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James B.
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Troublezone wrote:
When Nixon took us off the gold standard was also a major mistake for the monetary system. Printing a bunch of paper money that has nothing substantial to back it up. Now they claim we have a coin shortage.

That was the beginning of the bankers being given the power. All the countries bombed out during WW2 had regained manufacturing capabilities and the USA didn't have the monopoly, and USA banks were no longer making big money on loans to those foreign borrowers. We elect people to Congress, the Senate, and a President/VP, but the appointment to run the Federal Reserve has the real power. Research it, I was amazed.

IMHO, the coin shortage is a ploy to get the poor to have even less They occasionally manipulate silver & good prices so the poor well off. Also if a bank has possession of $ electronically for even a half a second, they profit from it. Imagine money saved from not having to move it from business to bank on weekly basis. Imagine the government using the resources making & destroying hard currency for the benefit of themselves? Imagine how much easy it would be to control a population with no hard currency? Just think of the worth of the info/data gleaned when you use your phone to buy everything, I can see the news headline... "The manufacturing of hard currency contributes to climate change" and boom Laughing very hard

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What I find funniest of all is the fact that you somehow think Trump is the antithesis to corruption, incompetence, greed, arrogance and whatever else you see to be flawed about your government.

The GOP cares only about power and has absolutely no morals or integrity - just see how they're treating the issue of appointing a new SCOTUS - back in 2016, it was all about "letting the people decide" and not having a new appointed until after the election. Now, oh, golly gee, they're saying the exact opposite. Pathetic. Not that the Democrats are much better, they're mostly Republican light.

I can't conflate whatever valid points you and Troublezone may have with the candidate you support. They're aversive to each other, completely irreconcilable. The idea that Trump has "got more done than any other president" is ludicrous. What exactly has he done? Other than handing out some executive orders, completely failing on building a useless and ridiculous wall (not to mention using emergency relief funds, among other shady things), detaining and destroying migrant families, letting children die in custody and screwed over farmers with his trade war, what exactly has he done? Where are all those coal-mining jobs he promised? The fact that a person can speak with such a lack of eloquence and so vaguely, with no evidence or comprehensive analysis to back any of it up, and still win people's support, is mindboggling to me. There's no excuse now, one can't claim ignorance at this point. If you still support this clown who doesn't believe in democracy, well, you're either in denial, misinformed or deeply un-American. Potentially all three.

Yeah, unemployment is at a low, but how is that his doing? Plus, it's very misleading, as many of those jobs are part-time, and it still doesn't address the fact that millions of Americans can't make ends meet even with two full-time jobs. None of the perceived positives about the economy is in any way due to Trump's (in)actions. The stock market means jack shit to the American people, it doesn't reflect the quality of life of the population at all.
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Well in case you haven’t noticed, 2016 was not nearly as chaotic as the current state of affairs. There was still a resemblance of normalcy in Washington. But now with the suspiciously false flag blame being put on Trump for the elaborately planned (China lab created) pandemic and the nonstop media fueled and cherry picked police related deaths that set the stage for civil rights protests and riots (conveniently during election year), it’s like a perfect storm of orchestrated deception directed at the guy you think is the only bad guy. You really think Trump is worse than the “powers that be”? Believe me, I know Trump has lots of flaws, but the Democrats are actually the ones that have done more damage to this country. They keep the broken welfare system going that discourages minorities from bettering their lives. Just keep them down and poor. Only those who are truly focused and driven escape. Imo , both political parties are terribly flawed. I’m against the two party system! I think of myself as an Independent.


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C’mon man!

It takes no genius to know that if you google Trump accomplishments, you will get an avalanche of negative info about “promises not kept, or abandoned”, from the dominant left wing media. But somewhere in the shitstorm of negativity, you will find the list of accomplishments that the media has kept away from the average citizens.


These are accomplishments made so far in 2020... his previous three years not included.



The Department of Veterans Affairs announced that 42 states and one U.S. territory signed the PREVENTS state proclamation pledging to prioritize suicide prevention for Veterans and all citizens.
09.11.20
President Trump announced that Bahrain struck a deal to normalize relations with Israel, further reshaping alliances in the Middle East.
09.11.20
The Trump administration issued guidance to allow state-licensed pharmacists to order and administer COVID-19 vaccines expanding convenient access to Americans.
09.09.20
President Trump signed an executive order to ban oil drilling off the coasts of Florida, Georgia and South Carolina, safeguarding the State’s shores and protecting critical jobs.
09.08.20
Job growth marked the 4th largest gain in American history, 2.5 times better than any month under the Obama-Biden administration.
09.04.20
The Administration announced the first comprehensive cybersecurity policy for systems used in outer space and near space, enhancing the nation’s cyber defenses in space.
09.04.20
President Trump announced that Serbia and Kosovo have committed to economic normalization due to the Administration’s action.
09.04.20
The Trump administration awarded $10 million to Copan Industries Inc, to expand the domestic production capacity of flock tip swabs to 14.4 million per month in support of COVID-19 testing.
09.02.20
The Trump Administration announced foreclosure protection for displaced families and those affected by Hurricane Laura.
09.01.20
The Trump Administration announced the award of nearly $72 million in support of carbon capture technologies.
09.01.20
The United Arab Emirates formally abolished its 40-year boycott of Israel law, allowing UAE companies and individuals to trade directly with Israel.
08.31.20
The Trump Administration extended the summer free meal program through the end of December, ensuring that all children have access to nutritious food as the U.S. recovers from the pandemic.
08.31.20
The Trump Administration announced the OneRD Guarantee Loan Initiative to encourage private investments in rural communities across the United States.
08.31.20
The Trump administration announced that the Military Spouse Employment Partnership rose by more than 22%, with 175,000 military spouses securing jobs through the program.
08.27.20
The Administration awarded a $760 million contract to Abbott for delivery of 150 million rapid tests in the United States and potentially deploy testing to schools and other populations.
08.27.20
The Administration announced an additional $1 billion for the Farmers to Families Food Box program to help farmers, distributors, and American families from the impacts from the coronavirus.
08.25.20
President Trump signed an executive order to revitalize communities and invest federal resources in distressed areas, including opportunity zones which will save taxpayer dollars.
08.25.20
The Trump administration announced the release of 1.5 million N95 respirators to 3,336 nursing home facilities, and the distribution of about $2.5 billion to increase testing, staffing, and PPE.
08.25.20
The Trump administration announced that the USDA is investing $46 million to improve critical community facilities to benefit 363,000 rural residents.
08.24.20
The Trump administration provided $15 million in funding opportunities to support socially disadvantaged veteran farmers and ranchers in an effort to help them successfully own and operate farms.
08.21.20
The Trump administration announced the use of the Defense Production Act to apply priority rate order for contracts with Becton Dickinson and Quidel Corporation.
08.20.20
Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, announced a new grant program that will assist higher education emerge from the coronavirus pandemic and provide expanded educational opportunities for students.
08.19.20
The Trump administration announced their partnership with OnStar’s emergency services to improve access to current suicide prevention resources for Veterans.
08.17.20
The Trump administration entered a $750,000 agreement with Plasma Technologies, LLC, to develop and optimize a process to produce higher yielding anti-COVID-19 immune serum for manufacturing.
08.17.20
The Trump administration announced that they will be distributing $1.4 billion in relief funds to certain children’s hospitals to assist with the coronavirus impact.
08.14.20
The Trump administration announced that the McKesson Corporation will be a central distributor for the future COVID-19 vaccines and related supplies needed to administer the vaccine.
08.14.20
Due to the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, the fatality rate for Americans over the age of 70 has declined by about 85%.
08.13.20
President Trump announced that Israel and the United Arab Emirates will fully normalize their diplomatic relations as part of a historic deal called the Abraham Accord, led by Trump’s Administration.
08.13.20
The Trump administration announced a $371 million investment to improve rural electric infrastructure across 11 states.
08.13.20
President Trump signed four executive orders to provide coronavirus relief including $400-per-week to out-of-work Americans, student loan relief, and eviction protection for renters and homeowners.
08.08.20
The Trump administration has awarded more than $400 million in grants to end Veteran homelessness.
08.07.20
President Trump signed an executive order increasing American Production for essential medical supplies and reducing the U.S. reliance on foreign producers of medicines.
08.06.20
President Trump signed an executive order expanding access to telehealth services in order to ensure rural Americans access to healthcare.
08.03.20
President Trump signed an executive order to prevent Americans from being displaced by foreign workers and offshore labor by using federal action to put American workers first.
08.03.20
The Department of Homeland Security announced an extension of its partnership with national pharmacy and grocery retail chains to continue to provide access to COVID-19 testing.
07.30.20
The Trump Administration announced that the Department of Veteran Affairs has successfully reduced prescription opioid use in patients within the VA health care system by 64%.
07.30.20
President Trump announced that export authorizations for liquefied natural will go through 2050 and signed four permits for pipeline and rail transport of fossil fuels.
07.29.20
The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy released its 2020 Drug-Free Communities report finding that the Trump administration’s Drug-Free Communities Program lowered youth substance use.
07.27.20
President Trump signed four executive orders to ensure that Americans are receiving the lowest price possible for their prescription drugs.
07.24.20
The Department of Defense awarded a $4.9 million contract to Pall Corporation to increase industrial base expansion for medical ventilator components.
07.23.20
The Trump administration’s agreement with U.S. based Pfizer will produce 100 million doses of a coronavirus vaccine, and once developed, the government can acquire an additional 500 million doses.
07.22.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced it will distribute $10 billion in a second round of high impact COVID-19 area funding to hospitals.
07.17.20
The Environmental Protection Agency finalized 64 deregulatory actions, saving around $94 billion while combined emissions of criteria pollutants and their precursors dropped 7% under President Trump.
07.16.20
The Trump administration announced it has saved $90 billion in regulatory costs to the economy and consumers.
07.16.20
The Administration allocated $400 million in coronavirus funding to enhance the VA’s emergency relief response for homeless Veterans or those at risk of homelessness during the coronavirus pandemic.
07.16.20
The Administration announced an initiative to distribute faster COVID-19 testing to nursing homes in hotspots in the United States to help nursing home residents and staff.
07.14.20
President Trump enacted an executive order on the White House Hispanic Prosperity Initiative to improve access to education, training, and economic opportunities for Hispanic American students.
07.09.20
The Trump administration announced a $1.6 billion agreement with Novavax Inc. to demonstrate commercial-scale manufacturing of the company’s COVID-19 investigational vaccine.
07.07.20
The Trump administration announced the launch of the REACH program, a national public health campaign aimed to empower all Americans to play a critical role in preventing suicide.
07.07.20
The Trump administration announced that 20 U.S. small businesses in 14 states will receive more than $3 million to research and develop innovative solutions to our nation’s transportation challenges.
07.06.20
President Trump’s United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement trade deal will potentially add up to 588,000 jobs and grow U.S. GDP by $235 billion.
07.01.20
The Trump administration launched a $3 million public safety campaign to combat child vehicular heatstroke deaths across the country.
07.01.20
The Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security and the Cybersecurity Infrastructure and Security Agency distributed over 346 million masks for critical workers.
06.29.20
President Trump ordered testing of more than 500,000 Americans each day which will soon be equivalent to 30 million people in the United States.
06.25.20
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid announced guidelines for states on how to adopt a payment design and implement determinants for health beneficiaries, especially for those dually-eligible.
06.22.20
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services announced a new commission, the Independent Coronavirus Commission on Safety and Quality in Nursing Homes aimed to review the impact of the virus.
06.19.20
The Trump administration announced plans to invest $906 million in the Infrastructure for Rebuilding America discretionary grant program to improve communities and safety, and support economic growth.
06.18.20
The Administration awarded $107.2 million to increase the health workforce in underserved communities to improve the quality, distribution, and diversity of health professionals in the United States.
06.18.20
The Trump administration extended contracts from the first round of the Farmers to Families Food Box Program to help fill the hunger gap in communities across the country.
06.17.20
The Department of Health and Human Services awarded $8 million to 73 organizations that will expand coronavirus training and technical assistance to federally funded health centers nationwide.
06.11.20
The Trump Administration announced a nationwide extension allowing local partners who served free meals to kids during the health crisis to continue this summer, regardless of where the kids live.
06.10.20
President Trump enacted an executive order delegating authority under the Defense Production Act to make meat packing facilities operate at more than 95% capacity, compared to 2019.
06.09.20
President Trump’s efforts to save jobs and reopen the economy led to the U.S. labor market adding 2.5 million jobs in May, including 225,000 manufacturing jobs and 464,000 construction jobs.
06.05.20
The Trump administration distributed more than 5 million food boxes in an effort to support American farmers and families who have been affected by the coronavirus.
06.04.20
The Trump administration approved more than $545 million in payments to producers who applied for the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program.
06.04.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced a task order to provide $628 million to contract with Emergent BioSolutions advancing capabilities for a potential coronavirus vaccine.
06.01.20
The Trump Administration announced that 15.5 million cloth facial coverings would be sent to the transportation workforce.
05.28.20
The Federal Communications Commission’s COVID-19 Telehealth Program approved funding for 185 health care providers in 38 states and Washington, D.C.
05.28.20
The USDA announced $1 billion in loan guarantees available to rural businesses to meet working capital needs during the coronavirus pandemic.
05.22.20
The USDA provided assistance to producers of agriculture commodities who suffered a 5% or greater price decline due to the coronavirus.
05.22.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced $225 million in funding for Rural Health Clinics to support coronavirus testing efforts.
05.20.20
The Trump Administration announced the framework and leadership for “Operation Warp Speed” in effort to accelerate the development of a coronavirus vaccine.
05.15.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced $5 million in new funding to support coronavirus research related activities.
05.14.20
The Department of Health and Human Services awarded $15 million to 159 organizations across five health workforce programs increasing telehealth capabilities during the coronavirus pandemic.
05.13.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced the process to deliver the drug Remdesivir, which will be used to treat coronavirus patients in areas that have been hit hardest.
05.09.20
The Department of Health and Human Services awarded $583 million to 1,385 HRSA funded health centers in all 50 states, DC, and eight territories, aimed to expand coronavirus testing.
05.07.20
The USDA and the CDC worked with state and local officials to ensure the availability of a stable supply of protein for American consumers, while keeping employees safe.
05.06.20
The Trump administration initiated the second round of the Paycheck Protection Program worth $175 billion, reaching 2.2 million small businesses.
05.03.20
The Trump administration announced that the Office of Minority Health would invest up to $40 million in state and local organizations, strengthening efforts to test for COVID-19 and provide services.
05.01.20
The Trump administration announced that the Department of Health and Human Services processed payments from the Provider Relief Fund for hospitals and rural providers responding to COVID-19.
05.01.20
The Trump administration announced the launch of a new COVID-19 Uninsured Program Portal in an effort to cover testing and treatment for uninsured individuals.
04.27.20
The USDA announced a 40% increase in SNAP benefits to ensure that low-income families have enough food during the COVID-19 pandemic.
04.22.20
President Trump directed the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services and the Assistant Secretary of Preparedness and Response to release a toolkit, maximizing resources based on each state’s needs.
04.22.20
The Department of Education announced an additional $6.2 billion in funding for higher education institutions during the COVID-19 crisis.
04.21.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced an expedited process to release emergency grants for treatment of substance use disorders and mental illnesses during the COVID-19 crisis.
04.20.20
The Department of Transportation announced an additional $10 billion for commercial and general aviation airports, funding operations and saving workers’ jobs during the COVID-19 crisis.
04.14.20
The U.S. Border Patrol Chief announced 158 miles of the wall completed, 192 miles under construction, and 403 miles in pre-construction, fulfilling the President’s promise to secure the border.
04.13.20
The USDA released a resource guide with programs that can provide assistance to rural communities affected by COVID-19, fulfilling the President’s promise to support rural America.
04.13.20
The Department of Education announced a new process, providing funding flexibilities to states to best meet the needs of students and educators during the COVID-19 pandemic.
04.06.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced that the CDC is providing $186 million to fund resources to state and local jurisdictions to combat COVID-19.
04.06.20
The Department of Health and Human Services announced that state, tribal, and territorial health labs will have access to ID Now, providing COVID-19 test results in under 13 minutes.
04.06.20
The Small Business Administration launched the Paycheck Protection Program, a $349 billion emergency loan program, created after President Trump’s signature on the CARES Act.
04.03.20
Directed by the Trump Administration, the USNS Comfort, a Navy hospital ship, arrived in New York City, providing up to 1,000 beds and freeing up beds at hospitals focused on combating COVID-19.
03.30.20
President Trump signed a relief bill to mitigate the worst effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on the U.S. economy and aid areas in the U.S. that have been the most affected by the virus.
03.27.20
Under the direction of the Trump Administration, the U.S. Navy Hospital Ship Mercy arrived In Los Angeles to help relieve local hospitals that have been overburdened by COVID-19.
03.27.20
The Department of Education announced the halt of collection and wage garnishments, providing flexibility for “at least 60 days” due to the COVID-19 national emergency.
03.25.20
President Trump ordered the National Guard to mobilize under Title-32 in three states hit hard by COVID-19, allowing the Federal Government to pay for the troops with direction from state governors.
03.22.20
The Department of Homeland Security announced restrictions of all non- essential travel across the U.S.- Mexico border due to the mitigating of COVID-19.
03.20.20
The Department of Homeland Security announced the restriction of all non-essential travel across the U.S.- Canada border to “exercise caution” to prevent further spread of COVID-19.
03.20.20
President Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, expanding the SNAP and WIC programs by adding $500 million, helping pregnant women and those who lost their jobs due to COVID-19.
03.18.20
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James B.
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Mglaffas81 wrote:
What I find funniest of all is the fact that you somehow think Trump is the antithesis to corruption, incompetence, greed, arrogance and whatever else you see to be flawed about your government.

Don't recall saying Trump being an antithesis to anything. He is trying to drain the swamp that is Washington D.C. and getting lots of opposition from both parties. Look at all the B.S done by career politicians to create scandal & get him out of office. They tried to impeach him for something that Biden is on video admitting to doing regarding a loan to Ukraine while he was V.P. Then you have the Obama administration/FBI thing. Lots of stuff there.

Hypocrisy and/or lying in Washington is a given, they pretty much all say one thing in a certain situation/to certain groups/to certain people... it's called politics. It is the Constitutional Duty of the President to select a justice nominee and the Senate to vet and approve. PERIOD

RGB worked for the USSC not Make A Wish Foundation. Research her own words regarding the Presidents duties encompassing all 4 years, not 3 or 3 1/2, not to mention her position on keeping the number of Justices at 9.

She was given the opportunity to retire and have Obama till the vacancy, but declined cause she wanted a female President to replace her, assuming Hilary would win. This playing politics and losing.

You didn't mention the record rise in employment for blacks and other minorities. People working is ALWAYS better than sucking off the Government teat. That refutes the narrative of Trump being racist. Hell Kamala Harris called Biden a racist during the debates and said she believed Tara Reid, yet endorsed him before eventually accepting the VP nomination.... An exemplary exhibition of politics like I mentioned above.

I was pissed when Trump signed the Cares Act, as well as subsequent relief bills. He isn't a typical politician much less a career one. He speaks his mind and you know where he stands. That means something to me. Do I agree with everything he says or does? Nope.

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You're just plain wrong about Donald Trump. I can't convince you otherwise, but fine. Believe what you want, the guy is as corrupt as he is incompetent. He's not draining the swamp, he is the swamp.

I can't really comment much about that long list of supposed accomplishments - handing out executive orders doesn't really do much if there isn't any follow-through. The fact remains, for example on Covid, that the United States has 4% of the world's population, yet 25% of the world's corona-related deaths.

By the way, I'm not offended at all about people calling it the "WuFlu", it just suggests to me to be that person's attempt at casting the blame at the country of origin as a result of their president's unprecedentedly poor handling of the virus. It's not China's fault you're in the mess that you're in. It's the fault of your incompetent government and the actions of ignorant people.

Trump is on tape acknowledging he knew about the virus back in February, and how deadly it was, yet he chose not only to stand idly by, but actively denying and denigrating its effects, severely worsening the problem, since there are still (unfortunately) millions of people who actually listen to him. The republican party only cares about lowering taxes (primarily for the rich) and keeping the stock market in check, completely disregarding human lives. Believe otherwise, but that's what I take from statements and actions. Not to mention the active attempts at voter suppression going on in some republican-governed states (fake ballot boxes, the removal of most places one can cast one's vote).

That's not even touching on all the other issues affecting the average American that have only become worse, or at the very least not bettered, with Trump (and republicans in general) in office.

Anyway, this will be my last post. Cheers
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Let us be fair for the sake of being fair! - Page 4 543534 My god, you sound exactly like the Biden campaign commercials airing ad nauseating around here. Excellent mimicry. Congratulations.
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Mglaffas81 wrote:
You're just plain wrong about Donald Trump. I can't convince you otherwise, but fine. Believe what you want, the guy is as corrupt as he is incompetent. He's not draining the swamp, he is the swamp.

I can't really comment much about that long list of supposed accomplishments - handing out executive orders doesn't really do much if there isn't any follow-through. The fact remains, for example on Covid, that the United States has 4% of the world's population, yet 25% of the world's corona-related deaths.

By the way, I'm not offended at all about people calling it the "WuFlu", it just suggests to me to be that person's attempt at casting the blame at the country of origin as a result of their president's unprecedentedly poor handling of the virus. It's not China's fault you're in the mess that you're in. It's the fault of your incompetent government and the actions of ignorant people.

Trump is on tape acknowledging he knew about the virus back in February, and how deadly it was, yet he chose not only to stand idly by, but actively denying and denigrating its effects, severely worsening the problem, since there are still (unfortunately) millions of people who actually listen to him. The republican party only cares about lowering taxes (primarily for the rich) and keeping the stock market in check, completely disregarding human lives. Believe otherwise, but that's what I take from statements and actions. Not to mention the active attempts at voter suppression going on in some republican-governed states (fake ballot boxes, the removal of most places one can cast one's vote).

That's not even touching on all the other issues affecting the average American that have only become worse, or at the very least not bettered, with Trump (and republicans in general) in office.

Anyway, this will be my last post. Cheers

Yeah... the career politicians are not corrupt! Laughing very hard

You can’t comment on his accomplishments... that’s because you can’t accept it.

Why don’t you do some research on the Clinton’s, Obama and the Biden’s (Joe and his son Hunter). Be honest with yourself! Take off the blinders dude.

I would have more respect if you just said everyone is terrible. But all you do is slander Trump. You have a one way mind and that’s it! You willfully turn a blind eye to everything the Dems have done.
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It’s not China’s fault??   insane

They allowed the virus to spread beyond their borders after knowing about it long beforehand. It was literally created in a lab there! And you blame Trump?

Did you know each state’s governor has the power to mandate their own rules and laws in their state? In other words... they don’t necessarily take orders from Trump. The California governor Gavin Newscum does whatever he wants! Same with the incompetent far left mayors of Portland and Seattle. They literally stood by and allowed the rioters to destroy the cities. They rejected Trump’s offer to help bring order with the national guard. The cops were useless.
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Damn it, it turned out not to be my last post.

I've said before, that corruption is a massive problem in American politics, in both major parties. Trump is not so much the problem as a symptom/result of a larger one. I think I've mentioned campaign financing/political donation as the core problem several times now.

You can blame China for their handling of the virus, sure. Don't know about it being created in a lab, I heard it came from bats. In any case, it doesn't really matter. Once it has spread, it's up to the affected nations to do whatever they can to curb it. While Europe is experiencing a resurgence of the virus at the moment, we're still doing (Denmark being among the top nations) much better than the US. I get that the US is complicated politically, as it is a massive federal republic. But Trump has done absolutely nothing to rectify the situation, he's only made it worse. His actions are completely irresponsible.

I honestly didn't take the time to read your whole list, but one thing I have come to notice, is that there's usually a dark side to every supposedly good thing this man (or the Republicans/corporate Democrats in general) does. Like the promise to lower prescription drug prices - if you listen to the wording, it basically gives the large pharmaceutical companies the chance to cop out. His visits and talks in North Korea is nothing but theatre - what was actually accomplished? Nothing. Only vague promises of "striving for de-nuclearisation" - since then, they've merely continued with their program.

In any case, I just can't see how anyone could watch more than a few clips of the man and think, "that's my guy". I guess people vote more from a sense of identity than pragmatism. However, there is a reason for his unprecedented unpopularity and the fact that he's losing massively in the poles, with a 40+ point lead to Biden in the midwestern swing states.

What exactly do you think he stands for, or has done, that causes you to support him? Because I'm telling you, whatever he promises, you're not getting. Remember all those talking points about keeping jobs in in the States? Turns out he's given substantially more federal support to companies who outsource their labor than to the ones that don't. Whoops. His policies are literally sending jobs overseas - not saying that wasn't happening before, but that was one of his big themes that was completely betrayed. All the talk about illegal immigrants "stealing" American jobs? (I'm so sick of this argument - they take the jobs nobody else wants and are massively important to the economy of states like California, all while not being eligible for any benefits) - turns out he's completely fine with having them work for dirt at Mar-A-Lago. Those types of discrepancies are just a drop in the ocean, though.

And what exactly are you afraid of in terms of a Biden/Democratic presidency? What do you think will happen that will affect you negatively? And how exactly have your lives improved with a Trump presidency?

I agree that Joe Biden is the worst candidate the Democrats could have put out there. He's not winning because of who he is, he's winning in spite of it - that's how terrible Trump is.
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Covid is a virus and a virus infects people, right?

First it was the "experts" saying millions are going to die in the US if we did "everything correct", right?

When that didn't happen, the media narrative switched from deaths to cases, right?

Then you had censorship of anything/everything by corporate media and tech platforms that was against the fear mongering agenda being propagated by political factions to control the populace, regardless of the source being scientific or medical in profession, right?

Regardless if you were to "not agree" that everything stated above is truth one fact remains. Civic cases are increasing, but you still have a 99% chance of survival unless you are over 70 or have a comorbidity.

In the U S, the state's with the most deaths are those with Democrat governors. Their policies were the cause of the high numbers. From isolating the healthy to prevent here immunity, putting infected elderly persons into nursing homes with those more susceptible of dying from Covid, to mandating masks, which in fact cause an individual to breathe in their own carbon monoxide that has an effect on the way a body's immune system functions as well as it not being a sufficient filter to prohibit the passing of the virus due to it's small micron size.

Something to pknder, Governor Gavin Newsome of California, imposed a mandate regarding masks for Covid, then came out during recent fires and said same masks will not protect you from breathing in harmful smoke and ash caused by fires. WTF
Just look at objectively

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Troublezone wrote:
Mglaffas81 wrote:
You're just plain wrong about Donald Trump. I can't convince you otherwise, but fine. Believe what you want, the guy is as corrupt as he is incompetent. He's not draining the swamp, he is the swamp.

I can't really comment much about that long list of supposed accomplishments - handing out executive orders doesn't really do much if there isn't any follow-through. The fact remains, for example on Covid, that the United States has 4% of the world's population, yet 25% of the world's corona-related deaths.

By the way, I'm not offended at all about people calling it the "WuFlu", it just suggests to me to be that person's attempt at casting the blame at the country of origin as a result of their president's unprecedentedly poor handling of the virus. It's not China's fault you're in the mess that you're in. It's the fault of your incompetent government and the actions of ignorant people.

Trump is on tape acknowledging he knew about the virus back in February, and how deadly it was, yet he chose not only to stand idly by, but actively denying and denigrating its effects, severely worsening the problem, since there are still (unfortunately) millions of people who actually listen to him. The republican party only cares about lowering taxes (primarily for the rich) and keeping the stock market in check, completely disregarding human lives. Believe otherwise, but that's what I take from statements and actions. Not to mention the active attempts at voter suppression going on in some republican-governed states (fake ballot boxes, the removal of most places one can cast one's vote).

That's not even touching on all the other issues affecting the average American that have only become worse, or at the very least not bettered, with Trump (and republicans in general) in office.

Anyway, this will be my last post. Cheers

Yeah... the career politicians are not corrupt! Laughing very hard

You can’t comment on his accomplishments... that’s because you can’t accept it.

Why don’t you do some research on the Clinton’s, Obama and the Biden’s (Joe and his son Hunter). Be honest with yourself! Take off the blinders dude.

I would have more respect if you just said everyone is terrible. But all you do is slander Trump. You have a one way mind and that’s it! You willfully turn a blind eye to everything the Dems have done.

Biden has been in public office for almost 50 years and now he is talking about fixing things? He has spent decades in power during his Senate career and has held one of the highest offices in the country and has not accomplished the change he now supports. What is the definition of insanity?

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What do I have against a Biden presidency?

Look how they stood by and allowed (almost encouraged) the violent protests in all the Democrat dominated cities. It’s been said that Biden will raise the taxes dramatically. Biden’s mind is failing, which means he’s incompetent to lead. His running mate is a far left nightmare. Biden has many ties to China and is most likely on payroll. There are many reasons!

What new wars have we been in with Trump? You discount his negotiations with foreign leaders, but you would probably praise Obama with his submissive “theater” act AKA ass kissing.
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Biden's New favorite song...

If you like subpoena coladas
Getting caught in Ukraine
When your dad's into children
And you're into cocaine

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James B. wrote:
Biden's New favorite song...

If you like subpoena coladas
Getting caught in Ukraine
When your dad's into children
And you're into cocaine

Laughing very hard
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From the Biden Campaign wbsite.....

Under gun safety agenda/policy plan

1- ban on ALL online sales of firearms, ammunition, gun parts gun accessories, and gun kits.

2- civil and criminal liability for adults allowing minors access to firearm even if minor never possess firearm.

3- prohibiting of purchase and/or license of firearm if individual has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime.

Look up what a misdemeanor hate crime is, varied from state to state. Examples are saying a derogatory term to protecting your vehicle thus person/family from being damaged/attacked and you drive away injuring the attacker(s) who/whom are of another race.


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The constitution should block any and all attempts to violate our guaranteed rights as citizens. The actions of a few (criminals etc...) shouldn’t reflect on everyone else.
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Troublezone wrote:
The constitution should block any and all attempts to violate our guaranteed rights as citizens. The actions of a few (criminals etc...) shouldn’t reflect on everyone else.

I don't know? The Patriot Act is a good example of allowing government to take constitutional rights in whole and in part for the sake of being/feeling safe.

Item 2 above is means to criminalize non criminal behavior to confiscate firearms that still leaves others with a right to bare arms.

Items 1 and 3 also still leave others with 2nd Amendment rights, they are just means to restrict access and broken the scope of legislated loss of individual rights.

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https://twitter.com/sebastianbach/status/1318907756666003457
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Lari wrote:
https://twitter.com/sebastianbach/status/1318907756666003457

It’s pretty low to use the recent attention of Eddie’s passing and redirect it for a political campaign. Van Halen as a band stayed away from politics and would never endorse or cause division with their fans like those two morons Sebastian Bach and Dee Snider. They have been so obnoxious with their opinions and have even insulted their own fans that don’t agree with them. They are completely intolerant. Everything the old school liberals used to preach against. Now they are fascist.
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