The offical Kiss thread

A dude told you that he was gonna download YOUR album for free? Do these illegal downloaders realize what they're doing?

As for Monster, I'm really liking it now after listening about 5 times. I first I didn't like "Freak", but it's grown on me. I think my fave Paul track is "Shout Mercy." Really digging that tune. I like "Take Me Down Below' a lot too. I like the trading off of vocals between Paul and Gene and the chorus sticks in my head.

I also think Eric and Tommy this time were more "comfortable" being in the Catman and Spacman characters.

ultmetal wrote:

jstate wrote:

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And let's be honest, all the illegal downloading in music has made people far less appreciative of music

I've always contended the record industry's focus on singles and not albums is what ultimately dooms them. They conditioned the public to only care about "hits". Then when they can just download that one song why are they going to buy a whole album. I know more than a few people who think it is really weird that my ipod is filled with albums and not just random playlist of only songs I like. It's completely mystifying to them that I might actually like and listen to a whole album. .

Seems to be the state of things right now. I've seen that too. People only care about hits.

In fact, I received a PM from someone who asked about the new Ultimatum songs and said they weren't buying the CD but were going to wait until they could just download it for free. When I replied that he could pay to download them on Amazon and that downloading them for free was stealing, the reply back was, "How do you figure that?" Hmmm...are people really that oblivious?

yep. The 'get it for free' mentality is rampant all over the place.

exact33 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

jstate wrote:

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And let's be honest, all the illegal downloading in music has made people far less appreciative of music

I've always contended the record industry's focus on singles and not albums is what ultimately dooms them. They conditioned the public to only care about "hits". Then when they can just download that one song why are they going to buy a whole album. I know more than a few people who think it is really weird that my ipod is filled with albums and not just random playlist of only songs I like. It's completely mystifying to them that I might actually like and listen to a whole album. .

Seems to be the state of things right now. I've seen that too. People only care about hits.

In fact, I received a PM from someone who asked about the new Ultimatum songs and said they weren't buying the CD but were going to wait until they could just download it for free. When I replied that he could pay to download them on Amazon and that downloading them for free was stealing, the reply back was, "How do you figure that?" Hmmm...are people really that oblivious?

yep. The 'get it for free' mentality is rampant all over the place.

With the length of my wantlist and the limits of funds, I'd love to just overflow my computer with free music. However, I have more love and respect for the bands that provide it to do that. Sometimes having a conscience is a tough burden to bear .

I'll admit, I downloaded a lot of music from Limewire before it got shut down and uploaded most of it onto my iPod. But most of those songs were from artists whose albums were either hard to find or too expensive, like 220 Volt, and Youtube hadn't quite come along yet, so that was pretty much the only way I could listen to most of the music I wanted to hear.

There are some albums which have a few good songs and a whole bunch of mediocre or bad songs(I.E. Metallica's Load and Reload) and in that case it's good to be able to pick out the good songs from the bad.

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Hey! We highjacked this thread to talk about illegal downloading fair and square. How dare you try to get us back on topic!

DallasBlack wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Hey! We highjacked this thread to talk about illegal downloading fair and square. How dare you try to get us back on topic!

Well, Excuuuuuuu-uuuuse me!!

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

Approval Guy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

I mention that in my review saying that it's about as low as Kiss gets, sitting along side "Uh All Night" and "Let's Put the X in Sex".

Approval Guy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

Yeah, that's pretty bad too...but the "hot mess" reference jumped out at me for some reason. It makes me think of Gene in full Demon armor stalking Lindsay Lohan or something.

ultmetal wrote:

Approval Guy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

I mention that in my review saying that it's about as low as Kiss gets, sitting along side "Uh All Night" and "Let's Put the X in Sex".

Yep, agree. I thought it was pretty lame lyrics. Paul can come up with better sexual innuendos that a slightly more vulgar version of "Love In An Elevator". Hmmmm - maybe we know we know why Tyler is pissed at KISS????

Fat Freddy wrote:

Approval Guy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

Yeah, that's pretty bad too...but the "hot mess" reference jumped out at me for some reason. It makes me think of Gene in full Demon armor stalking Lindsay Lohan or something.

LOL!!!!! Yeah, not nearly as some of Gene's lyrics of past such as "Oh babe, i wanna put my log in your fireplace" and "You're bent over baby and let me be the driver" from Burn Bitch Burn or "Cause when I go through her, it's like a hot knife through butter" from "Fits Like A Glove"

Fat Freddy wrote:

Approval Guy wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Random observation:

The lyric "A hot mess is just what I need" in "Eat Your Heart Out" cracks me the hell up for some reason.

Funny, I don't think you can beat Take Me Down Below foe pure Spinal Tap sillyness:

I took an elevator late one night
This lady by my side looked like she might
The doors were closing
When I asked her to take a ride with me
She took my finger, here's a button to press
I raised my flag and she dropped her dress
I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet"

Yeah, that's pretty bad too...but the "hot mess" reference jumped out at me for some reason. It makes me think of Gene in full Demon armor stalking Lindsay Lohan or something.

It made me think more of Paris Hilton.

Yeah Kiss may write some immature lyrics at times, but the songs are so dman catchy that I really couldn't care less. "You Make Me Rock Hard" is also pretty juvenile lyrically.

Vexer6 wrote:

"You Make Me Rock Hard" is also pretty juvenile lyrically.

And funny...

I love KISS, but nobody is going to mistake KISS's resident poet laureate's Sir Simmons and Sir Stanley with such distinguised men of letters such as TS Elliot or Dylan Thomas.

"Get up and get your Grandma outta here" is quite possibly the best opening line for a song in history.

S.D. wrote:

"Get up and get your Grandma outta here" is quite possibly the best opening line for a song in history.

It is a great line! As Manny said, they aren't America's top poets and no one would ever think that. Some of the lyrics just seem lame to me these from KISS. I find "Put your hand in my pocket and grab on to my rocket, feels so good to see you Lucille" seems to work much better than "I'll take you on a cruise you'll never forget
She said, "we better move 'cause I'm already wet""

Heck, maybe the lyrics just work better when a 25 year old Paul Stanley sings them as opposed to a 62 year old Paul Stanley. Sort of like a 20 something Gene singing Christeen Sixteen in the 70's wasn't creepy, but a 60 something year old Simmons singing it sounds like he's a pedophile.

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Sort of like a 20 something Gene singing Christeen Sixteen in the 70's wasn't creepy, but a 60 something year old Simmons singing it sounds like he's a pedophile.

Conversely, the line "I'm ninety-three, you're sixteen" from "Goin' Blind" makes more and more sense as Gene gets older.

I expect, no demand, my Kiss records have those cringe-inducing type lyrics. To me it's part of the charm/fun. Monster delivers many such moments. One of the many reasons I love it.

Fat Freddy wrote:

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Sort of like a 20 something Gene singing Christeen Sixteen in the 70's wasn't creepy, but a 60 something year old Simmons singing it sounds like he's a pedophile.

Conversely, the line "I'm ninety-three, you're sixteen" from "Goin' Blind" makes more and more sense as Gene gets older.

jstate wrote:

I expect, no demand, my Kiss records have those cringe-inducing type lyrics. To me it's part of the charm/fun. Monster delivers many such moments. One of the many reasons I love it.

Man, that is a great quote and I agree with you 100%. It's quintessential KISS. Like Room Service or Love 'em Leave 'em (one of my all time favorite Gene songs). If you're a fan of the band, how can you not expect and not enjoy the lyrics. Take Me Down Below is one of my favorite songs on the album, a classic KISS "love" story.

Hey, KISS fans - do you have enough stupid KISS junk yet? If not, check out what I just saw at the local Walgreens:



A set of 4 KISS Pez Dispensers in a way-cool tin collector's box. No, I didn't buy one (though I was sorely tempted!)... so hey, anybody who hooks me up with one of these for Christmas will automatically vault to the top of the Cool Mo-Fo List. (Just puttin' it out there...)

"Right Here Right Now" is one of the best songs from the album. Shame it's an iTunes exclusive.

Took me awhile to get into this album fully but I'm really diggin' it now. More consistent than Sonic Boom but doesn't match Sonic Boom's best songs, if that makes sense. Still good though.

I have listened to it more but I am not sure my feeling will change.

exact33 wrote:

I am not sure my feeling will change.

You only have one?

DevZor wrote:

exact33 wrote:

I am not sure my feeling will change.

You only have one?

yep.