Nude Metal bands you are into?

people keep listing Soundgarden. they are great, but are not nu-metal.

No one seems to know what nu-metal is.

I don't know either... Here's my definition.

1. Usually influenced by the "Alternative Rock" movement of the early 90's. Often by Grunge but not always.
2. Often employs downtuning and technology to beef up the sound hugely.
3. No blatant virtuosity; nothing allowed that sounds like KIng Diamond, Yngwie, or Rhapsody.

that's my stab at a definition. Beefed up Grunge I'd call it; although most of the stuff that (I call) Nu-metal that I like,is influenced by Soundgarden (which was pre-Nu-metal?), and pays the occasional nod to Ozzy or even Southern Rock. The Nu-Metal that I don't like sounds to me like really loud alternative pop. My friends tell me I'm wrong...that the stuff I like is just classic rock with modern influences; rather than the other way around. (Black Stone Cherry, Fireball Ministry). They tell me I need to get into Black Label Society; which I'm pretty sure isn't Nu-metal. So yes, I'm all confused here too. I'd be interested to hear other definitions.

nu metal is almost always downtuned, hip-hop influenced (even if just in the commercialism), pop-py, simplistic, catchy riffs/melodies. lyrics dealing in emo, street, no solos or technicality etc.

you always seem to know when you hear it.

Soundgarden was grunge, with a more Black Sabbath influence.

Lets put it this way then...call it the Lollapalooza tour from about 1993; almost lock stock and barrel (including Faith No More, Pearl Jam, Chilli Peppers, L-7, Ministry, and Soundgarden too) only now they are using Tony Iommi's equiptment. Am I getting close?

Neither of those are accurate. If it weren't 3:42am I'd explain what nu-metal was. It's pretty clear cut, I think. I'll post later today.

No one really ... but I had strange dreams this night - I was listening to Slipknot in my dreams and I liked em, 'cause they sounded like a pure thrash band in my dreams! (??!)

sovdat wrote:

No one really ... but I had strange dreams this night - I was listening to Slipknot in my dreams and I liked em, 'cause they sounded like a pure thrash band in my dreams! (??!)

they are pure thrash. you should go by all the releases including the live one today

Me confused!
Loocking forward to you explaining what nu metal is Eyesore..
There are way to many labels and categories to keep up with!
What will you call:
POD
DEMON HUNTER
LINKIN PARK
DEFTONES
??????

Not sure about the definition of Nu-Metal but I like:
Slipknot
Disturbed
Sevendust
and some newer metal bands I wouldnt consider Nu-metal or Metalcore are:
Shadows Fall
Killswitch Engage
and thats about it!

I like a few nu-metal bands.

Flaw
Disturbed
Slipknot
Dog Fashion Disco (don't know if they ENTIRELY fit the label)

Most of the other nu-metal discs I own I am trying to unload on LaLa, as I just don't really care for the bands anymore.

Forever A Heath Bar wrote:

sovdat wrote:

No one really ... but I had strange dreams this night - I was listening to Slipknot in my dreams and I liked em, 'cause they sounded like a pure thrash band in my dreams! (??!)

they are pure thrash. you should go by all the releases including the live one today

no way man. they are in no way a thrash band.

Shiney wrote:

SYSTEM OF A DOWN

Yeah, I dig SoaD too - though I currently only have their "Aerials" single and their cover of "Snowblind" by Sabbath. I had the whole catalogue at one point, but it just didn't hold enough charm for me to keep it all.

Ult played me a little Sevendust when he was here last weekend and they were ok, and I've heard a little bit of Disturbed and they were also ok (they did a neat cover of Genesis' "Land of Confusion"). I don't think I'd buy anything by them though.

You know what; it's not much worth trying to explain what nu-metal is. When it first came out it was easy to pinpoint a nu-metal band. Bands like Spineshank, Coal Chamber, Unjust, etc. But when you really get down to it, at first the "genre" was tight, because labels were being very precise at what bands they signed and promoted, so there was a common denominator there. But now many of those bands have evolved, and newer bands labeled "nu-metal" have only slight commonalities to those early nu-metal bands. So basically what has happened is that nu-metal is essentially no more, and never was. These bands are basically alternative rock/alternative metal bands.

Take grunge for example. Was it a genre? Or was it simply a worthless tag? You've got Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Tad, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, Green River, Malfunkshun, L7, Babes In Toyland, Nirvane, Hole, etc.; all bands labeled grunge at one point or another. But where is the common denominator there? Seattle? Location doesn't make a genre. None of those bands sound alike, their styles are vastly different. So how is that a genre? It's not. It never was. "Grunge" was a promotional tag. Those bands are alt-rock/metal bands. Plain and simple. Now that I've thought about it, I think the same can be said about nu-metal.

Eyesore wrote:

You know what; it's not much worth trying to explain what nu-metal is. When it first came out it was easy to pinpoint a nu-metal band. Bands like Spineshank, Coal Chamber, Unjust, etc. But when you really get down to it, at first the "genre" was tight, because labels were being very precise at what bands they signed and promoted, so there was a common denominator there. But now many of those bands have evolved, and newer bands labeled "nu-metal" have only slight commonalities to those early nu-metal bands. So basically what has happened is that nu-metal is essentially no more, and never was. These bands are basically alternative rock/alternative metal bands.

Take grunge for example. Was it a genre? Or was it simply a worthless tag? You've got Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Tad, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, Green River, Malfunkshun, L7, Babes In Toyland, Nirvane, Hole, etc.; all bands labeled grunge at one point or another. But where is the common denominator there? Seattle? Location doesn't make a genre. None of those bands sound alike, their styles are vastly different. So how is that a genre? It's not. It never was. "Grunge" was a promotional tag. Those bands are alt-rock/metal bands. Plain and simple. Now that I've thought about it, I think the same can be said about nu-metal.

I completely agree with you. Bands like Nirvana, L7 were not Grunge. In the 80s the same thing, people were calling Warrant and Poison Heavy Metal. I think they were more hard rock. What happens is MTV a radio station, or even some guy in a suit says Slipknot is Death Metal, and when thousands or millions or watching or listening, it is accepted. Than a friend says to a friend, guess who I heard last night. A death metal band called Slipknot. I was watching a clip of Slipknot on youtube. It was from MTV. The VJ called them death metal, I was shocked. I had no idea anyone, anyone at all considered them death metal

Slipknot thrash??? HAHAHA

Nu Metal is and should be termed un-metal because its NOT metal. Its all just horrible talentless crap! It needs to disappear already!

Lurideath wrote:

Slipknot thrash??? HAHAHA

Nu Metal is and should be termed un-metal because its NOT metal. Its all just horrible talentless crap! It needs to disappear already!

You do realize how silly this sounds, right? All "nu-metal" is talentless crap? That's quite the generalization.

Yeah generalized in truth too!

SAHB....(if I may call you that)

I love ONLY LIVING WITNESS.....such an underappreciated band.

If you listen to the guitar playing and drum plaiying on Slipknots Vol 3, it is actually very impressive. I am a hard impress when it comes to guitar playing.

Forever A Heath Bar wrote:

If you listen to the guitar playing and drum plaiying on Slipknots Vol 3, it is actually very impressive. I am a hard impress when it comes to guitar playing.

"meh" didn't go crazy about it, they basically added some guitar solo's on some songs.

Here's how I would put it for myself then. I rarely listen to the Nu-metal radio station here (and stations in different towns may be playing different stuff, which may lend to the confusion): but almost all the stuff I hear on there that I decide to actually like (or buy); sounds like it has a Soundgarden influence. But I guess it is too diverse to pin down; it just happens that the stuff that gets my attention has that particular sound. Also, I would say bands like Only Living Witness were one of the obscure bands that contributed to the evolution of the niche in the modern sound that I happen to like.
Or to put it even more simply: just about the only bands that the Nu-metal radio station here plays that I find interesting are ones that sound to my ears like they are influenced by Soundgarden. If I'm missing the diversity it's because I don't often find much of the other stuff they play on the station to be very interesting.

Shiney wrote:

SAHB....(if I may call you that)

I love ONLY LIVING WITNESS.....such an underappreciated band.

And not nu-metal! I actually worked with Craig Silverman about a year ago.

Lurideath wrote:

Yeah generalized in truth too!

Whatever you say.

Demon Hunter (Metalcore, rather than nu-metal, modern either way though...)
Creed (their not even metal... aren't they post-grunge?)
Slipknot
Avenged Sevenfold
System of a Down (I dug the last two releases)
Disturbed
Stone Sour
Rammstein (Now, if we can call CREED metal, we can call these guys metal... not sure if their "nu" though)

I'm sure their are a few more, but thats all that comes to mind at the moment.