The Megadeth thread

What label are they even on at this point? Aren't they on an indie label that gets distribution via Universal? With a distribution-only deal I can't figure out how Dave hasn't been able to wrangle total artistic control.

Anyway, you guys believe Dave, I think he's making excuses. It's all speculation at this point so I guess we'll wait and see what happens next.

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What label are they even on at this point?

The last album Super Collider was released via Dave's own "Tradecraft" label imprint, thru Universal.

S.D. wrote:

Anyway, you guys believe Dave, I think he's making excuses.   

Nope.  I said it's possible.

But it's a great question as to what label he could possibly be referring to. Who runs Tradecraft, or whatever?

S.D. wrote:

What label are they even on at this point?  Aren't they on an indie label that gets distribution via Universal?  With a distribution-only deal I can't figure out how Dave hasn't been able to wrangle total artistic control.  

Anyway, you guys believe Dave, I think he's making excuses.  It's all speculation at this point so I guess we'll wait and see what happens next.  

What happens next is that Megadeth will release an album. Some will like it, some will hate it. Some will claim it's a "return-to-form", some will say it's trite garbage. Some will listen once on Spotify and pass. Some won't bother listening at all since it's not 1987 anymore. You know the drill.

Dave said getting those two back in the band would be like putting rotten teeth back in your mouth. He'd have to do a lot of lip service on my backside to get me back in the band if he said that kind of shit about me.

Eyesore wrote:

Dave said getting those two back in the band would be like putting rotten teeth back in your mouth. He'd have to do a lot of lip service on my backside to get me back in the band if he said that kind of shit about me.

I bet he wouldn't if he could give you cash and you had no career.

If he can patch things up with Ellefson then he can get past a few minor details with these two. I'd be very surprised about Marty though.

In most threads, Shawn (S.D) claims that the music climate of today is a singles market like it was in the 60's and 70's. He points to Itunes and the like for basis of debate, which is all good. A valid point. So then why is it a stretch to say that Megadeth would want a viable product for that said market ? Commom sense would dictate that a band releasing new music would kinda/sorta dig on having a "single" do well on Itunes or other digital "song" outlets. EVERYBODY knows that just about every band who was around in the 80's (or before) had their best days behind them and it's really silly to try to compare then and now. Its like any business, the model that worked 30 years ago isn't gonna fly today. In my eyes, the industry becoming artists and bands just releasing a song at a time is a probable outcome. The old adage of throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

As far as Megadeth goes, there is still some great music being written and I find myself listening to the albums released in the past 10 years than the ones in the first 10. Don't get me wrong, I dig those older albums cause of the special vibe each one had. Angry, doped up Dave was special and we all loved him. Clean and sober Dave is a different animal but still retains attributes that touch base on such subjective terms as "genius", "clown", and "lunatic"

Whoa James, nice dissertation.

I'm enjoying the discussions in this thread. Best one here in a long time.

I'll post more thoughts later.

It is a singles market....if you're Katy Perry, Bruno Mars, Justin Timberlake, Selena Gomez, etc.

It is a singles market to the established bands and artists.

It's easier to look back on past mistakes and admit your wrongdoing than when you're in the moment. wrote:

Man that could be said for so much!!! Very well said!!

Its definitely a singles market, look at what Motley Crue are doing, they just release a random song here and there, they are not even going to bother to record an album of new material.

Regarding Dave's comments about all there albums pushkng for more commercial viability, I just listened to "endgame", and I can't really say there is an actual "radio single" on it. Its a vicious album front to back. Is be over the moon if that endgame is the style he's going for... Let alone an album of RIP-esq tunes. That being said I have enjoyed most of his output recent output. The last two records suffered a bit from having his vocals crush all the cool stuff the guitars are doing. A great example being "never dead". The rhythm guitars really get buried in that mix.

Here's an interesting quote from NAMM 2015 on the songwriting process for Megadeth's next studio album:

Mustaine: "I think because there's so much music that… I mean, there's music that I have saved from back around 'Peace Sells' era, 'So Far, So Good' era, stuff that I listen to it and I'm thinking, 'How the F*ck did I play that?' So I have to put it into a machine and listen and slow it down and scoop out all the noise in the background so I can hear what I was doing, 'cause it's mind blowing riffing. That is what is exciting for me right now.

All musicians are guilty of the whole "lip service" angle they take when conducting interviews, but I would like to think something like the quote above might take place. Here's the thing, the stuff from "So Far, So Good, So What" era could be replicated, but that stuff from "Peace Sells...But Who's Buying" was special for it's time. Gar's drum sound was unique and Chris Poland's playing complimented what Dave was writing at that time.

As long as you have a label backing you and paying for studio time, promotion, touring or basically giving you any kind of financial support, they are going to have an opinion on what the final product should or shouldn't sound like. It's not right or wrong, good or bad. It just is.

It's up to the band to decide if the want to listen to those opinions or just record an album of fart noises.

DevZor wrote:

Regarding Dave's comments about all there albums pushkng for more commercial viability, I just listened to "endgame", and I can't really say there is an actual "radio single" on it. Its a vicious album front to back. Is be over the moon if that endgame is the style he's going for... Let alone an album of RIP-esq  tunes.

I couldn't agree more.

Looks like Drover and Broderick have already inked a deal with Metal Blade for their own combo, which is called Act of Defiance...

Act of Defiance, huh? Was "F*ck MegaDave" already taken?

Fat Freddy wrote:

Looks like Drover and Broderick have already inked a deal with Metal Blade for their own combo, which is called Act of Defiance...

I heard the music. It sucks in my opinion.

choosemetal wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Looks like Drover and Broderick have already inked a deal with Metal Blade for their own combo, which is called Act of Defiance...

I heard the music. It sucks in my opinion.

Yea, I just checked out a snippet that was posted on Blabbermouth and sez "Zzzzzzzzz....check please," haha

choosemetal wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Looks like Drover and Broderick have already inked a deal with Metal Blade for their own combo, which is called Act of Defiance...

I heard the music. It sucks in my opinion.

Yep. It sounds like it should have been released in 2002.

Fat Freddy wrote:

choosemetal wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Looks like Drover and Broderick have already inked a deal with Metal Blade for their own combo, which is called Act of Defiance...

I heard the music. It sucks in my opinion.

Yea, I just checked out a snippet that was posted on Blabbermouth and sez "Zzzzzzzzz....check please," haha

If anyone is interested in why Mustaine did not allow these guys to contribute more to the songwriting process, wonder no more.

Drover and Broderick are both boring (machine like) players. I'm glad they're gone!