The offical Kiss thread

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I know this discussion is taking place in the "official Kiss thread" but the tour also features Motley Crue. 2 bands for the price of an arm and leg.

No interest in seeing the Crue and Tommy's roller coaster drum kit?

Ticket price aside, the other major reason I'm skipping this tour is cuz I don't want those ass monkeys in Motley Crue getting any of my money.

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I know this discussion is taking place in the "official Kiss thread" but the tour also features Motley Crue. 2 bands for the price of an arm and leg.

No interest in seeing the Crue and Tommy's roller coaster drum kit?

Ticket price aside, the other major reason I'm skipping this tour is cuz I don't want those ass monkeys in Motley Crue getting any of my money.

Gee, you don't want to see Vince Neil sing less than half the words and sign them off key?

thejokeriv wrote:

Gee, you don't want to see Vince Neil sing less than half the words and sign them off key?

They were the first one of "my" bands to "sell out" when I was a kid, so I'm still holding onto my juvenile grudge against them that I've nurtured since the THEATRE OF PAIN album. I know, it's totally irrational, but I don't care.

Therefore, my ideal Motley Crue set would be for them to come out on stage, play TOO FAST FOR LOVE and SHOUT AT THE DEVIL in their entireties, and then announce their retirement immediately thereafter.

Fat Freddy wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

Gee, you don't want to see Vince Neil sing less than half the words and sign them off key?

They were the first one of "my" bands to "sell out" when I was a kid, so I'm still holding onto my juvenile grudge against them that I've nurtured since the THEATRE OF PAIN album. I know, it's totally irrational, but I don't care.

Therefore, my ideal Motley Crue set would be for them to come out on stage, play TOO FAST FOR LOVE and SHOUT AT THE DEVIL in their entireties, and then announce their retirement immediately thereafter.

Yeah, that would be good!!!!! I feel the exact same way about Theatre - when it came out, I was no longer a Crue fan. I did like Dr. Feelgood and my opinion since Dr. Feelgood was released is that Motley Crue released three good albums (TFFL, SATD, DF) in 30 years time.

KISS is my favorite band, Motley is a top 10 fave as well. I've seen KISS once and Motley twice and would still pay whatever ticket price they charged to see them again. They both put on great shows. Unfortunately, I'd have to drive 5 hours to Atlanta for the nearest show, plan gas money, hotel room, etc so I'm not doing it.

Nikki said they'll be playing a new song on the tour. It's called "Sex". Yep. He says it sounds raw (raw "Sex"?) like the first album and supposedly that's the direction they are taking with the album they're working on now.

krokus wrote:

I think that UNMASKED is a very special album. The feeling that songs like NAKED CITY(one of my fave KISS songs ever), or EASY AS IT SEEMS gives me is just very very special and great.

I agree with you. There are definitely some over looked gems on Unmasked. Naked City and Easy As It Seems are GREAT songs.

http://uverseonline.att.net/KISS

Livestream of a concert they're playing. Paul sounds terrible...

MEGATRON wrote:

http://uverseonline.att.net/KISS

Livestream of a concert they're playing. Paul sounds terrible...

Thanks for the link. Didn't know about this show. What's pretty cool is that KISS seems to do a lot of these free streaming concerts.

I agree Paul doesn't sound great. I thought that surgery he had was supposed to fix his vocal problems. He seems kinda lethargic though... Doesn't seem to be into it. I wonder if he's sick.

Where are they playing?

Metal Misfit wrote:

MEGATRON wrote:

http://uverseonline.att.net/KISS

Livestream of a concert they're playing. Paul sounds terrible...

Thanks for the link. Didn't know about this show. What's pretty cool is that KISS seems to do a lot of these free streaming concerts.

I agree Paul doesn't sound great. I thought that surgery he had was supposed to fix his vocal problems. He seems kinda lethargic though... Doesn't seem to be into it. I wonder if he's sick.

Where are they playing?

They're playing in New Orleans’ Woldenberg Park. It's a free concert.

Paul sounded good during the intro to Black Diamond, but that's about it. Whenever he starts shouting the lyrics (which is most of the time), his voice cracks.

honestly ?
im tired of their playlist.
im not interested anymore to hear/listen same s**t every year every tour.
they are so lazy to learn "new" stuff, they didn't hear the fans voices what to play.
i'm sick and tired.

iamrockerfun wrote:

honestly ?
im tired of their playlist.
im not interested anymore to hear/listen same s**t every year every tour.
they are so lazy to learn "new" stuff, they didn't hear the fans voices what to play.
i'm sick and tired.

Couldn't agree more! I have no need to hear "I Was Made For Loving You" live for the umpteenth time.

I can't disagree with either one of you, but if KISS did not do this set and added a bunch of new songs or deep cuts, had to trouble a number of their classics, alot of their fans would be disappointed.

manny wrote:

I can't disagree with either one of you, but if KISS did not do this set and added a bunch of new songs or deep cuts, had to trouble a number of their classics, alot of their fans would be disappointed.

yep. I would like a balance of songs from the new one and Sonic boom along with the classics.

I think KISS would be surprised if they opened with "The Oath" or "Creatures" and the response that would get ? Play "I" instead of "Shout" ? who knows

Paul always tries to downplay the need for setlist changes. He says it's only a vocal minority that wants to hear '80s stuff, Carnival of Souls or The Elder. He says most of that stuff would leave people scratching their heads but I don't agree. I agree with James, I think they'd be really surprised at the crowd's reaction if they actually did some of those songs.

I don't think someone just "likes" KISS. If you're a KISS fan, you're a die-hard. Die-hards want to hear it all. I don't think it's a case of laziness, if they were lazy they would have never even bothered releasing two new albums within 3 years time, I think it's a case of not being in touch with their audience.

On the Sonic Boom tour, they did 2 new songs (Modern Day Delilah & Say Yeah) and I think for awhile they even tried doing three but dropped it (When Lightning Strikes..?). In the mid '00s I think they made some changes to allow for more '80s material (such as Tears Are Falling) but since then they've gone back to the standard setlist they've had for the past 15 years or so.

Metal Misfit wrote:

Paul always tries to downplay the need for setlist changes. He says it's only a vocal minority that wants to hear '80s stuff, Carnival of Souls or The Elder. He says most of that stuff would leave people scratching their heads but I don't agree. I agree with James, I think they'd be really surprised at the crowd's reaction if they actually did some of those songs.

I don't think someone just "likes" KISS. If you're a KISS fan, you're a die-hard. Die-hards want to hear it all. I don't think it's a case of laziness, if they were lazy they would have never even bothered releasing two new albums within 3 years time, I think it's a case of not being in touch with their audience.

On the Sonic Boom tour, they did 2 new songs (Modern Day Delilah & Say Yeah) and I think for awhile they even tried doing three but dropped it (When Lightning Strikes..?). In the mid '00s I think they made some changes to allow for more '80s material (such as Tears Are Falling) but since then they've gone back to the standard setlist they've had for the past 15 years or so.

We I saw them, they did Delilah, Say Yeah and Animal

I tried to watch some of this live-streaming concert last night on Facebook but could never get thru. All I got was a blank screen.

thejokeriv wrote:

We I saw them, they did Delilah, Say Yeah and Animal

I saw them right before the Sonic Boom tour when they were still doing Alive/35 at Cobo in Detroit. They only played Delilah, I hope they were gonna do Animal as well. I think the official Boom tour kicked off 2 or 3 days later.

Speaking as a long time KISS fan, I too would love to see some change ups in the song selection. Throw in some Creatures, the Elder, Carnival Of Souls and Unmasked. I'd be more excited hearing that stuff than the same old same old.


Easier said than done,I guess. When you have that extensive a catalog it's rough to include everything and Some of those obscure songs they'd probably need to re-learn them !

fans make a a lot of excuses and it doesnt matter if ure die hard or little lower fan.
but enough is enough.
every band from Judas to U2 or Accept or older neweer made setlist change every tour.
KiSS didnt, thay strictly do same s**t every single tour wout any changes. (except if new album come out) and then same songs over and over again.
i think the last change was in ROTN tour where thay did the last excellent playlist... after that ... everthing sux a lot.

im fan but cant stand it right now almost cant watch it.
(whera are CotN, Revenge, PC or some songs that can be played live ?)

im sick of it.

I think kiss are kinda like maiden in the respect that some people just go to hear the old material and if they play new stuff the fans dont like it. Its kinda a no-win situation.

exact33 wrote:

I think kiss are kinda like maiden in the respect that some people just go to hear the old material and if they play new stuff the fans dont like it. Its kinda a no-win situation.

Iron Maiden's newer material sounds a lot different from their old stuff, which is why some fans dislike it when they play new songs (not me). With KISS, their music hasn't really changed over the years. Sonic Boom sounds like the missing album between Love Gun and Creatures of the Night and I'm sure Monster will sound similar, so why wouldn't concert goers want to hear these songs live? KISS are so out of touch with their own fans, it's quite pathetic really.

Metal Misfit wrote:

KISS is my favorite band, Motley is a top 10 fave as well.

Likewise. And I actually like Motley more now than I did back in the day. I've already bought my tickets for "The Tour" in Tampa. Can't wait.

Maiden did change the setlist every tour.
of cors soem classic can't be missed but they did change, the chose the best and non best flicks from albums and palyed them live.
KiSS will be playin same songs over and over again, no change.

KISS should do what Priest did on their last tour, and that is play a song from every album. Of course, that was Priest's farewell tour, but still.

In fact it would be cool if they did what Maiden has done and sort of "re-create" a tour from the past. KISS could have a retro stage design and wear the retro costumes.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing the battle tank return.