Nightwish probably sucks!

They're the only female fronted band I like. Well, Arch Enemy, but Angela hardly sounds female.

i'm not keen because i'm not really into that operatic female singing style. i like it when the ladies just belt it out

I would like to kill this band. But I've only heard 2 songs.

One of the best bands doing the rounds these days. I like Anette more so then Tarja. IMO they have done something new and fresh, a bit like Metallica did. How many bands do you see NOW with female singers trying to cash in.

I tried them didn't like them. Moved on....

DallasBlack wrote:

tohostudios wrote:

Listen to Wishmaster then Dark Passion Play to see why I went from loving this band to hating them.

I still can't see sorry. I love everything they've done (Angels Fall First a little less than the others) and yes they have some longer songs but the album still has 10 songs less than or equal to 6 minutes (only one eqal to). There are 3 songs over 7 minutes (the longest one at 13:54, one at 7:10 and one at 7:03) which is hardly an extravagance except the first track and everyone from Maiden to Iced Earth have done songs at that length. It doesn't matter to me that you don't like it, I respect your decision not to like it, and I have no doubt that you don't, but I believe you are exaggerating way too much about the length.

BTW, Oceanborn is my favortie.

I bring up song length because for me, the number one thing I look for in music is memorability and it's a rare songwriter that can pen a 6+ minute song that is still memorable. Royal Hunt, Shadow Gallery, Pink Floyd are examples of bands that seem to be able to do this consistently. Unfortunately, to my ears, Tuomas doesn't have this talent most of the time. The longer his songs are, the less I find I remember about them.

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

tohostudios wrote:

Listen to Wishmaster then Dark Passion Play to see why I went from loving this band to hating them.

I still can't see sorry. I love everything they've done (Angels Fall First a little less than the others) and yes they have some longer songs but the album still has 10 songs less than or equal to 6 minutes (only one eqal to). There are 3 songs over 7 minutes (the longest one at 13:54, one at 7:10 and one at 7:03) which is hardly an extravagance except the first track and everyone from Maiden to Iced Earth have done songs at that length. It doesn't matter to me that you don't like it, I respect your decision not to like it, and I have no doubt that you don't, but I believe you are exaggerating way too much about the length.

BTW, Oceanborn is my favortie.

I bring up song length because for me, the number one thing I look for in music is memorability and it's a rare songwriter that can pen a 6+ minute song that is still memorable. Royal Hunt, Shadow Gallery, Pink Floyd are examples of bands that seem to be able to do this consistently. Unfortunately, to my ears, Tuomas doesn't have this talent most of the time. The longer his songs are, the less I find I remember about them.

I certainly can understand that. Neal Morse is one of my favorite prog artists and while I like his last album, with all but one song over 20 minutes it doesn't leave me wanting to listen to it very often.

I'll never like them....

I got a used copy of the WISHMASTER disc some years back to satisfy my curiosity after hearing lotsa hype about'em . It bored me to tears, I traded it back to the same used-CD store within a week. Sorry, ain't my thang.

On the other hand, I love Lacuna Coil. Go figure.

Fat Freddy wrote:

On the other hand, I love Lacuna Coil. Go figure.

That's just the opposite of me. I love Nighwish but Lacuna Coil bores me.

DallasBlack wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

On the other hand, I love Lacuna Coil. Go figure.

That's just the opposite of me. I love Nighwish but Lacuna Coil bores me.

i would like both bands a whole lot more if the male "singers" would shut the hell up. they are no good.

Nightwish seems to be like olives you love em or you hate em

DallasBlack wrote:

thewalkofman wrote:

Tall Tyrion wrote:

I find them to be very forgettable.

they must suck

I'd say don't knock 'em until you try 'em. As I stated earlier this is a band that divides many people (kind of like Trivium and Dragonforce) so you really don't know unless you hear them yourself.

ugh Dragonforce thats a terrible band

Black_Mage wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

thewalkofman wrote:

Tall Tyrion wrote:

I find them to be very forgettable.

they must suck

I'd say don't knock 'em until you try 'em. As I stated earlier this is a band that divides many people (kind of like Trivium and Dragonforce) so you really don't know unless you hear them yourself.

ugh Dragonforce thats a terrible band

Case in point.

oh i absolutley love Nightwish to bits but fair play if you dont like them as they do seem to be one of those bands you either love or hate like marmite.

personally i like everything they have done and i went to see them last thursday

i like to think of them as not being a metal band in the typical sense which i think is why they put off some people but for people who are more open minded them they are cool i think becuase you certainly do need an open mind if all you listened to was death metal for example.

currently i am listening to Nightwish (coincidence) and the song Nemo from the Once album and it is awesome

so to conclude i love Nightwish if you cant tell

Not to beat a dead horse, but I have a question for you Nightwish haters. The comments seem to go beyond the realm of not liking a band's music. There must be an underlying reason and I'm just curious at to what. Is it because they are receiving mainstream recognition while a band you really think deserves it is not? Is it that you hate symphonic music and don't like the fact that it has infiltrated the metal world? Do you believe that Nightwish is so horrible that it deserves more hatred than Britney Spears or N'sync? Or (and I suspect this is the case for our own Uncle Saxon), do you not really give a damn and your just bad mouthing them because you know it will get a rise out of somebody? Just curious.

DallasBlack wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but I have a question for you Nightwish haters. The comments seem to go beyond the realm of not liking a band's music. There must be an underlying reason and I'm just curious at to what. Is it because they are receiving mainstream recognition while a band you really think deserves it is not? Is it that you hate symphonic music and don't like the fact that it has infiltrated the metal world? Do you believe that Nightwish is so horrible that it deserves more hatred than Britney Spears or N'sync? Or (and I suspect this is the case for our own Uncle Saxon), do you not really give a damn and your just bad mouthing them because you know it will get a rise out of somebody? Just curious.

Mmmm....nah. Just think they're boring, that's all.

When I first heard'em they weren't getting any "mainstream recognition" yet. Even if they were, that wouldn't have made much diff to me, I don't think.

thats it freddy is officialy disowned

Fat Freddy wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but I have a question for you Nightwish haters. The comments seem to go beyond the realm of not liking a band's music. There must be an underlying reason and I'm just curious at to what. Is it because they are receiving mainstream recognition while a band you really think deserves it is not? Is it that you hate symphonic music and don't like the fact that it has infiltrated the metal world? Do you believe that Nightwish is so horrible that it deserves more hatred than Britney Spears or N'sync? Or (and I suspect this is the case for our own Uncle Saxon), do you not really give a damn and your just bad mouthing them because you know it will get a rise out of somebody? Just curious.

Mmmm....nah. Just think they're boring, that's all.

When I first heard'em they weren't getting any "mainstream recognition" yet. Even if they were, that wouldn't have made much diff to me, I don't think.

Your comment I was perfectly fine with because you had a legitamite reason. My question is directed to those who say stuff like "they suck" or "I hate them" without giving any reason.

i currently have every nightwish cd i own loaded in my five cd changer. put it on shuffle and it makes for one hell of a listen

DallasBlack wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but I have a question for you Nightwish haters. The comments seem to go beyond the realm of not liking a band's music. There must be an underlying reason and I'm just curious at to what. Is it because they are receiving mainstream recognition while a band you really think deserves it is not? Is it that you hate symphonic music and don't like the fact that it has infiltrated the metal world? Do you believe that Nightwish is so horrible that it deserves more hatred than Britney Spears or N'sync? Or (and I suspect this is the case for our own Uncle Saxon), do you not really give a damn and your just bad mouthing them because you know it will get a rise out of somebody? Just curious.

Mmmm....nah. Just think they're boring, that's all.

When I first heard'em they weren't getting any "mainstream recognition" yet. Even if they were, that wouldn't have made much diff to me, I don't think.

Your comment I was perfectly fine with because you had a legitamite reason. My question is directed to those who say stuff like "they suck" or "I hate them" without giving any reason.

I already gave my reasons.

can we please not start this tit fir tat children its boring

spectrefate wrote:

I'm guessing you really don't give a crap and are just trying to get a rise out of someone. Don't you got anything better to do?

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spectrefate wrote:

I'm guessing you really don't give a crap and are just trying to get a rise out of someone. Don't you got anything better to do?

No, I just don't give a crap about you.

I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone. Most of us are adults here and realize people have differing opinions.

Move along.