Official KISS Thread Pt II

anyhoo who can compare KiSS MotleyCrue vs KiSS DefLeppard ?

Never seen this before....promo vid for COTN
Sorry it wouldn't embed for some reason or another.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlGckua_5dg

Thanks for sharing this, I've never seen this promo before.

That's cool. Never saw that before. It's one of their better tunes.

007 wrote:

That's cool. Never saw that before. It's one of their better tunes.

Apparently, it is from some lip synced TV shows done for European markets.

When I first watched it last night, my first inclination was of it being one of those fan edited things. Then when Paul began singing his mouth matched the lyrics. It is still edited weird, but cool as hell anyways. At least to me it is.

I had a great time at the show last night.

Def Leppard was incredibly tight, and Joe sounded awesome. His stage presence was fantastic as well. They are a great fit for this bill. He's adjusted some of the songs and the set as a whole so that he doesn't sound strained on most songs, save maybe "Photograph" and the chorus of "Love Bites."

KISS killed it as usual, but "Psycho Circus" was probably not the best choice for an opener...it seemed like nobody was familiar with it. Paul did sound pretty strained during the verses of "Shout It Out Loud" and "Hotter Than Hell," probably because on top of his ongoing issues this was their third show in a row without a night off. Highlights for me were probably hearing them do "War Machine" and "Hide Your Heart," though I can see why they stick to the hits for arena shows like this...the people around me kept sitting down every time they didn't know a song!

James B. wrote:

007 wrote:

That's cool. Never saw that before. It's one of their better tunes.

Apparently, it is from some lip synced TV shows done for European markets.

When I first watched it last night, my first inclination was of it being one of those fan edited things. Then when Paul began singing his mouth matched the lyrics. It is still edited weird, but cool as hell anyways. At least to me it is.

I think it was on TV in Spain.  This appears to be the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9VynZznQI

Of course, the audio and video are out of synch in this orignial. Ha!

Edit:

Here's a better video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MasEEjgok90

I was finally able to reserve a copy of Paul's book at the library today....hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I was finally able to reserve a copy of Paul's book at the library today....hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week.

I got Paul's book this past weekend... I'm already about 100 pages in (he and Gene have just left Wicked Lester and are plotting their next move), and it's been very entertaining/enlightening thus far. I had no idea that Paul's childhood was so F'd up...

Fat Freddy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

I was finally able to reserve a copy of Paul's book at the library today....hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week.

I got Paul's book this past weekend... I'm already about 100 pages in (he and Gene have just left Wicked Lester and are plotting their next move), and it's been very entertaining/enlightening thus far. I had no idea that Paul's childhood was so F'd up...

Of all four books, I found Paul's the most engaging. Probably betraying a total bias, but his book kind of makes a lot of the treatment of Ace and Peter seem less jerky and much more "Oh no, not this again." Considering that both Ace and Peter's books pretty much corroborate most of the negative stuff both Gene and Paul had to say about them, it's really not controversial anymore. I mean, one could go into the "hey, give them another chance" argument, but what led to where things are now doesn't really seem to be in question.

I've read all three of the other members' books and of those, my favorite was probably Peter's. He did wade in his own self pity a bit too much but his seemed the most genuine. Ace's wasn't as in depth as I would've liked (which makes sense since he apparently can't remember big hunks of the 70s and 80s without help from friends filling in the blanks for him, haha) and Gene's, of course, had the biggest helping of self-serving B.S.

If it keeps going the way it is right now for me, Paul's is shaping up to the be the best of all four.

I enjoyed all of the books, Gene's included, it was interesting hearing about him growing up in Israel.

I enjoyed all four. I did feel that Gene seemed to spend an odd amount of time dis-respecting Ace, including making some claims which has since been proven to be untrue. (Such as Ace never showing up to play the guitar solo in "Sweet Pain" when in fact he had recorded a solo.) Regardless, it was cool getting into the mind of all four of them.

I've only read Paul's and Ace's books.  I liked Paul's better and it seemed honest - or as honest as one person's viewpoint can be.  I thought Ace's book was not very good. I doubt I'll read the other two any time soon.

I'm almost 3/4 of the way thru Paul's book already...great read!

Super Deluxe Love Gun coming next month
http://www.kissnews.de/NewsUSA.htm

CD ONE – Original Album Remastered:
1. I Stole Your Love
2. Christine Sixteen
3. Got Love For Sale
4. Shock Me
5. Tomorrow And Tonight
6. Love Gun
7. Hooligan
8. Almost Human
9. Plaster Caster
10. Then She Kissed Me

CD TWO – Demos, Interview & Live:
1. Much Too Soon (Demo)*
2. Plaster Caster (Demo)*
3. Reputation (Demo)
4. Love Gun (Teaching Demo)*
5. Love Gun (Demo)*
6. Gene Simmons Interview (1977)*
7. Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)*
8. I Know Who You Are (Demo)*
9. Love Gun (Live 1977)*
10. Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)*
11. Shock Me (Live 1977)*

James B. wrote:

Super Deluxe Love Gun coming next month
http://www.kissnews.de/NewsUSA.htm

CD ONE – Original Album Remastered:
1. I Stole Your Love
2. Christine Sixteen
3. Got Love For Sale
4. Shock Me
5. Tomorrow And Tonight
6. Love Gun
7. Hooligan
8. Almost Human
9. Plaster Caster
10. Then She Kissed Me

CD TWO – Demos, Interview & Live:
1. Much Too Soon (Demo)*
2. Plaster Caster (Demo)*
3. Reputation (Demo)
4. Love Gun (Teaching Demo)*
5. Love Gun (Demo)*
6. Gene Simmons Interview (1977)*
7. Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)*
8. I Know Who You Are (Demo)*
9. Love Gun (Live 1977)*
10. Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)*
11. Shock Me (Live 1977)*

Kiss Experts - is this worth getting? Are the demos and live material worth it?

Do not know. Sounds like a cool package.

I agree. I'll have to look and see if I have those demos already. The live material is what interests me the most.

Witchfinder wrote:

James B. wrote:

Super Deluxe Love Gun coming next month
http://www.kissnews.de/NewsUSA.htm

CD ONE – Original Album Remastered:
1. I Stole Your Love
2. Christine Sixteen
3. Got Love For Sale
4. Shock Me
5. Tomorrow And Tonight
6. Love Gun
7. Hooligan
8. Almost Human
9. Plaster Caster
10. Then She Kissed Me

CD TWO – Demos, Interview & Live:
1. Much Too Soon (Demo)*
2. Plaster Caster (Demo)*
3. Reputation (Demo)
4. Love Gun (Teaching Demo)*
5. Love Gun (Demo)*
6. Gene Simmons Interview (1977)*
7. Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)*
8. I Know Who You Are (Demo)*
9. Love Gun (Live 1977)*
10. Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)*
11. Shock Me (Live 1977)*

Kiss Experts - is this worth getting?  Are the demos and live material worth it?

Not an expert, but the "Love Gun" demo is supposed to be different than the version in the box set, Same with "Reputation" being different than what's on KISS 40.  I was hoping for the demos Gene did with the Van Halen Brothers, demos of all the songs on the original album and a DVD of the Japan show from this time frame.   3 discs but still cool.

There are also demos of other songs from this time circulating that are pretty decent. Whoever makes the decisions on these type of things is really dropping the ball. (IMHDO)

James B. wrote:

Witchfinder wrote:

James B. wrote:

Super Deluxe Love Gun coming next month
http://www.kissnews.de/NewsUSA.htm

CD ONE – Original Album Remastered:
1. I Stole Your Love
2. Christine Sixteen
3. Got Love For Sale
4. Shock Me
5. Tomorrow And Tonight
6. Love Gun
7. Hooligan
8. Almost Human
9. Plaster Caster
10. Then She Kissed Me

CD TWO – Demos, Interview & Live:
1. Much Too Soon (Demo)*
2. Plaster Caster (Demo)*
3. Reputation (Demo)
4. Love Gun (Teaching Demo)*
5. Love Gun (Demo)*
6. Gene Simmons Interview (1977)*
7. Tomorrow And Tonight (Demo)*
8. I Know Who You Are (Demo)*
9. Love Gun (Live 1977)*
10. Christine Sixteen (Live 1977)*
11. Shock Me (Live 1977)*

Kiss Experts - is this worth getting?  Are the demos and live material worth it?

Not an expert, but the "Love Gun" demo is supposed to be different than the version in the box set, Same with "Reputation" being different than what's on KISS 40.  I was hoping for the demos Gene did with the Van Halen Brothers, demos of all the songs on the original album and a DVD of the Japan show from this time frame.   3 discs but still cool.

There are also demos of other songs from this time circulating that are pretty decent.  Whoever makes the decisions on these type of things is really dropping the ball. (IMHDO)

Thanks James.

Gene is copycat. Jim already knew that long time ago

Nice setlist for the Vegas residency!

01. Creatures Of The Night
02. Psycho Circus
03. Parasite
04. War Machine
05. Tears Are Falling
06. Let Me Go Rock 'N Roll
07. Lick It Up
08. I Love It Loud
09. Hell Or Hallelujah
10. God Of Thunder
11. Detroit Rock City
12. Love Gun
13. Black Diamond
Encores:
14. Shout It Out Loud
15. I Was Made For Loving You
16. Rock And Roll All Nite

Very cool setlist. Sadly, Paul doen't sound too hot (off key). Understandable though. At least, he's still performing