Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:20 am
Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
Robin Williams was terminally ill. He didn't kill himself because of depression.
Btw… you obviously are very naive to the fact comedians are some of the biggest victims of depression!
What a weird presumptive comment. Where did I say that?
I only said Robin Williams didn't kill himself because of depression.
Robin Williams' widow says it wasn't depression that led actor to take his life
Robin Williams' son opens up about father's mental health, saying the star was "frustrated" and "very uncomfortable" before his death
His quality of life became so bad because of Lewy body disease, he felt dying was easier.
Iron Maiden stopped playing Tears of a Clown on tour after more details of Williams came out, and the "sad clown" narrative was debunked. They didn't want to disrespect him and Steve Harris probably felt a little embarrassed for assuming he knew what had gone down.
Are you aware that sometimes even those closest to us don’t know everything. His wife didn’t either.
So you know better? Wow. That's arrogant of you.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:54 am
Refer back to Wrecked Neck’s last post…
Move on.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:15 pm
Great new “Talk Toomey” podcast with Andreas Kisser.
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:03 am
I wonder what's next for Metal Church.
Will Ronny ever make a comeback?
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:14 pm
Gilbert wrote:
I wonder what's next for Metal Church.
Will Ronny ever make a comeback?
Kinda hope if they continue on, that they go with someone else. I saw them on the Generation Nothing tour, and he was decent, but something about him bugged me. Plus maybe a fresh new singer will keep the edge they gained when Mike came back.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:50 pm
I don't think continuing is the first thing on their minds right now.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:48 pm
That’s a heavy metal death. For sure.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:50 pm
I've read a few interviews w/Vanderhoof over the years where he said the only reason MC continued after Ronny Munroe left was because Mike Howe was willing to come back. He told Mike something like, "I really don't want to do this with anyone but you."
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:06 pm
Yeah, I'd like to see Metal Church just fade away into the history of metal.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:40 pm
At least we got two extra albums with Mike Howe.
I think it’s time to let go…
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:17 pm
Troublezone wrote:
At least we got two extra albums with Mike Howe.
I think it’s time to let go…
Don't forget the new songs they released in 2020.
Great tracks which confirmed that MC still has the potential to deliver solid metal.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:18 pm
Lari wrote:
I don't think continuing is the first thing on their minds right now.
Definitely, i was only thinking out loud.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 am
Troublezone wrote:
At least we got two extra albums with Mike Howe.
And I don't own those! I have stuff to discover!
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:34 pm
Ronny Munroe's statement about Mike Howe:
"What a tragedy. Quick story: I met Mike and hung out with him one time, I think it was in 2006. He came out to Reno, Nevada and we shared the stage and we did the song 'Date With Poverty' together. After the gig, we all went to a club, had some drinks, sat and talked shop. He was a sweetheart. I never heard anyone say anything bad about the guy. What a tragic loss. You never know what is going on with people, I feel really bad, I know he has a couple of sons and that is devastating. I wish the family the best and I send my condolences out to all of Mike's family, friends and fans."
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:23 pm
mc666 wrote:
Damn shame. Blessing in Disguise & The Human Factor were my second and third favorite Church albums.
Edit: I wonder if Kurdt will continue MC as well. I Know Billy has said ZZ will continue already.
Kurt has said in the past that if Mike hadn' tcome back, he wouldn't have continued with Metal Church so my guess is MC is done for good.
Sorry, just saw Freddy already posted this.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:54 pm
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
At least we got two extra albums with Mike Howe.
And I don't own those! I have stuff to discover!
Their 2016 release, XI is a top 3 album of their's for me.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:14 pm
Big Rich wrote:
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
At least we got two extra albums with Mike Howe.
And I don't own those! I have stuff to discover!
Their 2016 release, XI is a top 3 album of their's for me.
It's a great album.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:07 pm
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Sounds to me like they are blaming big pharma of giving him drugs without much therapy to help him deal. The drugs they give for depression can actually make things worse, and often times it takes several trials or different drugs to find one that helps. Even then, you can be on one for years that helps, then all of a sudden it stops working and the doctors end up changing things around. That process can also make things very hard on the person taking the medications. This part here:
Very true. I once had a guy who had just started taking antidepressants stand in front of my train. I'll never forget the cops saying "well they were supposed to keep him from wanting to do this, not give him the courage to do it".
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:02 pm
If you go deep down the rabbit hole, you'll soon see most if not all those mass shooters are hopped up on Big Pharma.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:33 am
Got the “Damned If You Do” cd free from Amazon.
It came with a light scratch, and I was gonna exchange it for another one… but they said keep it and gave a full refund.
Awesome album btw!
Such a shame it’s the last with Mike. His voice was still stellar after 20 years of no music. I think he would of also fit perfect in Accept.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:51 am
Troublezone wrote:
Got the “Damned If You Do” cd free from Amazon.
It came with a light scratch, and I was gonna exchange it for another one… but they said keep it and gave a full refund.
Awesome album btw!
Such a shame it’s the last with Mike. His voice was still stellar after 20 years of no music. I think he would of also fit perfect in Accept.
Great album indeed. I need to give it a fresh spin.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:38 pm
Troublezone wrote:
Got the “Damned If You Do” cd free from Amazon.
It came with a light scratch, and I was gonna exchange it for another one… but they said keep it and gave a full refund.
Awesome album btw!
Such a shame it’s the last with Mike. His voice was still stellar after 20 years of no music. I think he would of also fit perfect in Accept.
Amazon is so funny. They sent me shit I didn't order once and wanted me to set up shipping it back at my cost, I told them to fuck off, then they told me to just keep it and ended up sending me a second one after refunding me the money for the first one lol
That is a great album, I was listening to it a couple days ago. I liked all three of their newer albums with Mike singing though.
Love that Pro-Pain album you have as your avatar btw. Don't see them mentioned much these days.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Got the “Damned If You Do” cd free from Amazon.
It came with a light scratch, and I was gonna exchange it for another one… but they said keep it and gave a full refund.
Awesome album btw!
Such a shame it’s the last with Mike. His voice was still stellar after 20 years of no music. I think he would of also fit perfect in Accept.
Amazon is so funny. They sent me shit I didn't order once and wanted me to set up shipping it back at my cost, I told them to fuck off, then they told me to just keep it and ended up sending me a second one after refunding me the money for the first one lol
That is a great album, I was listening to it a couple days ago. I liked all three of their newer albums with Mike singing though.
Love that Pro-Pain album you have as your avatar btw. Don't see them mentioned much these days.
The recent Mike Howe albums are very similar to where they left off with The Human Factor. Great stuff!
I love Pro-Pain’s first album! I played it nonstop when I got it as a new release on cassette. “Contents Under Pressure” is another great one!
As you may know… Gary (the vocalist) was brutally attacked in Europe a few years ago. On their website the band was still playing some shows before Covid, so I assume he’s okay and they should have a new album coming sometime in the near future.
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Subject: Re: R.I.P. Mike Howe of Metal Church Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:43 pm
Wasn't even aware they were still around. I'll have too do some YouTube research and check out their newer stuff. I have, Contents, Taste of Freedom, and Truth Hurts on CD, but kinda lost track of them. I love all three of those albums and still put them on once in a while.