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Lari wrote:
Biden's road to victory is clear now. Pennsylvania won't even matter.

If that is the case? Congratulations to Biden and it will p off Hilary that she won't be the first woman President cause Harris will soon have that honor (IMHO)

Yep! I see that coming too.

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Troublezone wrote:
It’s funny how Pennsylvania, a state that the Dems so badly need is having such difficulties with their counting. While most other states including California which has a much bigger population have finished their tallies. How convenient...



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PA has been like that since I was a kid growing up in Emmaus, PA (now who here has ever heard of that little town?). The big cities have always been noted for "shenanigans" surrounding elections.

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007 wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
It’s funny how Pennsylvania, a state that the Dems so badly need is having such difficulties with their counting. While most other states including California which has a much bigger population have finished their tallies. How convenient...



I'm proud of my home state! Embarassed

Pennsylvania is a great state that is very beautiful in the rural areas during the fall. Unfortunately most people that vote Biden don’t realize (or maybe they do) that they are actually voting for Kamala for president. Joe is senile and an empty shell. I just saw him walking on and off stage yesterday like a person from a nursing home.
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There was a recent poll that said 51% of Dem voters didn’t vote for Biden because they want him as their president. They just simply hate Trump.
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Why won’t the vote counters allow anyone to observe their counting? It’s because they are breaking the law. Lawsuits are underway. This is just like when Iran refused to let watchdogs observe their uranium enrichment.
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tohostudios wrote:
James B. wrote:
Lari wrote:
Biden's road to victory is clear now. Pennsylvania won't even matter.

If that is the case? Congratulations to Biden and it will p off Hilary that she won't be the first woman President cause Harris will soon have that honor (IMHO)

Yep!  I see that coming too.  

Oh yeah, that’s been their plan all along. They’ll deem Biden unfit and Harris takes over. Pelosi’s push for the 25th amendment wasn’t for Trump it was for Biden.
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Thrasher73 wrote:
tohostudios wrote:
James B. wrote:
Lari wrote:
Biden's road to victory is clear now. Pennsylvania won't even matter.

If that is the case? Congratulations to Biden and it will p off Hilary that she won't be the first woman President cause Harris will soon have that honor (IMHO)

Yep!  I see that coming too.  

Oh yeah, that’s been their plan all along. They’ll deem Biden unfit and Harris takes over. Pelosi’s push for the 25th amendment wasn’t for Trump it was for Biden.

Constitutional patriots will go apeshit. Some people are willing to shed blood for freedom!
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I know there is voter fraud going on here. Trump losing Arizona is crazy to me. I'm a truck driver and drive all over southern AZ, and everywhere I go it's nothing but Trump signs. Houses, businesses, cars, trucks, everywhere you go has trump signs. I've seen very very few Biden supporters here. You can believe what you want, but you will never convince me that Biden won Arizona legitimately. This is a fucking disgrace and a sham. The America I grew up in is dead.
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Wrecked Neck wrote:
I know there is voter fraud going on here. Trump losing Arizona is crazy to me. I'm a truck driver and drive all over southern AZ, and everywhere I go it's nothing but Trump signs. Houses, businesses, cars, trucks, everywhere you go has trump signs. I've seen very very few Biden supporters here. You can believe what you want, but you will never convince me that Biden won Arizona legitimately. This is a fucking disgrace and a sham. The America I grew up in is dead.

Can you believe that they are saying old senile Biden has the most votes in American history? Even more than their favorite, Obama! No one likes Biden. It’s impossible! It’s definitely voter fraud. The disgraceful biased media also helped him.
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Troublezone wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
I know there is voter fraud going on here. Trump losing Arizona is crazy to me. I'm a truck driver and drive all over southern AZ, and everywhere I go it's nothing but Trump signs. Houses, businesses, cars, trucks, everywhere you go has trump signs. I've seen very very few Biden supporters here. You can believe what you want, but you will never convince me that Biden won Arizona legitimately. This is a fucking disgrace and a sham. The America I grew up in is dead.

Can you believe that they are saying old senile Biden has the most votes in American history? Even more than their favorite, Obama! No one likes Biden. It’s impossible! It’s definitely voter fraud. The disgraceful biased media also helped him.
I don't believe a single solitary thing any of those cocksmokers say. It's a coup, and our forefathers are rolling over in their fucking graves right now.
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600,000 votes left uncounted in Arizona and Trump only needs 14K to win.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/04/watch-voters-protest-outside-arizona-election-office-count-those-votes/
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The Dems and their ATM daddy’s are so arrogant that they thought they would win the election without a hitch with their covid fear campaign, but Trump did amazingly well despite getting slandered with bad press everyday, so they had to resort to desperate measures (fraud). This isn’t going to sit well either way...

To think so many people died in wars to protect our freedom and constitution and these political bootlickers disrespect them!
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As far as I'm concerned, both parties can eat a massive bag of dicks. Very Happy

That being said, EVERY first-world country KNOWS mail-in voting is OPEN SEASON for fraud. Democrats like Jerry Nadler are on VIDEO talking about how corrupt mail-in voting is. That politicians WANT to use mail-in voting, to me, says they FULLY intend to cheat.

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As far as I'm concerned, both parties can eat a massive bag of dicks.   Very Happy

That being said, EVERY first-world country KNOWS mail-in voting is OPEN SEASON for fraud.  Democrats like Jerry Nadler are on VIDEO talking about how corrupt mail-in voting is.  That politicians WANT to use mail-in voting, to me, says they FULLY intend to cheat.

Agreed. Mail-in voting is also lazy bullshit. In the past when everyone did it in person, it went a lot more smoothly. Only the elderly or disabled people should send mail-in ballots.

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You're seriously sitting there and accusing the democrats of voter fraud? Christ Almighty.

Who tried dismantling the post office as much as possible? Republicans.

What states ruled that votes received after election day, regardless of postmark, should not be counted? Not counting votes, the sheer definition of voter fraud.

Who stole the election in 2000?

Who's going around telling people to stop counting votes (!!), because their party seems to be leading at some arbitrary point? (everything is skewed, since a lot of states count mail-in ballots last).

People can vote however they like. A lot of people chose to vote by mail because of the current pandemic. What about the people serving overseas? A lot of those ballots may arrive late, which in some cases, means their votes won't count.

Mail-in voting is fully legitimate, and Trump just hates on it, because he knows the majority of mail-in ballots will be in favor of democrats. The fact remains that there is absolutely NO evidence that mail-in voting increases the likelihood of fraud. That is pure right-wing propaganda and wishful thinking on their part.

Who shut down the majority of areas one could cast their vote (literally from dozens to a single or two areas), in an obvious attempt at voter suppression?

And please, please stop trying to portray Biden as cognitively incompetent, if you at the same time support Trump.
For a comparative sample of each candidate's eloquence, watch each of their respective 60 minutes interviews. Trump has the vocabulary and argumentative prowess of a child and has no substance what-so-ever. The baby even walked out of the damn interview because the interviewer actually asked him real, substantive questions (or "tough", if you set the bar that low) - it takes very little to beat that, and the fact that Biden could speak cohesively, without ridiculous repetitions and actually lay out some form of policy strategy was enough to blow Trump out of the water. The fact that this is even a discussion is ludicrous.  

I'm not saying there isn't any merit in having concern for Biden's mental state, but it's wholly disingenuous to focus on him and avoid the giant, orange elephant in the room that is Donald Trump.

Yes, the Democrats are completely feckless and controlled by donor money. They almost lost to Trump TWICE, for Christ's sake. That's not to Trump's credit though, it purely shows how utterly useless the Democrats are. It looks like the Republicans will retain control of the senate, which unfortunately means that virtually no progress will be made in at least the next two years - only trump roll-backs, which is merely compulsory damage control.

There's plenty of criticism that the Democrats are due, but don't for a second think the Republicans are better - they're much worse.

I struggle to even see your country as a legitimate democracy, seeing as some of the things going on during elections is stuff you otherwise only see in de-facto dictatorships in, say, central Asia, Belarus, etc.

Wrecked Neck, believe what you want as well - however, your anecdotal evidence doesn't really say much. You really think Trump cares about democracy? His attitude/stance is antithetical to its very principals.

Very sad, indeed.


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I thought that the media was reporting Biden took Arizona? Maybe I misunderstood.
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007 wrote:
I thought that the media was reporting Biden took Arizona? Maybe I misunderstood.

Fox News did. But they called it too soon.
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You're seriously sitting there and accusing the democrats of voter fraud? Christ Almighty.

Who tried dismantling the post office as much as possible? Republicans.

What states ruled that votes received after election day, regardless of postmark, should not be counted? Not counting votes, the sheer definition of voter fraud.

Who stole the election in 2000?

Who's going around telling people to stop counting votes (!!), because their party seems to be leading at some arbitrary point? (everything is skewed, since a lot of states count mail-in ballots last).

People can vote however they like. A lot of people chose to vote by mail because of the current pandemic. What about the people serving overseas? A lot of those ballots may arrive late, which in some cases, mean their votes won't count.

Mail-in voting is fully legitimate, and Trump just hates on it, because he knows the majority of mail-in ballots will be in favor of democrats. The fact remains that there is absolutely NO evidence that mail-in voting increases the likelihood of fraud. That is pure right-wing propaganda and wishful thinking on their part.

Who shut down the majority of areas one could cast their vote (literally from dozens to a single or two areas), in an obvious attempt at voter suppression?

And please, please stop trying to portray Biden as cognitively incompetent, if you at the same time support Trump.
For a comparative sample of each candidate's eloquence, watch each of their respective 60 minutes interviews. Trump has the vocabulary and argumentative prowess of a child and has no substance what-so-ever. The baby even walked out of the damn interview because the interviewer actually asked him real, substantive questions (or "tough", if you set the bar that low) - it takes very little to beat that, and the fact that Biden could speak cohesively, without ridiculous repetitions and actually lay out some form of policy strategy was enough to blow Trump out of the water. The fact that this is even a discussion is ludicrous.  

I'm not saying there isn't any merit in having concern for Biden's mental state, but it's wholly disingenuous to focus on him and avoid the giant, orange elephant in the room that is Donald Trump.

Yes, the Democrats are completely feckless and controlled by donor money. They almost lost to Trump TWICE, for Christ's sake. That's not to Trump's credit though, it purely shows how utterly useless the Democrats are. It looks like the Republicans will retain control of the senate, which unfortunately means that virtually no progress will be made in the next four years - only trump roll-backs, which is merely compulsory damage control.

There's plenty of criticism that the Democrats are due, but don't for a second think the Republicans are better - they're much worse.

I struggle to even see your country as a legitimate democracy, seeing as some of the things going on during elections is stuff you otherwise only see in de-facto dictatorships in, say, central Asia, Belarus, etc.

Very sad, indeed.


How is it that you cannot understand that mail-in votes are extremely easy and vulnerable to manipulation and fraud? You are so fucking trusting as long as your desired endgame is in sight. If the tables were turned you can bet the Dems would be raising hell and using their media allies to drum up some major outrage and everything would come to a grinding halt. But that’s only for them. Full speed ahead no matter what to win (even if it means deception). The Dems had said they would stop counting last night, but instead drove a bunch of vans loaded with ballots in the middle of the night and mysteriously gained a lead over Trumps previously very large margin despite more than 80% of the counting already complete. How convenient...

Do you also really believe that Biden would get the most votes in the history of American elections without a fraudulent boost? The guy isn’t popular like Obama was and his campaigning was very poorly received on his trail. Even with spaced out seating, half the seats were empty. No one likes the guy! He wasn’t even the preferred choice for nomination. Bernie Sanders was. Yet here he is with these mysterious record breaking numbers. Of coarse everything I say to you falls on deaf ears because you just want anyone but Trump and that’s that.

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In addition...

I find it hilarious that you think Biden is a better speaker than Trump. The guy talks like a loud drunkard and says the most off the wall crazy shit. Look up his gaffes on YouTube (there’s a lot). And I will talk about his mental state because it is painfully obvious. He also has been on record saying racist shit and he attended a funeral of a legit member of the KKK (his close friend). Nothing but praise...

Do you support racism? Maybe if it’s from someone other than xenophobic Trump right? Why don’t you dig up some dirt on the Dems for a change. Then justify them like you always do.

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Wisconsin postal worker on record saying his supervisor was having subordinates post Mark ballots received on Wednesday, Nov. 4th as Nov 3rd.

7 Wards in Milwaukee had thousands of votes more counted than were registered voters.

Wisconsin had 90 % voter turnout

Maricopa County poll workers gave registered Republican s sharpies.

Poll workers in Pennsylvania were wearing Biden/Harris campaign stuff and not allowing observers close proximity to do their jobs

Multiple videos of thousands of ballots arriving at 4 am/5am in multiple states

Video of poll workers in Detroit covering windows so you couldn't see what they were doing at the absentee ballot counting location.

Poll workers on record saying ballots without names and signatures which are to be put aside were counted

This is just the begining, once postal workers and polling staff find out jail is in their future... They are gonna turn and point fingers.

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Where the hell are you getting this from?

I don't take anything coming from Breitbart seriously. Nor should anyone.

If you seriously think Trump is a good speaker, you are in serious denial. The guy has said the dumbest things in the history of modern American politics, by far.

I simply don't agree with your "if the tables were turned" scenario. The Democrats are born losers and donor/republican suck-ups. Your anger and mistrust comes off as nothing but pure projection to me.
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Biden has this "record-breaking" amount of votes simply because voter turnout is so high this time around. He has only Trump and his incompetent government/campaign to thank for that. Had it not been for their handling (or lack thereof) of the Covid-19 pandemic, Biden would have been in serious trouble. Which is incredibly, and frustratingly sad.

You don't have to be registered to any party nor a "likely voter" to vote. That's why the polls have been forced to adjust, as far more people are coming out to vote this year, simply because of how bad the current administration is.

Anything and everything coming from the Trump campaign is pure bullshit. At the very least, incredibly misleading. Just now, Rudi Giuliani gave his ridiculous speech about this election being "the most un-democratic election ever" or something like that - did he provide any evidence? Of course not - they never, ever do, because it doesn't exist.


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