VH1 Classic Metal Evolution

Fat Freddy wrote:

kmorg wrote:

Supposedly homosexuality was the ultimate way of going against the Church.

That's a rather odd way of saying "Ooooh, that dang Church! I'll show THEM!"

well, theres always the fact that sodomy has long been cemented as one of the most black metal acts, topics, and words ever to grace the scene. tnbm - true norwegian butt mashing.

Upping this thread, Did anyone catch the Nu-Metal episode?

Loved it how Dunn expresses his distaste on this subgenre a couple of times, much like the Glam Metal episode

The series has been quite a snoozer since the THRASH segment, so looking forward for the Power and Progressive Rock episodes

I have enjoyed all the episodes so far including the nu metal segment, and I am not huge fan of nu-metal

I caught part of the Nu-Metal episode this morning...it just confirmed my hatred of the genre.

Another great job and I complete agree with everything Sam Dunn said about nu metal - it sucks!!!!!

I caught the episode and it was puzzling that Pantera, of all bands, led off the episode. The episode also made me remember just how terrible nu-metal was. Ugh. It was quite amusing watching Fred Durst trying to explain what happened at Woodstock '99 though. Also, it was annoying to hear one of those record label guys trying to defend Nu-metal by slagging Glam by saying that Nu-metal had more integrity that Glam. Whatever, dumbass - apparently you've never heard "Nookie."

I swear...watching that episode, I wanted to slap Durst in the face repeatedly with a wet fish. He's got about as much integrity as Puff Daddy.

I caught a little of it last night too. I'll eventually get around to watching the entire episode, (gotta watch the grunge one too) but I thought what I saw was interesting. I'm still not a fan, but it was interesting nonetheless.

Was it just me or did it seem like NOBODY likes Fred Durst and Limp Bizcut? Even their contemporaries were blaming him for the whole Woodstock debacle and everything "wrong" with nu-metal? I need to see the whole episode though. Maybe I'm off on that.

I flipped past VH1C while the nu-metal episode was on last night, and couldn't bring myself to watch more than two minutes of it.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I caught a little of it last night too. I'll eventually get around to watching the entire episode, (gotta watch the grunge one too) but I thought what I saw was interesting. I'm still not a fan, but it was interesting nonetheless.

Was it just me or did it seem like NOBODY likes Fred Durst and Limp Bizcut? Even their contemporaries were blaming him for the whole Woodstock debacle and everything "wrong" with nu-metal? I need to see the whole episode though. Maybe I'm off on that.

Well, Fred Durst is a douche bag!!!!!!!! You have to be to name your band after the Limp Biscuit (look it up on Urban Dictionary if you don't know what it is......) First time I heard the band and I wanted to smack him. What a douche!

I didn't realize the Pantera connection until the nu metal bands started talking about it.

I've watched the first 3 episodes, enjoyable enough, but really doesn't break any new ground or offer any new insights. It could have been MUCH better.

S.D. wrote:

I've watched the first 3 episodes, enjoyable enough, but really doesn't break any new ground or offer any new insights. It could have been MUCH better.

As much as I enjoy the series, I have to agree with this statement, who knows what the DVD's be like, but it seems it be rushed to tell a story of that particular episode, the nu metal was interesting to me because its not a genre I cared for, with the exception of few bands such as the Deftones and the band that everybody on this board hates, but me K orn.

I do wonder if I was not on the wrong side of my 20's if I would have liked this music more when it was first released in the late 90's, I liked K orn but some of the folks who worked in my area who were 19-20 years old at the time K orn, Sh!t Bizkit, Coal Chamber came out, worshiped these bands.

I'm not going to bother watching anything after the NWOBHM episode, I have zero interest in watching shows on glam, grunge or nu metal.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I swear...watching that episode, I wanted to slap Durst in the face repeatedly with a wet fish. He's got about as much integrity as Puff Daddy.

Those Sexual Assaults and gang-rapin' at the mosh pit were the first of its kind

He did insinuate indirectly, unfortunately, whether he was aware of it or not, to tear the place down

S.D. wrote:

I'm not going to bother watching anything after the NWOBHM episode, I have zero interest in watching shows on glam, grunge or nu metal.

You are not going to watch the next episode? !? Alice Cooper will be featured in next one about shock rock!

I think I'll just wait for the Alice Cooper documentary to come out.

manny wrote:

S.D. wrote:

I'm not going to bother watching anything after the NWOBHM episode, I have zero interest in watching shows on glam, grunge or nu metal.

You are not going to watch the next episode? !? Alice Cooper will be featured in next one about shock rock!

...and GWAR!!!!

manny wrote:

As much as I enjoy the series, I have to agree with this statement, who knows what the DVD's be like, but it seems it be rushed to tell a story of that particular episode

The problem with any show like this is that someone that already knows the genre won't get much out of it. It's like showing your documentary about the Civil War to college professors that specialize in Civil War history - about the best you can hope for is that they don't rip your head off for getting too much wrong. Compared to other "introduction to heavy metal" documentaries I've seen, though (e.g., Heavy: The Story of Metal), I think Metal Evolution is pretty good. It just needs to be broader. We shouldn't be getting a grunge episode while death and doom metal aren't being covered at all.

sheets wrote:

manny wrote:

As much as I enjoy the series, I have to agree with this statement, who knows what the DVD's be like, but it seems it be rushed to tell a story of that particular episode

The problem with any show like this is that someone that already knows the genre won't get much out of it. It's like showing your documentary about the Civil War to college professors that specialize in Civil War history - about the best you can hope for is that they don't rip your head off for getting too much wrong. Compared to other "introduction to heavy metal" documentaries I've seen, though (e.g., Heavy: The Story of Metal), I think Metal Evolution is pretty good. It just needs to be broader. We shouldn't be getting a grunge episode while death and doom metal aren't being covered at all.

I agree with everything sheets said.

At least with this series, we're getting 45 minutes focusing on each genre, instead of trying (again) to cram all of Metal into 1 hour & 45 minutes.

Kinda annoying Sevendust was never mentioned.

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I do wonder if I was not on the wrong side of my 20's if I would have liked this music more when it was first released in the late 90's, I liked K orn but some of the folks who worked in my area who were 19-20 years old at the time K orn, Sh!t Bizkit, Coal Chamber came out, worshiped these bands.

Same with me. I remember clear back in 94 when \"thebandthatshallneverbementionedagain\" came out with their first record people I knew went crazy for it. It was one of those records I just never got the intense love for. At best I thought it was okay. And that is about where I've always stood with nu-metal. Some of it is okay. I also tend to see it as a gateway onto other forms of metal. As I think many of the younger dudes on here have mentioned they became metal fans via first becoming nu-metal fans. So in that sense I'm cool with the whole scene.

CraiggyOats wrote:

Kinda annoying Sevendust was never mentioned.

Well, P.O.D. wasn't mentioned either and their "Satellite" album sold 3x platinum in the U.S. alone with follow-up releases selling gold.


I watched the episode. It was ok. I found the grunge one more enjoyable. I thought the little section on Slayer was interesting. I also found it interesting that 'the blame' for nu-metal was taken off of Anthrax and put on Pantera and Sepultura.

I thought it was funny that all the Grungie dudes kept insisting that they weren't metal because they didn't look like Poison or Manowar. So I guess if you don't wear hairspray, spandex, or some other silly costume you aren't metal either. We are all false-metal posers! Save us Eddie Veder! YARLLLL!

Didn't care for the Nu-metal episodes but this weeks show is focused on glam. I'm really looking forward to the last 2 progressive metal & power metal!

Wargod

I've watched all the episodes that have come out so far. Unfortunately, I missed the NWOBHM episode. You can watch all the episodes streaming off VH1 website:

http://www.vh1.com/shows/metal_evolution/series.jhtml

If you look closely episode 104 is missing???

You can guess what episode 104 is...