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mlotek Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1226 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:40 pm | |
| - Metal Misfit wrote:
- MetalGuy71 wrote:
- Eddie Trunk apparently sent out this tweet...
Alice & Motley? I wouldn't mind seeing that. If true, I need to see this concert. I will say it since no one else has. How can Motley Crue "retire" when Alice Cooper is OLDER and won't retire/stop? reminds me of a friend saying when he went to see OZZY in July, 1989 because Ozzy might be dead any day, so when the Rolling Stones played Sarstock in 2003, I thought the same and went, that Keith or Mick could be dead any day too. Everybody is still touring. | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:24 am | |
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- How can Motley Crue "retire" when Alice Cooper is OLDER and won't retire/stop?
Alice doesn't have a guitarist whose spine is fusing together. _________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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Boris2008 Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7234 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:21 am | |
| - MetalGuy71 wrote:
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- How can Motley Crue "retire" when Alice Cooper is OLDER and won't retire/stop?
Alice doesn't have a guitarist whose spine is fusing together. Reading Mick's sections in 'The Dirt' I think it's only a series of bad financial moves on Mick's part that has resulted in him carrying on this long. It sounds as though he's been in a lot of pain for a long time. | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:36 am | |
| - Boris2008 wrote:
- MetalGuy71 wrote:
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- How can Motley Crue "retire" when Alice Cooper is OLDER and won't retire/stop?
Alice doesn't have a guitarist whose spine is fusing together. Reading Mick's sections in 'The Dirt' I think it's only a series of bad financial moves on Mick's part that has resulted in him carrying on this long. It sounds as though he's been in a lot of pain for a long time. When I saw them a few years ago, I was off to the side seating area and during Tommy's drum solo, I could see 2 people helping Mick down the steps and walk him back stage. He was hobbling like a frail old man. That was probably a good 7 or 8 years ago by now. I can only image that he's gotten worse since then. EDIT: The interwebs tell me Motley last played the Spectrum in Philly in 2005. So nearly 9 years ago, and he was already feeble. _________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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mlotek Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1226 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:32 pm | |
| Oh, I never heard about Mick Mars' poor health before. I've had back problems in the past too, and can sympathize. | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:38 pm | |
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- For most of his professional career, Mars has openly struggled with ankylosing spondylitis, a chronic, inflammatory form of arthritis that mainly affects the spine and pelvis. It was initially diagnosed when he was 17 years old, and has increasingly impaired his movement and has caused him a great deal of pain. This led to hip-replacement surgery at the end of 2004.
Over the years, the illness has caused his lower spine to seize up and freeze completely solid, "...causing scoliosis in [his] back and squashing [him] further down and forward until [he] was a full three inches shorter than [he] was in high school."
_________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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corplhicks Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7059 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:52 pm | |
| - MetalGuy71 wrote:
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- For most of his professional career, Mars has openly struggled with ankylosing spondylitis, a chronic, inflammatory form of arthritis that mainly affects the spine and pelvis. It was initially diagnosed when he was 17 years old, and has increasingly impaired his movement and has caused him a great deal of pain. This led to hip-replacement surgery at the end of 2004.
Over the years, the illness has caused his lower spine to seize up and freeze completely solid, "...causing scoliosis in [his] back and squashing [him] further down and forward until [he] was a full three inches shorter than [he] was in high school."
God... Gah... You know I never liked the guy and think he is a shit guitarist but hell, I'm gonna say a daily prayer for him. That's just cringe-inducing. | |
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
Number of posts : 12874 Age : 60
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:12 pm | |
| - corplhicks wrote:
and think he is a shit guitarist
He had a killer tone on "Too Fast" and "Shout" Not flashy or innovative, but still unique. _________________ | |
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corplhicks Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7059 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:45 pm | |
| - James B. wrote:
- corplhicks wrote:
and think he is a shit guitarist
He had a killer tone on "Too Fast" and "Shout"
Not flashy or innovative, but still unique. His tone is great, and he's a great riffer, but soloing grates on my nerves and not unique in the least. Just a bunch of pentatonic noodling with some cheap speed cheats that was impressive in the early 70's. That would be okay if he could at least have some personality in his licks, but they're lifeless. Dude can't even play the blues with passion. | |
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007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40978 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:47 pm | |
| I always thought Mars was a rather bland guitarist. Serviceable but none too flashy. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:49 pm | |
| Mars is "just good enough" for Motley Crue, you don't need a virtuoso guitarist for music this simple. |
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007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40978 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:53 pm | |
| - S.D. wrote:
- Mars is "just good enough" for Motley Crue, you don't need a virtuoso guitarist for music this simple.
Yeah that's a good way to put it. It just seems like (and maybe this is due to faulty memory) he was getting a ton of praise heaped on him back in the day. I just didn't get it. | |
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corplhicks Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7059 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:55 pm | |
| - S.D. wrote:
- Mars is "just good enough" for Motley Crue, you don't need a virtuoso guitarist for music this simple.
Thing is Tommy and Nikki are skilled players, and Mick just doesn't fit in. Also consider most of the pop metal that followed had far better players in the EVH mold. Mick never bothered to step up his game but remain boring and lifeless. I will say he did well on the Corabi album by focusing more on atmosphere and ambiance than five-note drivel. | |
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akeldama Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7831 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:48 pm | |
| Mick is not a crappy guitarist in the least, I think Nikki is a rather pedestrian bassist for the most part but musically Mick played his ass off on 'Too Fast For Love', "Motley Crab" & 'Quaternary' and 'Shout At The Devil'. "Simple" shouldn't be taken nor stated in a derogatory way which I'm not implying that it is but rather I'm just making a statement. No amount of virtuosity or whatever else tickles your ears would ever fix the messes that TOP, GGG, Dr. Feelgood or GS are IMO. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:58 pm | |
| Just for the record, when I said "simple" it was not meant in a derogatory way. Lots of great music is very simple. |
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akeldama Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7831 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:00 pm | |
| - S.D. wrote:
- Just for the record, when I said "simple" it was not meant in a derogatory way. Lots of great music is very simple.
I knew that. | |
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journeyman Metal master
Number of posts : 883 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:02 pm | |
| Mick was perfect for the band. Simple, yes. Good, yes. With MC retiring, what is Neil going to do with that "make me look 20" thing he had done. | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:22 am | |
| Final Tour Dates announced. And yes, it's with Alice Cooper...
July 02 - Grand Rapids, MI - Van Andel Arena July 04 - Milwaukee, WI - Summerfest July 05 - Noblesville, IN - Klipsch Music Center July 06 - Cincinnati, OH - Riverbend Music Center July 08 - Columbus, OH - Schottenstein Center July 09 - Maryland Heights, MO - Verizon Wireless Amphitheater July 11 - Des Moines, IA - Wells Fargo Arena July 12 - Wichita, KS - INTRUST Bank Arena July 13 - Tulsa, OK - BOK Center July 15 - Cedar Park, TX - Cedar Park Center July 16 - Dallas, TX - Gexa Energy Pavilion July 18 - Albuquerque, NM - Isleta Amphitheater July 19 - Phoenix, AZ - AK-Chin Pavilion July 21 - Los Angeles, CA - Hollywood Bowl July 22 - Irvine, CA - Verizon Wireless Amp July 23 - Mountain View, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre July 25 - Reno, NV - Reno Events Center July 26 - Ridgefield, WA - Sleep County Amphitheater July 27 - Auburn, WA - White River Amphitheater July 29 - Wheatland, CA - Sleep Train Amphitheater July 30 - Chula Vista, CA - Sleep Train Amphitheater Aug. 01 - Salt Lake City, UT - USANA Amp Aug. 02 - Denver, CO - Pepsi Center Aug. 03 - Kansas City, MO - Sprint Center Aug. 05 - Sturgis, SD - Sturgis Buffalo Chip Aug. 06 - Sioux City, IA - Tyson Events Center Aug. 08 - Tinley Park, IL - First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre Aug. 09 - Clarkston, MI - DTE Energy Music Theatre Aug. 10 - Toronto, ON - Molson Canadian Amp Aug. 12 - Cuyahoga Falls, OH - Blossom Music Center Aug. 13 - Burgettstown, PA - First Niagara Pavilion Aug. 15 - Pelham, AL - Oak Mountain Amp Aug. 16 - Alpharetta, GA - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre @ Encore Park Aug. 17 - Tampa, FL - MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amp Aug. 19 - Charlotte, NC - PNC Music Pavilion Aug. 20 - Virginia Beach, VA - Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach Aug. 22 - Bristow, VA - Jiffy Lube Live Aug. 23 - Camden, NJ - Susquehanna Bank Center Aug. 24 - Mansfield, MA - Xfinity Center Aug. 26 - Saratoga Springs, NY - Saratoga Performing. Arts Center Aug. 27 - Allentown, PA - Great Allentown Fair Aug. 29 - Wantagh, NY - Nikon at Jones Beach Theater Aug. 30 - Holmdel, NJ - PNC Bank Arts Center Aug. 31 - Darien Center, NY - Darien Lake Performing. Arts Center Oct. 10 - Oklahoma City, OK - Chesapeake Arena Oct. 11 - The Woodlands, TX - Cynthia W. Mitchell Pavilion Oct. 12 - Bossier City, LA - CenturyLink Center Oct. 14 - Louisville, KY - KFC Yum! Center Oct. 15 - Nashville, TN - Bridgestone Arena Oct. 17 - Hollywood, FL - Seminole Hard Rock Live Oct. 19 - Jacksonville, FL - Veterans Memorial Arena Oct. 21 - Greenville, SC - Bon Secours Wellness Arena Oct. 22 - Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum Oct. 25 - Atlantic City, NJ - Borgata Events Center Phoenix - AK-Chin Pavilion Oct. 26 - Montville, CT - Mohegan Sun Oct. 29 - Syracuse, NY - The OnCenter Complex Nov. 05 - Biloxi, MS - Mississippi Coast College Nov. 06 - Southaven, MS - Landers Center Nov. 09 - Moline, IL - iWireless Center Nov. 11 - Green Bay, WI - Resch Center Nov. 12 - Madison, WI - Alliant Energy Center Nov. 13 - Omaha, NE - CenturyLink Center Nov. 15 - St. Paul, MN - Xcel Energy Center Nov. 16 - Fargo, ND - FargoDome Nov. 18 - Edmonton, AB - Rexall Place Nov. 19 - Calgary, AB - Scotiabank Saddledome Nov. 21 - Vancouver, BC - Rogers Arena _________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40978 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:25 am | |
| August 13th in my area. "Last chance" to ever see them. | |
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thejokeriv Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:39 am | |
| - 007 wrote:
- August 13th in my area. "Last chance" to ever see them.
Aug 22nd is the date I will be "missing" my "last chance" to see them | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:40 am | |
| I've seen them 3 or 4 times in the past, so I'm not all that eager to see them one last time. I could be persuaded however to catch Alice. I'd like to see him once live before he keels over.
I was hoping they'd play in the arena where I work so I could see it free. Add to it that I don't like the Susquehanna Bank Center. _________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:42 am | |
| - S.D. wrote:
- Mars is "just good enough" for Motley Crue, you don't need a virtuoso guitarist for music this simple.
Exactly. It's not like Motley Crue was Rush or even Winger...a solid blues/rock player was all they needed. _________________ FINAL SIGN
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Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:43 am | |
| I'm gonna see if I can get box tickets from my company for Oct22...that's how I saw Journey last time. LOL _________________ FINAL SIGN
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Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
Number of posts : 6039 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:52 am | |
| How is Mick going to handle that tour? Five nights in a row is a lot for younger dudes. | |
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corplhicks Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7059 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Motley Crue planning to hang it up Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:32 pm | |
| My point is Mick Mars is a BAD guitarist, not good, not solid, but perhaps I'm just not as forgiving as others. Moving on...
"Today, the band members went so far as to sign a “cessation of touring agreement” at a press conference in Los Angeles. That legal filing will go into effect at the end of 2015."
So how legit is this type of document? Is it just a flimsy PR stunt or will this really kill off the band? | |
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