Van Halen - A Different Kind of Truth

S.D. wrote:

That's a great set, hopefully they'll be filming some of these shows for a potential live DVD.

If they're smart, they'll milk this for all it's worth.

Check me if I'm wrong, but Van Halen has never released anything with DLR in a live setting, correct? Tons of boots out there, but nothing official.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

S.D. wrote:

That's a great set, hopefully they'll be filming some of these shows for a potential live DVD.

If they're smart, they'll milk this for all it's worth.

Check me if I'm wrong, but Van Halen has never released anything with DLR in a live setting, correct? Tons of boots out there, but nothing official.

Correct

New Van Halen interview:

http://vimeo.com/37045572

MEGATRON wrote:

New Van Halen interview:

http://vimeo.com/37045572

It's trippy to see them old. Alex looks pretty much the same, but Dave is starting to look like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons.

I'm going to see them tomorrow night in Indy! Can't wait! Love the setlist but I was really hoping that they would've added Me Wise Magic to it. Maybe they will change it up later on.

lynch wrote:

I'm going to see them tomorrow night in Indy! Can't wait! Love the setlist but I was really hoping that they would've added Me Wise Magic to it. Maybe they will change it up later on.

Me Wise Magic is a cool song.

Troublezone wrote:

lynch wrote:

I'm going to see them tomorrow night in Indy! Can't wait! Love the setlist but I was really hoping that they would've added Me Wise Magic to it. Maybe they will change it up later on.

Me Wise Magic is a cool song.

Great song but DLR will not be able to hit those high notes live!

Troublezone wrote:

lynch wrote:

I'm going to see them tomorrow night in Indy! Can't wait! Love the setlist but I was really hoping that they would've added Me Wise Magic to it. Maybe they will change it up later on.

Me Wise Magic is a cool song.

I've always thought the 2 songs Dave did on Best Of Vol. 1 sucked...

akeldama wrote:

I've always thought the 2 songs Dave did on Best Of Vol. 1 sucked...

I didn't think they sucked but they were definitely filler, IMO. It was nothing to get excited over.

I LOVE the new album and I am psyched to see them Live in Buffalo on March 9!

Good album. Only gave it one spin so far.

Metal Misfit wrote:

akeldama wrote:

I've always thought the 2 songs Dave did on Best Of Vol. 1 sucked...

I didn't think they sucked but they were definitely filler, IMO. It was nothing to get excited over.

While they weren't great, I did like the 2 DLR songs better than the couple they released on the Best of Both Worlds comp with Sammy. I swear the one track is just Sam reading the contents of his breakfast table.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Metal Misfit wrote:

akeldama wrote:

I've always thought the 2 songs Dave did on Best Of Vol. 1 sucked...

I didn't think they sucked but they were definitely filler, IMO. It was nothing to get excited over.

While they weren't great, I did like the 2 DLR songs better than the couple they released on the Best of Both Worlds comp with Sammy. I swear the one track is just Sam reading the contents of his breakfast table.

I prefer "It's About Time" and "Up For Breakfast" over those two DLR songs.

BTW - the album debuted at #2 on Billboard with 188k copies sold in the first week. Still no #1 album with Roth. At least Hagar can still always make that claim (even though he already ludicrously states that Van Hagar has outsold the DLR albums).

The "Hagar era" didn't do nearly as well as the Roth era.

Here are the figures:
VH1 10 mil
VHII 5 mil
WACF 3 mil
FW 2 mil
DD 4 mil
1984 10 mil

5150 6 mil
0U812 4 mil
F.U.C.K. 3 mil
LRHRN 2 mil
BALANCE 3 mil

ROTH 34 MILLION hagar 18 million.

The Roth era also contained their only #1 single - Jump.

I know, it's insane. Even the media will report that Van Hagar was more successful. I guess if you're judging by who was more mainstream, sure, but they still didn't sell better. Hagar flat out says in his book that his VH albums sold more than Roth's. I think he's been spending too much time listening to "Amsterdam" over and over again.

Sammy likes to hear himself talk and it usually comes from out of the side of his neck.

Hey, Does anyone know what kind of hi-hats Alex is using on this album. I REALLY like the sound of them.

chewie wrote:

Hey, Does anyone know what kind of hi-hats Alex is using on this album. I REALLY like the sound of them.

He has been a long time promoter of Paiste product. 2002 Sound Edge hi-hats



20" 2002 Medium
19" 2002 Crash
15" 2002 Sound Edge Hi-Hat
20" 2002 Crash
24" Giant Beat Ride
24" 2002 Big Ride
20" 2002 Medium
20" 2002 China
22" 2002 Crash
40" Symphonic Gong

I think I'm sportin a woody now...............sheeeeeeeesh

James B. wrote:

chewie wrote:

Hey, Does anyone know what kind of hi-hats Alex is using on this album. I REALLY like the sound of them.

He has been a long time promoter of Paiste product. 2002 Sound Edge hi-hats

20" 2002 Medium
19" 2002 Crash
15" 2002 Sound Edge Hi-Hat
20" 2002 Crash
24" Giant Beat Ride
24" 2002 Big Ride
20" 2002 Medium
20" 2002 China
22" 2002 Crash
40" Symphonic Gong

I think I'm sportin a woody now...............sheeeeeeeesh

Thanks James, I somehow knew that you would be the one to come up with this info!

chewie wrote:

James B. wrote:

chewie wrote:

Hey, Does anyone know what kind of hi-hats Alex is using on this album. I REALLY like the sound of them.

He has been a long time promoter of Paiste product. 2002 Sound Edge hi-hats

20" 2002 Medium
19" 2002 Crash
15" 2002 Sound Edge Hi-Hat
20" 2002 Crash
24" Giant Beat Ride
24" 2002 Big Ride
20" 2002 Medium
20" 2002 China
22" 2002 Crash
40" Symphonic Gong

I think I'm sportin a woody now...............sheeeeeeeesh

Thanks James, I somehow knew that you would be the one to come up with this info!

Being an aspiring drummer in so. calif during the late 70's, you couldn't help but have eye on what one of the BEST ever was doing.

I would love to play that kit in the photo

That Sound Edge sounds really nice on the new VH album!

I used to have Paistes on the kit I had before. A 505 ride and a cut down 2002(bought for $5) that I turned upside down put another upside down, smaller and cracked, cymbal in it and used it as a trashy china.

chewie wrote:

That Sound Edge sounds really nice on the new VH album!

I used to have Paistes on the kit I had before. A 505 ride and a cut down 2002(bought for $5) that I turned upside down put another upside down, smaller, cymbal in it and used it as a trashy china.

Those Paiste's you got from me were middle of the road but I thought they sounded okay for what they were. Do ya use them ?

James B. wrote:

chewie wrote:

That Sound Edge sounds really nice on the new VH album!

I used to have Paistes on the kit I had before. A 505 ride and a cut down 2002(bought for $5) that I turned upside down put another upside down, smaller, cymbal in it and used it as a trashy china.

Those Paiste's you got from me were middle of the road but I thought they sounded okay for what they were. Do ya use them ?

Yeah! I use those with that kit! Ya know, I've discovered if a cymbal sounds good to your own ear it doesn't really matter what brand it is. I also used to have a Sabian B8 china splash that had this incredible sound that no other had. I always get strange looks whenever I've mentioned that to other drummers, but it just had a sound that I was looking for.

akeldama wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

lynch wrote:

I'm going to see them tomorrow night in Indy! Can't wait! Love the setlist but I was really hoping that they would've added Me Wise Magic to it. Maybe they will change it up later on.

Me Wise Magic is a cool song.

I've always thought the 2 songs Dave did on Best Of Vol. 1 sucked...

Me Wise Magic is a killer song and one of the bright spots of 96. I wore that song out. Proof that Dave and Ed were at their best together.

The Van Halen's are out on the stage doing a soundcheck sans Dave right now. Maybe they supplement the bg vox during the show, but I can see Wolfgang and Eddie doing them live now and they sound fine.

So far, they've gone through 'Unchained', 'Running with the Devil' and 'She's the Woman'. Sounds kinda weird without Dave's lead.