the band's best moments ("Spool") and arguably their best B-Side/Bonus Track ever ("Chasing Blue Sky"). Also, vocally, Geoff Tate is fantastic on this album.

Loved it since the day I got it new and has been in regular rotation in my player since.

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GUARDIAN - Bottle Rocket

OK, first of all - BITE ME!!! THE LOT OF YOU!!!!

I was with you on Hear In The Now Frontier. It's not my fave but not as bad as many claim. Bottle Rocket though, well, you can't be right all the time and you really missed the mark here.

Trivium's "the crusade". I read so many negative reviews and accusations of metalcore sound. Last week, i finally decided to pick it up and was positively surprised. It's very good trash metal. But i'm not really interested in checking the band's remaining catalogue.

The first Winger record was one of my first hard rock albums. I thought Reb Beach was amazing on guitar and it was really catchy. Of coarse between Beavis and Butthead and Metallica they were put down all the time.

Scorpions - Humanity: Hour 1

people rip on this album for one reason & one reason only. Desmond Child. however listening to this album, one hears that Desmond is clearly familiar with the Scorps & their style. this album sounds similar to anything else they've released since Blackout. great power ballads, hard rockers, & of course, Klaus. he sounds as amazing as he did 40 years ago. so they wanted a new song writing perspective after 15 albums... big deal. it payed off well in my opinion. what a great album.

Troublezone wrote:

The first Winger record was one of my first hard
rock albums. I thought Reb Beach was amazing on guitar and it was
really catchy. Of coarse between Beavis and Butthead and Metallica they
were put down all the time.

Winger was an easy target back in the day. Say what you will, but I'd take Reb Beach and Rod Morgenstein in my band any day.

NumbskullakaNazgul wrote:

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GUARDIAN - Bottle Rocket

OK, first of all - BITE ME!!! THE LOT OF YOU!!!!

I was with you on Hear In The Now Frontier. It's not my fave but not as bad as many claim. Bottle Rocket though, well, you can't be right all the time and you really missed the mark here.

Thank you, oh all-knowing music sensai.



The album is good...its just 1 - NOT remotely Metal and 2 - EXTREMELY different from all of their prior albums. But, as a stand-alone piece of Pop Rock music, it's very good.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

GUARDIAN - Bottle Rocket

OK, first of all - BITE ME!!! THE LOT OF YOU!!!!

It's NOT Melodic Rock/Hair Band/Blues Rock or whatever Fire & Love, Miracle Mile or even SSS & Buzz are, but what it IS is a strong Pop Rock record with fantastic songwriting and killer choruses. Some of Jamie's best vocal work as well...and Steve Taylor's lyrical input is priceless.

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