Judas Priest - Nostradamus - DID YOU BUY IT?

I'ved listened to it all the way through twice, and a few stop/starts during my comute - it's a grower. I like it better now than when I first heard it - I still think it shounds like andrew lloyd webber's nostradomus staring rob halford with additional music by judas priest!

ultmetal wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

I just picked up mine today. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet though...

Listening to this one again this morning. Still can't get the, "...you're a naughty one, Saucy Jack, you're a haughty one, Saucy Jack." thoughts out of my head.

candlemass wrote:

I think it's the most ambitious project they've ever undertaken, and is far from boring, but it doesn't surprise me that certain folk find it that way.

I thought the last Iced Earth, Manowar and Blind Guardian albums were boring too, while others were saying they were "the most ambitious project they've ever undertaken." Frankly, I think "concept albums" sometimes focus too much on the storyline and not enough on the songs. Complexity and adding in a bunch of orchestration doesn't necessarily make a good song IMO. Actually, these things tend to take away from my enjoyment of it most of the time.

I don't think it's a "bad" album. I've listed to it 5x since purchasing it last week, but it just doesn't grab me by the jugular like I expect Priest to. Sure, there is a few great songs, as ES said, but as a whole, it's too long, has too many odd little interludes and doesn't have even a full album full of the usual Priest-quality songs.

I'm looking at this as the "Music from the Elder" of the Priest catalog. It's an oddity that the band had to get out of their system. In the Priest catalog it will have people that love it and hate it, but overall, it will never be considered one of the band's best.

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Complexity and adding in a bunch of orchestration doesn't necessarily make a good song IMO. Actually, these things tend to take away from my enjoyment of it most of the time.

That's why I get bored with drawn out concept albums too. It's ambitious yeah, for them to attempt it at all is ambitious...but concept albums are tricky things...you don't just "decide" to do one. Iced Earth, Manowar, Kamelot, they sorta built up to it...JP went from being a straight, 10-song per album METAL band to suddenly trying to write a 2CD, orchestrated concept album...that's a huge leap, IMO. Kudos for trying, but what I've heard is boring.

But really, it's a perfect time for them to do this concept album. They just recently (kinda) got their big name singer back in the band and produced a pretty darn good comeback album. So if this one flops then the majority of people are still high from the return of Halford, and will rejoice at the return of the OG metal sound on their next album. I think it's a genius idea, but I haven't heard the results.

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thought the last Iced Earth, Manowar and Blind
Guardian albums were boring too, while others were saying they were
"the most ambitious project they've ever undertaken." Frankly, I think
"concept albums" sometimes focus too much on the storyline and not
enough on the songs. Complexity and adding in a bunch of orchestration
doesn't necessarily make a good song IMO. Actually, these things tend
to take away from my enjoyment of it most of the time.

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Iced Earth, Manowar and Blind
Guardian

Like, don't have, Love...so mabye this new Priest is for me??

If I see it used somewhere for like 6 dollars I will pick it up. I'm not really excited about this based on what I've heard and fan reaction.

TrogDawn wrote:

I gave it my first full listen today and I found it really interesting. I'll have to sit down and hear all of the lyrics to get the whole story though. Aside from Halford's voice, I don't think it sounds like Priest much at all until the get to the title track, which is the next to the last cut on disc 2. I really like all of the ambient interludes and the way it feels like they pace themselves until they get to the end instead of the usual balls out of the gate style they use. I wasn't all that thrilled with AoR, so to me, this is a really cool change of pace for them. I think it will be a grower and will probably get more airtime than AoR has in my player.

that's how i felt. there is a whole lot of metal on this mutha... but it's spaced out. it's definitely a grower. you need to give it many spins in order to fully appreciate it.

mc666 wrote:

that's how i felt. there is a whole lot of metal on this mutha... but it's spaced out. it's definitely a grower. you need to give it many spins in order to fully appreciate it.

That's spot on, that is why I've been playing this so much lately.

TrogDawn wrote:

Hey DB, is that Zooey Deschanel in your sig? She's such a babe.

You are right on the money. IMO, the most beautiful woman I've ever laid eyes on. I can barely watch Hitchikers Guide The Galaxy without longing for her (pathetic I know), that is the first time I noticed her (the first movie I saw her in was Mumford, but she was only 17 in that movie so I overlooked her). In another world maybe I'd have a shot with her but as the old saying goes, "If 'ifs' and buts were candy and nuts. We'd all have a jolly good time."

If ifs and buts meant Zooey on my nuts, I'd have a jolly good time.


That is really inappropriate. But I enjoyed typing it.

Zooey D. was cute as Hell in "Hitchhiker's Guide" (one of my fave books, great film too!)

Her sister Emily (who's on the TV show "Bones") ain't too bad neither.

Back on topic: Dang it, I still haven't bought "Nostradamus!" Maybe over the weekend!!

Back off topic real quick.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Zooey D. was cute as Hell in "Hitchhiker's Guide" (one of my fave books, great film

Her sister Emily (who's on the TV show "Bones") ain't too bad neither.

That's her sister!!!!!!!!! Damn, beautiful eyes must run in the family. I've never seen "Bones" but i've seen the previews for the show and I must say, "Hubba, hubba!!!"

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If ifs and buts meant Zooey on my nuts, I'd have a jolly good time.

Don't talk that way about my woman boy!!!! :kickbutt:

DallasBlack wrote:

Don't talk that way about my woman boy!!!! :kickbutt:

You're right. I wouldn't want anyone talking to Winona or Kristin that way. My apologies.

Don't worry guys, after the tour I bet we'll hear a Halford solo album!

For now, I would probably give Nostradamus a 6.5. The 1st disc is definately my favourite of the 2 so far. A bit of a spotty release, but still, the genius of Priest is quite prominent at places. Plus it's always faschinating how Priest manage to reinvent themselves time and time again and find new avenues with their music.

I really like AoR, but this one is clearly off the beaten path for Priest and I find it refreshing, it's also quite good, but it's a moody lp, and me being a moody person it suits me fine!

Chairman_Smith wrote:

Don't worry guys, after the tour I bet we'll hear a Halford solo album!

the band are on smoking form i must say

ultmetal wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

I just picked up mine today. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet though...

Listening to this one again this morning. Still can't get the, "...you're a naughty one, Saucy Jack, you're a haughty one, Saucy Jack." thoughts out of my head.

So now that everyone has had this thing for a bit of time, is everyone still loving it? Hating it? Given up on it?

I still haven't gotten NOSTRADAMUS!! Pathetic isn't it??

DallasBlack wrote:

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If ifs and buts meant Zooey on my nuts, I'd have a jolly good time.

Don't talk that way about my woman boy!!!! :kickbutt:

DB, it's time you found yourself a real girlfriend. You are at an age where it gets a bit weird to fantasize about girls on-screen. It's all an illusion. A bit creepy actually. What the hell happened to this thread?

Back to the topic. I still can't get into this JP album, no matter how much I try to. Like I said before, if most of the crap was cut and it was on one cd with the mostly rockers, it would be much more enjoyable. Anyone seen the new video that was on Headbanger's Ball? Man was it cheesy.

i've totally given up on it, i've listened to it about 15 -16 (maybe more) times and still can't get away with it.
i don't think this one will ever grow on me.
it'll be the only priest album with halford i don't enjoy.

Boring!

Wargod48

Saucy Jack indeed!