VH1 Classic Metal Evolution

sheets wrote:

He's probably got enough footage to do an expanded version. Maybe we'll get lucky with the dvds?

That's kinda what I am hoping...

Swedish national broadcasting will be starting this series tomorrow night! I'm glad I'll be able to see this!

kmorg wrote:

Swedish national broadcasting will be starting this series tomorrow night! I'm glad I'll be able to see this!

Go to RockBox Torrents, you should be able to download the series easily because they are well-seeded, no need to wait for the TV broadcast

I'm still playing catch-up with the series, but the ones I've seen have been pretty enjoyable. It keeps me entertained for 45 minutes. I like seeing some of the old footage and photos.

Anyone else find it amusing to see footage of Biff singing 'Denim & Leather' wearing silver spandex pants and bright red t-shirt?

For anyone keeping score at home, we've got these genres coming up...

Episode 8/ Jan. 14th - NuMetal / Raprock
Episode 9/ Jan. 21st - Shock Rock
Episode 10/ Jan. 28th - Power Metal
Episode 11/ Feb. 4th - Progessive Metal

I am not fan of nu metal outside of handful bands, actually I am not sure if bands like K orn, Slipknot or Killswitch Engage are considered Nu Metal or not.


I am surprised there is not one show dedicated to extreme death/black metal genre

About to watch Thrash...

I'm watching as the episodes are getting posted on VH1 Classic's Facebook page. Good series but the problem is they simply can't devote enough time to any of these scenes. There's so much to be said, so many bands to cover... They could expand each episode into an entire season.

Anybody know what else Dunn is working on? I imagine he's not going to keep making rock/metal documentaries for the rest of his life.

manny wrote:

I am surprised there is not one show dedicated to extreme death/black metal genre

Definitely should've been an Extreme Metal episode. That is quite odd, it's glaringly absent. Isn't Dunn a big fan of extreme metal? Maybe VH1 didn't want that stuff on their network though, which is understandable. There's not a lot they could discuss about it or show without offending some viewers.

The only other type of metal I see is missing is the doom/sludge/stoner stuff. But again, I can understand there being no interest in doing an episode on that. All the other stuff being shown were/are bigger scenes.

manny wrote:

I am not fan of nu metal outside of handful bands, actually I am not sure if bands like K orn, Slipknot or Killswitch Engage are considered Nu Metal or not.


I am surprised there is not one show dedicated to extreme death/black metal genre

I know K orn is, I don't think KSE or Slipknot fall into Nu-Metal.

As for extreme/black metal, he did already kinda do that mini-doc on black metal.

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Anybody know what else Dunn is working on?

Last I heard he's got a documentary on Alice Cooper in the works.

Metal Misfit wrote:

I'm watching as the episodes are getting posted on VH1 Classic's Facebook page. Good series but the problem is they simply can't devote enough time to any of these scenes. There's so much to be said, so many bands to cover... They could expand each episode into an entire season.

Anybody know what else Dunn is working on? I imagine he's not going to keep making rock/metal documentaries for the rest of his life.

He is working on a docu with Alice Cooper about his career.

Fat Freddy wrote:

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Anybody know what else Dunn is working on?

Last I heard he's got a documentary on Alice Cooper in the works.

Damn I posted this the same time you did

Alice! Awesome!

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

manny wrote:

I am not fan of nu metal outside of handful bands, actually I am not sure if bands like K orn, Slipknot or Killswitch Engage are considered Nu Metal or not.


I am surprised there is not one show dedicated to extreme death/black metal genre

I know K orn is, I don't think KSE or Slipknot fall into Nu-Metal.

As for extreme/black metal, he did already kinda do that mini-doc on black metal.

Yes on the bonus disc on Headbanger's Journey, I am sure he may done one for VH1 but Gorguts and Mayhem is not exactly mainstream Eddie Trunk type of metal VH1 caters to and maybe he did one and will included in the DVD release, if this ever gets released on DVd/Blu Ray

"Headbanger's Journey" still gets played on VH1 Classic pretty regularly so anyone with a jones for the black metal church burners can get their fix from their portion of that movie.

I remember when my wife and I first watched that flick on VH1C a couple of years ago, she was visibly disturbed by the segment featuring Gaahl from Gorgoroth. (Dunn: "What does black metal mean to you?" Gaahl: (pause) "Satan.") Haha.

Fat Freddy wrote:

"Headbanger's Journey" still gets played on VH1 Classic pretty regularly so anyone with a jones for the black metal church burners can get their fix from their portion of that movie.

I remember when my wife and I first watched that flick on VH1C a couple of years ago, she was visibly disturbed by the segment featuring Gaahl from Gorgoroth. (Dunn: "What does black metal mean to you?" Gaahl: (pause) "Satan.") Haha.

More disturbing developments regarding Gaahl of Gorgoroth:


In July 2008, Gaahl revealed in an online interview that he was involved in the creation of Wynjo, an upcoming fashion collection for women, together with Norwegian modeling agent Dan De Vero and designer Sonja Wu.[10][11] At the same time, it was also revealed that he and De Vero had a "close relationship" since 2006.[10][11] It was stated that they were no longer a couple but remained as good friends. In an interview for the November 2008 issue of Rock Hard, Gaahl confirmed his homosexuality.[12]

Shortly thereafter, De Vero stated that he had received threats from various black metal fans, both at his door and by phone and email.[13] It was also alleged that a fight had erupted backstage at Wacken Open Air, triggered by homophobic remarks. Allegedly, the person who made the remarks had to be hospitalised.[12] However, Gaahl denied that anyone had ever "said anything derogatory" to him in person.[12] When asked by the webzine FaceCulture if he thinks people will see him and his music differently now that he has publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, Gaahl replied:

I am not disturbed that he is g ay, I could careless but the fact that he is a fashion designer, I know nothing about the latest Paris fashions and maybe its just me, but he does not strike me as a fashion designer:

manny wrote:

I am not fan of nu metal outside of handful bands, actually I am not sure if bands like K orn, Slipknot or Killswitch Engage are considered Nu Metal or not.


I am surprised there is not one show dedicated to extreme death/black metal genre

There was likely some kind of negotiation between the film producers and VH1 Classic and death metal and black metal were casualties of that. Unfortunate.

I don't care for nu metal but I'm looking forward to the episode focusing on it. The glam episode was refreshing to me, probably because it's not going over stuff I already know so well and maybe nu metal will be similar. I think Dunn said he was also most surprised by the nu metal episode because it forced him to move a bit beyond his comfort zone and really grapple with this stuff instead of just dismissing it as a fan.

Fat Freddy wrote:

"Headbanger's Journey" still gets played on VH1 Classic pretty regularly so anyone with a jones for the black metal church burners can get their fix from their portion of that movie.

I remember when my wife and I first watched that flick on VH1C a couple of years ago, she was visibly disturbed by the segment featuring Gaahl from Gorgoroth. (Dunn: "What does black metal mean to you?" Gaahl: (pause) "Satan.") Haha.

Yeah, some of it looked like an act - from the way he dressed, to the blood red wine, to his dramatic pause with sip of wine between "what does black metal mean to you" and his answer. Granted, the guy probably hates anything to do with God, but a lot of that seemed to be all for the performance, with him acting like he was high priest of as worldwide satanic cult.

Funny how some of those musicians claim God and/or the Chrisitian Bible is B/S but they hail "satan"

Supposedly homosexuality was the ultimate way of going against the Church.

kmorg wrote:

Supposedly homosexuality was the ultimate way of going against the Church.

That's a rather odd way of saying "Ooooh, that dang Church! I'll show THEM!"

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he does not strike me as a fashion designer:

Awwww, c'mon. The drippy corpse paint totally brings out the color in his eyes. And wow, that boy can accessorize. The matching spiked belt/gauntlet combination is simply the ginchiest!

Fat Freddy wrote:

kmorg wrote:

Supposedly homosexuality was the ultimate way of going against the Church.

That's a rather odd way of saying "Ooooh, that dang Church! I'll show THEM!"

Never said they were smart though

OT: Saw the first episode in this series last night. Found it interesting, and look forward to follow it with future episodes.

Just watched the grunge episode. I like that they gave the Fastbacks some face time. I also like that Jack Endino got to set the record straight about "grunge" dying when Cobain killed himself. One of those strange re-writings of history. At the time of his suicide Nirvana was in shambles and In Utero was a huge disappointment in sales. Most people I knew who had jumped onto the grunge bandwagon had moved on to Stone Temple Pilots and Smashing Pumpkins by then.

No idea what Nickelback or Creed had to do with anything. At first I thought my DVR had over-lapped into another show.

I'm surprised the fashion industry hasn't done the black metal thing. It's actually a smart career move for Gaahl. I could actually see that catching on. And it's certainly no worse than some of the fashions they've presented. I always wonder if anyone actually ever buys or wears that stuff.

Trying to watch the grunge episode but I had to turn it off. Not in the mood for that pretentious garbage tonight.