Unorthodox Metal Opinions?

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

I don't know how unorthodox this is, but this is my favorite Stryper song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQXONftaKY

This song has just made me a Stryper fan - finally it "clicked".

Against the Law is an incredible album, even though it's a bit uneven (they visit several different subgenres). All for One was quite an anthem but you should hear their rendition of Shining Star; a bit cheesy but it rocks hard. This is all coming from one who does not care for Stryper.

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

I don't know how unorthodox this is, but this is my favorite Stryper song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQXONftaKY

This song has just made me a Stryper fan - finally it "clicked".

Great song.

My other favorite off that album:

ultmetal wrote:

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

I don't know how unorthodox this is, but this is my favorite Stryper song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQXONftaKY

This song has just made me a Stryper fan - finally it "clicked".

Great song.

My other favorite off that album:

That one is great, too. I also love the title track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3w7QmqezM

ultmetal wrote:

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

I don't know how unorthodox this is, but this is my favorite Stryper song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQXONftaKY

This song has just made me a Stryper fan - finally it "clicked".

Great song.

My other favorite off that album:

I'm never gonna like this, it's just not my thing, but I really can respect it as they are talented guys who have come a long way IMHO since they started and I really hated them.

Alex Dee Rokket wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

I've got one..

Steve Tucker Morbid Angel > Vincent Morbid Angel. 'Formulas..' is probably their best record.

I can see this. Tucker had a scary scary vocal, truly menacing low end. I like MA either way. Vincent's vocals have this awesome sickening/violent current that I enjoy a bit more. Musically speaking, I prefer the constant speed of the Vincent albums. Later albums got a little muckier. Either way, best death metal ever created (perhaps that's my unorthodox opinion). Covenant's my favorite album; I still get goosebumps listening to Angel of Disease.

I can agree with this. I like the Tucker era better. I must admit that my favorite Morbid Angel album is Gateways to Annihilation which I hold as one of their best if not their best album. It is imo also a death metal gem that is far too underappreciated.

I 100% I loved their first four albums, and prefer David Vincent era, but it could be I prefer that era because I saw that line up several times live.

Boris2008 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

I don't know how unorthodox this is, but this is my favorite Stryper song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQXONftaKY

This song has just made me a Stryper fan - finally it "clicked".

Great song.

My other favorite off that album:

I'm never gonna like this, it's just not my thing, but I really can respect it as they are talented guys who have come a long way IMHO since they started and I really hated them.

Yeah they and WASP sounded practically identical in the beginning.

I'm probably like most people where I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint, and there were no ballads.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

I'm probably like most people where I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint, and there were no ballads.

I like "Lady" from Against the Law. Other than that, not a fan of their ballads.

While I agree with Stryper and Saint in their beliefs, as I am a Christian, neither one of them were the best lyricists available in Christian metal. That being said, Saint's "Sinnerpeace" is one of their best songs lyrically, IMHO.

Unable to resist the guitarwork. Simply. Can't.
Back to topic, "Port Royal" is THE Running Wild album, with instrumental "Final Gates" being one of the best tracks they've ever recorded.
Fifth Angel's "Time Will Tell" is better than the s\t.
Exciter became listenable from Long Live the Loud, OTT album is the best of theirs.
Last but not least, Vicious Rumors lost the magic after mighty Carl Albert dramatically died. Their post work fails to grab me at all.

As long as we're talking about before ATL, yes, they wrote horrid ballads drenched in keyboards goo, and their lyrics are the biggest turn off for me. In fact, Sing-Along Song spoiled the entire To Hell with the Devil batch. When I heard that song I nearly kicked my boombox. I doubt there's anything more insipid written in Christian metal. And let's not forget Reason for the Season. Blegh.

My biggest problem with Stryper will always be how they dumbed everything down. The music was just too simple and boneheaded. Perhaps if there was a punkier attitude to go along with the five or six power chords, tiny riffs, lame poeticism, and pretty melodies, I'd dig it some, but it really is way to squeaky clean to the point of bad taste.

I'm so glad other bands like Bloodgood, Barren Cross, and later Holy Soldier got the grasp of this.

Yeah, when they really try and they turn on some power metal like 'Soldiers Under Command' (the song, which is my favorite Stryper song) it's like YESSSSSSSSSSSS and then.........other songs.


I don't know if 'Port Royal' is THE THE THE Running Wild record, although it destroys, but the Rolf/Majk Moti guitar duo IMO is one of the best there's ever been in metal. It's too bad it only lasted 4 records. Perfect example of exactly what to do if you are gonna have dual leads. Just perfect leads. Another duo in that school is Olaf Thorsen/Andrea Cantarelli (Labyrinth).

Soldiers Under Command is really the only pre-ATL song I like; decent riffing.

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I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint

I understand what you mean. But I can take the cheese dick lyrics from guys dressed up like bumblebees way before grown men with Fantastic Sam's haircuts in leather and spikes.

SpectreFate wrote:

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I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint

I understand what you mean. But I can take the cheese dick lyrics from guys dressed up like bumblebees way before grown men with Fantastic Sam's haircuts in leather and spikes.

Regarding the latter, are you referring to those who are TR00??

corplhicks wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint

I understand what you mean. But I can take the cheese dick lyrics from guys dressed up like bumblebees way before grown men with Fantastic Sam's haircuts in leather and spikes.

Regarding the latter, are you referring to those who are TR00??

These guys:

Why...yes. Yes, you are right.

SpectreFate wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint

I understand what you mean. But I can take the cheese dick lyrics from guys dressed up like bumblebees way before grown men with Fantastic Sam's haircuts in leather and spikes.

Regarding the latter, are you referring to those who are TR00??

These guys:

I love there sound but that cover deserves to go in the "bad album covers are like fine art" thread. Man do they look dorky there.

DevZor wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

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I would like Stryper so much more if their lyrics were at least on the level of Saint

I understand what you mean. But I can take the cheese dick lyrics from guys dressed up like bumblebees way before grown men with Fantastic Sam's haircuts in leather and spikes.

Regarding the latter, are you referring to those who are TR00??

These guys:

I love there sound but that cover deserves to go in the "bad album covers are like fine art" thread. Man do they look dorky there.

The reissued cover is one million times better.

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

The reissued cover is one million times better.

THIS is a million times better.

From a Christian music review site (hopefully no one reading this): "It also must be mentioned the new album artwork, which, appropriately, reflects a “medieval battle flair”. Many have complained that the artwork to the original, in which the group’s portrait is placed over a nuclear explosion in the background, was cheesy. To be honest, I kind of liked it."

I keep hearing in this thread about Pantera's early glam work, and now I'm curious since I've never heard anything before Cowboys. Think I know what I'll be hearing tonight (along with Slayer, of course).

Got another one to add: Voivod. Voivod is decent, but I can't stand Nothingface and keep scratching my head as to why it's considered a masterpiece (although I do enjoy Astronomy Domine).

Not an opinion, but an observation of my own tastes. I've grown bored with death metal. I can't seem to get into most new stuff thrown my way and I rarely listen to the old stuff.

ultmetal wrote:

Not an opinion, but an observation of my own tastes. I've grown bored with death metal. I can't seem to get into most new stuff thrown my way and I rarely listen to the old stuff.

I like some newer death bands (I like to rock Nile every once in a while), but I prefer the older, earlier death bands. They actually had some memorable riffs. The vocals can get monotonous, though.

I love love love Augury. For the most part, a lot of death metal which is being cranked out lately is overproduced and overbr00tal and super stock artwork and stock riffs and stock everything.