Danzig

manny wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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the whole "look how evil I can be" thing is super-lame

He's never been "evil" or tried to be. Being into "dark" subjects or imagery doesn't mean someone thinks they are evil. If Danzig has a major fault it is that he thinks more of himself than he should. I find someone blatently ripping off another's style for profit much more of a negative than someone being original with a dark image.

I disagree spec, Danzig goes out of his way to represent evil. Look at his lyrics and his songtitles. It's way more than being into a "dark subject". Alice in Chains fits more into the Dark Subject catagory, Danzig goes beyond that imo. Whether he ultimately does it for shock or not, in his mind the idea of evil is cool. That being said i admit that i enjoy his music for the most part.

I have to go with Spec on this one TZ, maybe some of the album imaginary is more on demonic imagery, but lyrically I look him more in goth mind set than I love Satan. Dark subjects not as realistic as Alice In Chains but more in the fantasy and goth mold.

I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one.

Troublezone wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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the whole "look how evil I can be" thing is super-lame

He's never been "evil" or tried to be. Being into "dark" subjects or imagery doesn't mean someone thinks they are evil. If Danzig has a major fault it is that he thinks more of himself than he should. I find someone blatently ripping off another's style for profit much more of a negative than someone being original with a dark image.

I disagree spec, Danzig goes out of his way to represent evil. Look at his lyrics and his songtitles. It's way more than being into a "dark subject". Alice in Chains fits more into the Dark Subject catagory, Danzig goes beyond that imo. Whether he ultimately does it for shock or not, in his mind the idea of evil is cool. That being said i admit that i enjoy his music for the most part.

But evil Is a necessary.I am evil.Look at diamond head Am I evil WAY EVIL Lyrics.lets compare.

I got something to say I killed your baby to day(misfits but it was danzig era.)

now diamond head

27 ever one was nice see they're bodies out on the ice.

just as bad.Death is needed for some of us who find it alright.I'm not in to nerco stuff but I don't fear death any more after my father died and well this music also helped.

I'm not goth at all.

Am I Evil? wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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the whole "look how evil I can be" thing is super-lame

He's never been "evil" or tried to be. Being into "dark" subjects or imagery doesn't mean someone thinks they are evil. If Danzig has a major fault it is that he thinks more of himself than he should. I find someone blatently ripping off another's style for profit much more of a negative than someone being original with a dark image.

I disagree spec, Danzig goes out of his way to represent evil. Look at his lyrics and his songtitles. It's way more than being into a "dark subject". Alice in Chains fits more into the Dark Subject catagory, Danzig goes beyond that imo. Whether he ultimately does it for shock or not, in his mind the idea of evil is cool. That being said i admit that i enjoy his music for the most part.

But evil Is a necessary.I am evil.Look at diamond head Am I evil WAY EVIL Lyrics.lets compare.

I got something to say I killed your baby to day(misfits but it was danzig era.)

now diamond head

27 ever one was nice see they're bodies out on the ice.

just as bad.Death is needed for some of us who find it alright.I'm not in to nerco stuff but I don't fear death any more after my father died and well this music also helped.

I'm not goth at all.

I wasn't talking about death, i meant in a disrespecting God sense.

Troublezone wrote:

I wasn't talking about death, i meant in a disrespecting God sense.

And that's evil?

Schbopo wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I wasn't talking about death, i meant in a disrespecting God sense.

And that's evil?

I wouldn't expect you to understand something considered sacred. But i did have a feeling you'd give your 2 cents once this topic began to pick up...

If someone takes Danzig seriously enough to consider him "evil", I think they're giving him too much credit. He's a cartoon character...a rather talented one...but a cartoon nonetheless. He wants to be a cross between Elvis and Wolverine, that's just so "evil".

detuned wrote:

If someone takes Danzig seriously enough to consider him "evil", I think they're giving him too much credit. He's a cartoon character...a rather talented one...but a cartoon nonetheless. He wants to be a cross between Elvis and Wolverine, that's just so "evil".

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

"Impressionable young kids" don't listen to Danzig anymore, if they ever did in the first place. His fan base these days is old guys like me and 40-something former Goth chicks.

I'm sure many here have seen this one before but it still makes me chuckle.

Here's Glenn talking about his book collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weNO9k1TXS0

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

"Impressionable young kids" don't listen to Danzig anymore, if they ever did in the first place. His fan base these days is old guys like me and 40-something former Goth chicks.

ahhhh.Im NOO were near old.I love danzig.I'm catholic and I don't mind danzig it's just music.Plus kids don't believe in god now adays much any way.

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

I doubt anyone has ever murdered their mother in the name of Danzig.

Schbopo wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

I doubt anyone has ever murdered their mother in the name of Danzig.

QFT!I dont think any one has killed a baby or raped any one

Am I Evil? wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

"Impressionable young kids" don't listen to Danzig anymore, if they ever did in the first place. His fan base these days is old guys like me and 40-something former Goth chicks.

ahhhh.Im NOO were near old.I love danzig.I'm catholic and I don't mind danzig it's just music.Plus kids don't believe in god now adays much any way.

Danzig himself was raised as Catholic and says he has no problems with religion and that him and his parents get along well. It's all just a gimick nothing else.

Schbopo wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

I doubt anyone has ever murdered their mother in the name of Danzig.

Have no use for this band, in fact when they opened for Sabbath in 92 I came late so I didn't have to listen to that garbage!

candlemass wrote:

Have no use for this band, in fact when they opened for Sabbath in 92 I came late so I didn't have to listen to that garbage!

But, how do you really feel about them?

I actually like Samhain the most out of all the stuff he's done. His comic company is a joke though.

Some kid told me his high school football team used to sit naked in the dark and sing "mother" before every football game. I think that sums Glenn up quite nicely.

DallasBlack wrote:

Am I Evil? wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

I don't mean evil like Hitler or a killer but the messages he sends. It doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not to minds that are impressionable like young kids. Whatever though i'm sure there are some that understand what i'm trying to say.

"Impressionable young kids" don't listen to Danzig anymore, if they ever did in the first place. His fan base these days is old guys like me and 40-something former Goth chicks.

ahhhh.Im NOO were near old.I love danzig.I'm catholic and I don't mind danzig it's just music.Plus kids don't believe in god now adays much any way.

Danzig himself was raised as Catholic and says he has no problems with religion and that him and his parents get along well. It's all just a gimick nothing else.

Catholic people always rock.

Virginia wrote:

Some kid told me his high school football team used to sit naked in the dark and sing "mother" before every football game. I think that sums Glenn up quite nicely.

That's awesome.

Since we're discussing Glenn & his evil powers, I'll share this little nugget of info.

My first exposure to the band Danzig was a cassette tape of their debut album. It was given to me by a guy I went to college with. One dark and stormy night, he was driving home, listening to this tape and got into an accident. Nothing major, just swerved offf the road or something. I don't remember the specifics. Anyway, he gave me the tape, saying it was evil and caused him to have the accident and he didn't want it near him again. I gladly accepted it. True story.

16+ years later and as far as I can tell, I have thus far been immune to it's evil powers.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Since we're discussing Glenn & his evil powers, I'll share this little nugget of info.

My first exposure to the band Danzig was a cassette tape of their debut album. It was given to me by a guy I went to college with. One dark and stormy night, he was driving home, listening to this tape and got into an accident. Nothing major, just swerved offf the road or something. I don't remember the specifics. Anyway, he gave me the tape, saying it was evil and caused him to have the accident and he didn't want it near him again. I gladly accepted it. True story.

16+ years later and as far as I can tell, I have thus far been immune to it's evil powers.

Satin much?that is funny.music doesn't do anything really.

Am I Evil? wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Since we're discussing Glenn & his evil powers, I'll share this little nugget of info.

My first exposure to the band Danzig was a cassette tape of their debut album. It was given to me by a guy I went to college with. One dark and stormy night, he was driving home, listening to this tape and got into an accident. Nothing major, just swerved offf the road or something. I don't remember the specifics. Anyway, he gave me the tape, saying it was evil and caused him to have the accident and he didn't want it near him again. I gladly accepted it. True story.

16+ years later and as far as I can tell, I have thus far been immune to it's evil powers.

Satin much?that is funny.music doesn't do anything really.

I think at the time, he was dating (eventually marrying, then divorcing) a girl who was very, very religious, which may in turn, had something to do with his suddden aversion to dark/evil music. I still have contact with him, through e-mails mostly. He's a pretty good guy that introduced me to lots and lots of new music & artists in my college days. So I'll always be grateful for that.

Always hated Danzig...he sounds like a Vegas Elvis impersonator singing Rock...more comical than scary.

With all this Danzig discussion, I went digging around at our old friend Wikipedia and saw this little bit o'trivia...

James Hetfield, singer and guitarist of Metallica, sang the background vocals^{[citation needed]} on "Twist of Cain" and "Possession", although was uncredited for contractual reasons.

Never heard that one before. Anyone know that to be factual or is someone making this up?

MetalGuy71 wrote:

With all this Danzig discussion, I went digging around at our old friend Wikipedia and saw this little bit o'trivia...

James Hetfield, singer and guitarist of Metallica, sang the background vocals^{[citation needed]} on "Twist of Cain" and "Possession", although was uncredited for contractual reasons.

Never heard that one before. Anyone know that to be factual or is someone making this up?

I didn't know that about the song "Possession", but he definitely is on background vocals for "Twist of Cain". James has always gone with the uncredited direction. He was also uncredited for "Man or Ash" on Corrosion of Conformity's "Wise Blood".