Jeff Hanneman R.I.P. (1964-2013)

mc666 wrote:

Hate is hate, no matter how one chooses to express it. However, I do agree that everyone should be able to express it vocally, not violently. Picketing funerals is indeed cruel, but it's not a violent act. Physically attacking those picketing for expressing themselves (no matter how improper the forum) is violence. Black metal music bashing Christian belief is not a violent act. Musicians & fans acting out such by desecrating or destroying Christian property is violent.

People should be free to speak their mind, always. Violence should not be tolerated, ever.

100% agree.

A breakdown of the memorial service.

http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/blogs-of-war-heres-what-happened-at-the-jeff-hanneman-public-memorial/

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Still no sign of the Westboro Baptist Church. It occurs to me that if they were going to make good on their threats, they would be here by now. I’m mildly disappointed that I’m not going to see the Church get absolutely owned by an army of amped-up metalheads. Still, all things considered, it’s probably for the best.

Pffft. Weenies. If there's one thing I hate more than a pack of crazed religious zealots, it's a pack of candy-ass crazed religious zealots who talk a lot of sh*t and then don't have the balls to back it up.

I don't know but

Isn't a pack of protesting zealots the same as a pack of metalheads protesting them ?

James B. wrote:

I don't know but

Isn't a pack of protesting zealots the same as a pack of metalheads protesting them ?

Nope!

Boris2008 wrote:

James B. wrote:

I don't know but

Isn't a pack of protesting zealots the same as a pack of metalheads protesting them ?

Nope!

please elaborate

In my train-o-thought, so to speak, if one side is doing something and the other is giving them grief about it by basically doing the same thing. There is no diffference.

James B. wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

James B. wrote:

I don't know but

Isn't a pack of protesting zealots the same as a pack of metalheads protesting them ?

Nope!

please elaborate

In my train-o-thought, so to speak, if one side is doing something and the other is giving them grief about it by basically doing the same thing. There is no diffference.

The way I look at it, you shouldn't go looking for trouble from people who have done nothing to you.

If you do,. and you find trouble that you can't handle, tough!

If Slayer fans started protesting another church, one that hadn't done anything to them, then it would be the same thing.

Boris2008 wrote:

If Slayer fans started protesting another church, one that hadn't done anything to them, then it would be the same thing.

Exactly, if Slayer fans went to another memorial service/funeral and protested it would be the same.

My point isn't where a group protests or what they are even protesting. My point is you have a group protesting someplace/thing (doesn't matter where or what) and another group is protesting them at the same place. No difference because you have one side saying this or that is wrong and the other is saying that they are wrong for doing it or being there.

I think that particular orgainization (WBC) are a bunch of dingbats and twist the Word of God into their own agenda and push a belief system that falls short of the teaching of Christ in the manner in which we are supposed to treat EVERYONE

I also think it's poor judgement to picket a funeral and fingerpoint the errors of others in accordance to a belief system that they may or may not even live by. I just think it is just as poor of judgement for those attending the service to fingerpoint and push their belief system by saying the others are wrong for protesting the service.

Boris2008 wrote:

If Slayer fans started protesting another church, one that hadn't done anything to them, then it would be the same thing.

Why would they (Slayer fans) protest a church if they felt nothing was done to them. For whatever reason, WBC feels that some sort of wrong has been done . So in their reality, they are there for a reason.

So the protesting someplace for no reason debate doesn't apply here. Even if you or I think there is no reason. The folks at WBC think otherwise.

As far as I can tell the folks at WBC don't actually "think".

James B. wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

If Slayer fans started protesting another church, one that hadn't done anything to them, then it would be the same thing.

For whatever reason, WBC feels that some sort of wrong has been done . So in their reality, they are there for a reason.

They are there to get publicity for their ridiculous cult, (and a fat cheque if anyone got upset enough to turn violent) not because any wrong has been done.

Anyone can say "YOU HAVE OFFENDED THE LORD GOD!!!!" If you are the one deciding what God gets offended by. Jeff didn't do squat to the Westbro nutters.

I have been to too many funerals of people that I love in the past few years to think that anyone who cared about Jeff would want any kind of protest at his memorial, so in a way, you are right, I think that the whole spectacle must have been upsetting for those close. But at least there were enough people who cared enough about the man to stick up for what he was about to these assholes.

S.D. wrote:

As far as I can tell the folks at WBC don't actually "think".

Yeppers

If I would of said the "intention" behind the protests on both sides were the same than maybe my point would of been easier to understand ? The where and why are irrelevant when what is the main focus. Which in my position the what was more prevalent than the other pertaining circumstances.

Please somebody just tell me to shut-up, thank you

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Please somebody just tell me to shut-up, thank you

Shut up. Thank you.

...hey, you asked.

yes I did, thank you kindly ! sir

James B. wrote:

S.D. wrote:

As far as I can tell the folks at WBC don't actually "think".

Yeppers

If I would of said the "intention" behind the protests on both sides were the same than maybe my point would of been easier to understand ? The where and why are irrelevant when what is the main focus. Which in my position the what was more prevalent than the other pertaining circumstances.

Please somebody just tell me to shut-up, thank you

Darn, FF beat me to it!!!

For the record, as far as I am concerned, WBC is NOT a Christian organization and their actions have nothing to do with Christianity.