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Metal is Forever Number of posts : 7685 Age : 45

Yea I actually copied the audio from that DVD and put it on my ipod because I liked it more.

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Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 3282 Age : 43

13k copies sold in the first week, #36 on Billboard.

Kinda surprised, thought the Metallica hate-fans would've actually turned for this one like they do for every other album they complain about. Congrats to them for finally taking a stand!

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 28670 Age : 39

Wow. #36? Even St. Anger debuted at the top, if I recall correctly, although it did taper off rather quickly due to incredibly negative reviews.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 3282 Age : 43

Yeah, I thought Top 10-15, then it would sink like a rock (like most rock albums do anyway these days).

mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

Metal Misfit wrote:: Yeah, I thought Top 10-15, then it would sink like a rock (like most rock albums do anyway these days).

It is really a Lou Reed album and his albums usually hit the Top 200 and it takes eons for the album to go gold, #36 is pretty good for Lou Reed, usually his albums debut around 60-64, which for Lou Reed is very good.

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sleazeroxx wrote:: The brand new collaboration between Lou Reed and Metallica has been raising eyebrows ever since news first broke that the two were teaming up for a project. Music fans, especially Metallica's legion, had every right to be fretful because the partnership created one of the absolute worst albums I have ever heard.
Just how atrocious is the new album Lulu? Throwing a running chainsaw into a wood chipper would be more harmonious than this debacle. I try and listen to an album at least five times before I even attempt to review it, which allows the music a fair chance to grow on me. However, with Lulu it was one listen (from start to finish) and I was done. My ears were tormented for 87 minutes and could tolerate no more. Luckily, I streamed the entire album on the 'Lulu' website instead of wasting money on an actual copy. I challenge you to do the same since this is an album you have to hear to believe (how awful it is). However, I will completely understand if you do not make it through Lulu -- it's the ultimate exercise in patience.
Backed by chugging, stale riffs courtesy of an uninspired Metallica (who can blame them given the material they were presented with), Reed angrily rants (never once even attempting to sing) like a beatnik reading poetry no one cares about in an empty coffeehouse. His overall delivery sounds like Henry Rollins' grandpa suffering from senility. Just when you start to somewhat fancy Metallica's musicianship, Reed's diatribe-like rambling overtly ruins the song.
In an interview with 'The Guardian' Reed said, "This is as good as my writing gets. I can't do better. I listen to it and my poor heart breaks over some of what's in it." If this is indeed Reed's best work, I flat-out fear his worst. In that same interview Hal Willner, the album's co-producer, explained, "The music is demanding on the listener, no question. I don't know what to call it, but it is not background music." Even Metallica's own producer doesn't understand Lulu, so how on earth did it get green-lighted in the first place?
Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich elaborated, "I'm invigorated at how absolutely awesome the record turned out. Lou walked into the studio and about seven seconds later my head was spinning like Linda Blair in 'The Exorcist'. It was so impulsive it'll take me years to access what happened." And just like she did under Satan's manipulation, Lulu would also trigger Blair to project vomit.
Metallica's James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett were both reportedly brought to tears by Reed's lyrics in the song "Junior Dad." Both claim it emotionally moved them, but I bet the line "the greatest disappointment" suddenly woke them out of their idolization of Reed and they realized they were trapped on a sinking ship, causing them to weep uncontrollably. Though reviews have been unanimously negative (leading Reed to say, "I wouldn't care what a critic said about anything, including a hamburger joint. There is no species of people I have less respect for") I have stumbled across a few people defending Lulu as art. I am sure you have come in contact with the type of person that constantly describes unworthy items as 'art'. One who suffers from this characteristic believes they are functioning at a higher level than the normal person, and therefore see beauty in things our feeble minds fail to understand.
For those ready to accuse me that 'I don't get Lulu,' allow me to clarify what art is. Van Gogh's "Starry Night" is art. "Stairway to Heaven" is art. "Catcher In The Rye" is a work of art. Lulu on the other hand, is a train wreck of epic proportions unworthy of any praise whatsoever. Just because an artist thinks outside the box, doesn't automatically mean their creation is brilliant.
Metallica once blew us away with the song "Damage, Inc.", but now they desperately need some damage control. They should publicly apologize for this calamity, host a bonfire for people who purchased the album, forever ignore Lou Reed (including unfriending him on Facebook) and record a Heavy Metal masterpiece that stands up to their classics Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning. Unfortunately, after years of weakening albums, the Napster incident and now the Lulu experiment, hopes of Metallica returning to true form diminish by the day. This is 'Lu-Lu-Ludicrous'.

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Metal is Forever Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49

People still have faith/hope in METALLICA?

The King Number of posts : 23281 Age : 51

Temple of Blood wrote:: People still have faith/hope in METALLICA?

I did after Death Magenetic. I enjoyed that one.

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Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

exact33 wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:: People still have faith/hope in METALLICA?

I did after Death Magenetic. I enjoyed that one.

Same here. I started losing interest after the Load albums and that crap with the symphony. Then St. Anger came along and really crapped on their legacy. Death Magnetic was certainly a step in the right direction, but it seems as though they're trying to derail the train once again with this Lou Reed album.

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Metal graduate Number of posts : 350 Age : 41

Thanks for posting that Sleaze Roxx review, that was hilarious.

I have a cousin who is so die-hard Metallica it sickens me (he refuses to listen to Megadeth), and even he hates this album. I appreciated that.

Metal master Number of posts : 842 Age : 34

Temple of Blood wrote:: People still have faith/hope in METALLICA?

Are delusional people still in this world? Then there has to be Metallica fans.

mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

Again, I have not heard the entire album but what I have heard I have liked, but then again I am Lou Reed fan and most reviewers sounds like they were excepting this too sound like a Metallica, of course it sounds more Reed's last disc 'The Raven'.

That is not to say that knowing will make you love the album or make you instant Lou Reed fans but I think it should be judged on its own merits, so far the reviews I have read have been more busy bashing Lou Reed then actually taking time to actually give you a well rounded review why they think the album is steaming pile of turd.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

I have a theory - if the album was released just as Lou Reed and no one knew that it was Metallica as his backing band the reviews would be praising Lou for trying a different musical approach.

King Of Kaiju Number of posts : 30892 Age : 64

Tur-Thalion wrote:: Thanks for posting that Sleaze Roxx review, that was hilarious.

I have a cousin who is so die-hard Metallica it sickens me (he refuses to listen to Megadeth), and even he hates this album. I appreciated that.

The sad thing is sleazeroxx tends to be more lenient on established bands.

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Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 3282 Age : 43

exact33 wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:: People still have faith/hope in METALLICA?

I did after Death Magenetic. I enjoyed that one.

Me too. Looking forward to the follow-up (which is supposedly being worked on right now).

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 19356 Age : 53

I'm still looking forward to the Gordon Lightfoot/Slayer project.

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Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

Tur-Thalion wrote:

That track works better live than on the album

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

thejokeriv wrote:: I have a theory - if the album was released just as Lou Reed and no one knew that it was Metallica as his backing band the reviews would be praising Lou for trying a different musical approach.

I forget where I read it, but a reviewer had the same idea. Keep it hush-hush about Metallica's involvement and just release it as a new Lou Reed album. Then let word-of-mouth spread around that the "mysterious backing band" is actually Metallica. His theory is that it wouldn't have built up so much negative publicity before a single note was heard.

An interesting theory, but it's obviously too late for that. The damage has been done. The only redeeming quality that I can see coming from this train-wreck is that Metallica next 'real' album will have to be something outstanding to wash the bad taste out of the fans mouth, much like the Death Magnetic follow-up to the St. Anger debacle.

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Metal is Forever Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49

If it was only a new Lou Reed album, it would've sold 1/3 of what it has so there was no way the label was going to go for that.

mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

Temple of Blood wrote:: If it was only a new Lou Reed album, it would've sold 1/3 of what it has so there was no way the label was going to go for that.

Lou Reed has been signed to a major label since 1967, and his albums and tours do ok on their own.

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

Temple of Blood wrote:: If it was only a new Lou Reed album, it would've sold 1/3 of what it has so there was no way the label was going to go for that.

Right, it's an interesting theory, but no way was any label gonna let a big name like Metallica go without the proper publicity. Lou Reed on his own wouldn't get a 10th of the promotion he's getting with Metallica's named attached to it. It woulda got a write-up in Rolling Stone, maybe a mention or 2 in a coupla other publications and then faded back into the underground with little fan-fare.

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mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:: If it was only a new Lou Reed album, it would've sold 1/3 of what it has so there was no way the label was going to go for that.

Right, it's an interesting theory, but no way was any label gonna let a big name like Metallica go without the proper publicity. Lou Reed on his own wouldn't get a 10th of the promotion he's getting with Metallica's named attached to it. It woulda got a write-up in Rolling Stone, maybe a mention or 2 in a coupla other publications and then faded back into the underground with little fan-fare.

Very true, his albums are slow steady sellers, they sell enough not to go out of print, but it is not going to burst into huge numbers like say the black album by Metallica. BTW this isn't Lou Reed's only time has worked with other artist, in the early 70's David Bowie produced an album for him, 'Transformer' and the mid 70's Bruce Springsteen worked with Lou Reed on the 'Street Hassell' , for a song or two. Also Lou Reed worked with KISS to co write a couple of tracks on 'The Music from the Elder' album.

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

The 70's were a more forgiving time. Everyone was too coked-up and wearing polyester to notice. :flower:

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mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

MetalGuy71 wrote:: The 70's were a more forgiving time. Everyone was too coked-up and wearing polyester to notice. :flower:

Well it helped that Lou Reed was not basing the material on his albums on obsure German operas

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