Refuse to support and artist/band because for moral reasons?

ZombieHavoc wrote:

I also kind of shy away from bands with ridiculously misogynistic album covers these days, or things that just too much glorify violence towards women. Bugs me that people seem okay with that stuff, but whatever. Their money and ears. There was that one band recently, damn I can't remember the name, their album cover was just like a girl's head with a dude holding a knife to her throat.

Inveracity?

Required Fields wrote:

ZombieHavoc wrote:

I also kind of shy away from bands with ridiculously misogynistic album covers these days, or things that just too much glorify violence towards women. Bugs me that people seem okay with that stuff, but whatever. Their money and ears. There was that one band recently, damn I can't remember the name, their album cover was just like a girl's head with a dude holding a knife to her throat.

Inveracity?

Oddly, no. Which bums me out. Ha. I've never seen that cover before.

I just dug around a tiny bit and found it. I remember it was on Slaney. The band is Destroyer, and "Slashing Metal" is the album.

There are plenty of bands I won't support on moral grounds, but it's usually an issue of their lyrics rather than their personal lives.

I wouldn't buy nazi metal/punk or some such albums. Not that I'm tempted. I couldn't even imagine listening to stuff like that.

Same probably goes for other dangerous and creepy politically or ideologically driven bands and 'artists'. Be it communist, racist, terrorist, dentist...

I own some downright despicable stuff. I don't even think about it.

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I own some downright despicable stuff. I don't even think about it.

That's the spirit   

TrogDawn wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

There are plenty of bands I won't support on moral grounds, but it's usually an issue of their lyrics rather than their personal lives.

Not trying to start an argument, but that sounds completely backwards to me.

Their personal lives don't go rattling around in my head all day. Their lyrics do.

The only bands i dont support for moral reasons are racist bands or satanic/anti-Christian bands (and by that i mean where all or most of their lyrics are in that vein, not talking about the likes of slayer here). There are songs that i find objectionable (ie, gnr's one in a million, sabbath's sweet leaf), but i just skip over those songs as opposed to not supporting the entire bands catalog just because of one song (that said, i can understand people who do).

Sweet Leaf is objectionable?  Not where/when I grew up, it was practically our national anthem!

 

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Maybe not "objectionable", i just dont like pro-drug songs

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

There are plenty of bands I won't support on moral grounds, but it's usually an issue of their lyrics rather than their personal lives.

Not trying to start an argument, but that sounds completely backwards to me.

Their personal lives don't go rattling around in my head all day. Their lyrics do.

Ok, I see your point when you put it that way.   

I generally don't care all the much unless the artist is really annoying - like Springsteen. I agree with some lyrics and disagree with others. I do not care for Warrior Soul's lyrics but they make great music.

Runicen wrote:

I own Burzum albums.  I mean, if I can reasonably throw ANY kind of support to Varg with his viewpoints (which, arguably are at least less venomous than others who espouse the same views), there ain't much coming out of the states save for that creepy baby rapist from the band whose name is lost to memory because I don't care to remember it that would cause me to not support or stop supporting a musician.

That would be Lostprophets, who were Welsh, not American. They were a terrible band, though, regardless.

TrogDawn wrote:

David Benson is someone I will no longer support due to the way he hires musicians to play on his albums and then stiffs them what he owes them after the recording is done.  (Victor Griffin, Dan Lively and Russell Lee have STILL not been paid for their studio time on the Evil Killer album). His output is also substandard both musically and in the actual quality of the merchandise...if you ever receive what you order from him, that is.

+1.....


Not for the reasons above (which suck in and of themselves) but because of my own personal interaction with him on a professional level....


pathetic.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

I also kind of shy away from bands with ridiculously misogynistic album covers these days, or things that just too much glorify violence towards women. Bugs me that people seem okay with that stuff, but whatever. Their money and ears. There was that one band recently, damn I can't remember the name, their album cover was just like a girl's head with a dude holding a knife to her throat. Yeah, not into that, no matter how killer the music might sound.

Bottom line is, for me, there are a ton of killer bands and records out there. So many that it is easy as hell to ignore/not support/actively boycott the ones who strike me the way the above artists do.

This.....


Thinking about this .... this goes beyond "HEY Baby over here...."....

TrogDawn wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

There are plenty of bands I won't support on moral grounds, but it's usually an issue of their lyrics rather than their personal lives.

Not trying to start an argument, but that sounds completely backwards to me.

That's not backwards to me. I agree with him. I can ignore the person's beliefs, but the lyrics will be heard over and over and over. That seeps into a person.

My Dad does this with stores, States,teams, whatever. If a place or business bothers him he won't support/buy/go, even if that hurts him in some way. I maintain that one can end up painting oneself into a corner with this kind of behavior. If you go far enough up the line with stores, products, teams, etc...someone somewhere along the line does something that doesn't jibe with your beliefs. You can run out of places to go/things to do/music to listen to pretty quickly. If I boycotted every product that had pro-choice employees on the payroll (from the owner on down), who knows how many things I would eliminate from my life. It's a dangerous, slippery slope to live like that.

So, that's why it's the actual message/lyrics -vs- the person's lifestyle that matter to me with music.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

Ted Nugent is the only artist I can think that I don't support based solely on stuff he says outside of his music (fortunately, it's not hard, as I was never that into him to begin with).

There are some artists I won't support because of their actual lyrical content. Some times it bums me out, like At War and Carnivore (songs like "Rapechase" by the former and "Predator" by the latter just really turn me off from what are musically two excellent bands).

One thing that kind of hurts, though, is MOD/SOD...In my adulthood, I just can't really take the joke any more. I could probably take most of it, but if you're dropping the N word, I'm out. I used to number both bands at the top of my favorites. I will listen to Surfin' MOD some times though...for whatever reason they decided to do the most un-controversial record ever.

I also kind of shy away from bands with ridiculously misogynistic album covers these days, or things that just too much glorify violence towards women. Bugs me that people seem okay with that stuff, but whatever. Their money and ears. There was that one band recently, damn I can't remember the name, their album cover was just like a girl's head with a dude holding a knife to her throat. Yeah, not into that, no matter how killer the music might sound.

Bottom line is, for me, there are a ton of killer bands and records out there. So many that it is easy as hell to ignore/not support/actively boycott the ones who strike me the way the above artists do.

This is pretty much me too. Word for word.

Burzum is a weird one for me as he doesn't really bring his 'beliefs' into his music but I really don't want to give Varg money because of his habit of buying guns with it.   

It's just music,a form of entertainment.I listen to a lot of different stuff and try not to dwell on what someone might have said or taken out of context.

Same with actors,I still like George Clooney and enjoy his movies even though he's a liberal.Same goes with a lot of others.If everyone on this planet had the same viewpoints and beliefs it would be a pretty dull place I think.

Kerry King has said some ignorant comments and tends to write irritating lyrics, but at the end of the day, I'm still a Slayer fan. Same with Phil Anselmo.

For me personally,  I tend to be more offended by the outspoken liberal artists. Eddie Vedder and Tom Morello tend to get on my nerves, but l can't say I've ever been a fan of either of their bands (aside from a couple songs).

Troublezone wrote:

For me personally,  I tend to be more offended by the outspoken liberal artists. Eddie Vedder and Tom Morello tend to get on my nerves, but l can't say I've ever been a fan of either of their bands (aside from a couple songs).

Thank God I am no longer in a band, my liberal viewpoints would win few fans or friends here!!!

Cynic-for the obvious reasons///go ahead and hate me......

scottmitchell74 wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

There are plenty of bands I won't support on moral grounds, but it's usually an issue of their lyrics rather than their personal lives.

Not trying to start an argument, but that sounds completely backwards to me.

That's not backwards to me. I agree with him. I can ignore the person's beliefs, but the lyrics will be heard over and over and over. That seeps into a person.

My Dad does this with stores, States,teams, whatever. If a place or business bothers him he won't support/buy/go, even if that hurts him in some way. I maintain that one can end up painting oneself into a corner with this kind of behavior. If you go far enough up the line with stores, products, teams, etc...someone somewhere along the line does something that doesn't jibe with your beliefs. You can run out of places to go/things to do/music to listen to pretty quickly. If I boycotted every product that had pro-choice employees on the payroll (from the owner on down), who knows how many things I would eliminate from my life. It's a dangerous, slippery slope to live like that.

So, that's why it's the actual message/lyrics -vs- the person's lifestyle that matter to me with music.

Ditto