11/11/11 - Black Sabbath

manny wrote:

I think it will be a shame if Black Sabbath closes out their career without Bill Ward, I think that Bill Ward maybe should have kept this in house and not have aired the band's dirty laundry in public, I hope they work things out and complete the damn album.

I think an 11th hour deal will be made. Like I said, to have happen what is in all likelihood the LAST bit of Black Sabbath activity ever without the originals in tow would be sad.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

manny wrote:

I think it will be a shame if Black Sabbath closes out their career without Bill Ward, I think that Bill Ward maybe should have kept this in house and not have aired the band's dirty laundry in public, I hope they work things out and complete the damn album.

I think an 11th hour deal will be made. Like I said, to have happen what is in all likelihood the LAST bit of Black Sabbath activity ever without the originals in tow would be sad.

I hope you're right. That would indeed be sad.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

manny wrote:

I think it will be a shame if Black Sabbath closes out their career without Bill Ward, I think that Bill Ward maybe should have kept this in house and not have aired the band's dirty laundry in public, I hope they work things out and complete the damn album.

I think an 11th hour deal will be made. Like I said, to have happen what is in all likelihood the LAST bit of Black Sabbath activity ever without the originals in tow would be sad.

its the best publicity they couldnt buy...

I personally its cool that these old rockers, have been putting out some great music this late in their career, KISS, Alice Cooper, Yes, Van Halen, Uriah Heep, Metallica, Megadeth, have all released some strong albums and I am excepting the same with Black Sabbath

Metal Misfit wrote:

Y'know, I just can't understand it...

Why don't they just bring in Ripper Owens to play drums?

Or Mike Portnoy.

My money is on Vinny Appice

NYCAnt wrote:

My money is on Vinny Appice

He was brought in by Dio. Vinny never played on a Sabbath album when Dio wasn't involved.

They should just get "The Drummer At The Wrong Gig" Guy.

TOUR UPDATE: BAND’S SOLE EUROPEAN PERFORMANCE THIS SUMMER SET FOR U.K.’S DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL. OZZY & FRIENDS TO PERFORM MAJORITY OF OTHER SCHEDULED SHOWS

BLACK SABBATH --who late last year confirmed the recording of their first new album in more than 33 years and a worldwide headlining tour--have had to put some plans on hold due to Tony Iommi's battle with lymphoma. At this time, BLACK SABBATH will perform only one show of this summer’s previously scheduled European tour. It will take place Sunday, June 10 at the U.K.’s Download Festival.

So as not to let the promoters and fans down, Ozzy Osbourne will now perform the majority of the previously scheduled BLACK SABBATH dates (both festival performances and the headlining shows) billed as OZZY & FRIENDS. These “first ever” OZZY & FRIENDS shows will feature appearances by “special guest” musicians including Official Geezer Butler (who will join Ozzy for a special BLACK SABBATH set as a show of respect and support to their friend, Tony Iommi) and longtime former OZZY band member Zakk Wylde. In addition, OZZY will be accompanied by longtime collaborator and friend Slash at select shows, with other “special guests” set to join the tour at various stops along the way (full list of dates, appearances below).

Tony Iommi continues to make excellent progress and is looking forward to getting back out on the road. Meanwhile, BLACK SABBATH continue to write and record music in the U.K. for their upcoming album. More information about these dates and BLACK SABBATH’s recording and touring plans is forthcoming.

The 2012 tour dates are here: http://on.fb.me/pressrelease217

Geez, sounds like this whole re-union thing is falling apart at the seams.

I'm hoping Tony's health improves to the point where they can play some more shows. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Earlier in the month, BLACK SABBATH drummer Bill Ward announced that he will not be able to participate in the recording of the reunited group's new album or perform with them on tour unless he is presented with what he described as a "fair agreement" and a "signable contract" that financially reflects his contributions to SABBATH's history and his standing as a founding member of the band.

BLACK SABBATH members Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne and Geeer Butler vowed to continue recording their new album without Ward, saying in a statement that they "were saddened to hear via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current BLACK SABBATH plans... We have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open... We are still in the U.K. with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll."

In a statement posted on his official web site earlier today, Ward said, "Dear SABBATH fans, I wanted to let you know where things are at, from my point of view, as of today, February 17, 2012.

"As my statement of February 2, 2012 indicated, I have not declined to participate in the SABBATH album and tour. At the earliest opportunity, I am prepared to go to the U.K. and record, and later tour with the band.

"Last week, we sent further communication to the attorney handling the negotiations to try to reach an agreement. At this time we are waiting to hear back. I remain hopeful for a 'signable' contract and a positive outcome.

"I want to thank everyone who has voiced and posted their opinions, thoughts, support and love through all media, including the newly constructed sites. I applaud your worldwide reaction in support of the original band. And speaking for myself, your intent and truth will always be respected.

"While believing in your freedom for expression, keep in mind that Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are still my lifetime friends, and I cannot support comments with an objectifying or derogatory theme toward them or their various representatives.

"Many thanks to all of you. You are truly phenomenal."

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Geez, sounds like this whole re-union thing is falling apart at the seams.

Sound like Bill Ward is close to getting a better deal - see my last post

S.D. wrote:

I'm hoping Tony's health improves to the point where they can play some more shows. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

That's what I am worried about - it's like what happen with Dio - announced a bunch of a dates, then had to cancel due to him getting worse......

thejokeriv wrote:

S.D. wrote:

I'm hoping Tony's health improves to the point where they can play some more shows. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

That's what I am worried about - it's like what happen with Dio - announced a bunch of a dates, then had to cancel due to him getting worse......

I hope Tony's condition isn't much worse then they're letting on. Not to sound like Debbie Downer, but when they annonced Dio had stomach cancer I knew it was the end. Rarely does someone come back from that. I've seen it. It hits hard and it hits fast.

But in Tony's case, I thought his kind (lymphoma) had a high rate of cureability. Here's hoping anyway.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

But in Tony's case, I thought his kind (lymphoma) had a high rate of cureability. Here's hoping anyway.

Lymphoma was what killed Joey Ramone.

Just sayin'. There are, of course, different levels of severity and countless treatment options out there.

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"While believing in your freedom for expression, keep in mind that Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are still my lifetime friends, and I cannot support comments with an objectifying or derogatory theme toward them or their various representatives.

Pure class.

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

But in Tony's case, I thought his kind (lymphoma) had a high rate of cureability. Here's hoping anyway.

Lymphoma was what killed Joey Ramone.

Just sayin'. There are, of course, different levels of severity and countless treatment options out there.

Ah fook.

I hope they caught in time, I am hopeful, if Iommi is truly working on the new disc.

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

But in Tony's case, I thought his kind (lymphoma) had a high rate of cureability. Here's hoping anyway.

Lymphoma was what killed Joey Ramone.

Just sayin'. There are, of course, different levels of severity and countless treatment options out there.

They did say it's in the early stages... and i'm sure he has some very good doctors.

Ozzy & Friends?

http://www.bravewords.com/news/178261

They should never have announced the mini-tour in the first place. This news doesn't surprise me in the least. Maybe the drummer playing these shows will be replacing Bill if things don't work out with him.

thejokeriv wrote:

That's what I am worried about - it's like what happen with Dio - announced a bunch of a dates, then had to cancel due to him getting worse......

The situation is a bit different here. Tony can't afford to delay his treatment just for the sake of a small tour.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

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"While believing in your freedom for expression, keep in mind that Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are still my lifetime friends, and I cannot support comments with an objectifying or derogatory theme toward them or their various representatives.

Pure class.

yep.

Bump for show update...

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Black Sabbath will play one show in America this year – and it’ll happen in August.

Sharon Osbourne revealed this news when interviewed by VH1 Radio Network. The date itself is to be announced shortly.

Sharon also commented on the current state of play with drummer Bill Ward, who is still claiming he’s not been offered a reasonable contract to reunite with Sabbath.

“It’s up to Bill. The door is open for him to join us, so it’s up to him.”

So this "Sabbath Reunion" is only playing 2 dates, one in Europe and one in the States?

Bummer.

Hiya,

A little update on how it's all going:

Well, I've had the last dose of chemotherapy so hopefully my body will start to get back to normal soon, the steroids were the wors[t]. I've now got three weeks of radiotherapy coming up which I'm told can be very tiring so we'll see.

A big thanks to Ozzy and Geezer for coming over to England, it was a big incentive for me, we managed to work most days and have some great new tracks.

And, importantly thanks again for your kind messages, hope to be seeing you soon.

- Tony"