Have started listening to Christian Metal

From what you've listed i'd add Armageddon's Money Mask and a big second on that Haven album.

Don't forget the Rage of Angels album.

I like Christian Metal, Seen alot of the big name bands back in the day and some within this century.

This was my gateway music I guess you can say. However theres only a few bands I can listen to now. Stryper, Deliverance sometimes Whitecross and sometimes Barren Cross. I say sometimes because I feel it is kind of cheesy and i Dont say it in a bad way not at all.

Anyone hear of Worldview? (I think thats the name) I think its a Christian Supergroup with George Oocha in it I heard a clip and they sound pretty awesome theyre facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/worldviewmetal I think dudes from Sacred Warrior and Vengence Rising are also involved...

I was first introduced when I was 12 via Bloodgood -RIAHP...... loved it ever since. I listen to a lot of different bands, but I've always had an ear for lyrics & since I'm a Christian, I'm always gonna lean towards lyrics that reflect that world view.
Is there cheese in some? Yes.....but:
1. Cheesy lyrics are almost a grand tradition in Metal.  
2. Anyone who says that Christian metal lyrics are ALL Cheese hasn't delved very far.

  

I love a lot of Christian bands but honestly, it doesn't matter to me if a band worships God, Satan, Captain Kirk, Buddha, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, or the purple Teletubby. If they're a good band, they're a good band.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I love a lot of Christian bands but honestly, it doesn't matter to me if a band worships God, Satan, Captain Kirk, Buddha, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, or the purple Teletubby. If they're a good band, they're a good band.

Some of that list feels repetitive.  

Before I discovered Ult's website, my entire knowledge of "Christian metal" began and ended with Stryper and I thought they were goofy. I had no idea a whole genre (from rock to metal) existed.

Over the years, I've owned my share of Christian metal. Some is very good, some isn't. Just like any other genre I suppose. The bands I've kept over the years aren't too over-the-top in their message. The stuff that was overly preachy or full-on Flanders-like God rock was ditched. Too hokey for my taste.

That's cool Alex! Been listening to Christian metal for years now.Theres lots of good stuff out there and while back in the day you had a lot of copycat bands,there are many that are better than their secular counterparts.Vengeance Rising were originators back in the day and stuff like Sacrament and The Crucified is hard to beat.Newer stuff like Dissaffection and Grave Forsaken is also very good.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

I love a lot of Christian bands but honestly, it doesn't matter to me if a band worships God, Satan, Captain Kirk, Buddha, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, or the purple Teletubby. If they're a good band, they're a good band.

Some of that list feels repetitive.  

It's my standard response ...but I added J.R. Bob Dobbs this time out to mix it up a little.

Bands you need:

Angelica
Armageddon
Arnion
Barren cross
Believer
Betrayal
Bloodgood
Boarders
Bride
Broken silence
Corpse
Crimson thorn
The crucified
Crystavox
Daniel band
Degarmo and key
Deliverance
Die happy
Eden
Eternal decision
Ethereal scourge
Extol
Faith factor
Final axe
Fires of Babylon
Grave forsaken
Guardian
Haven
Holy soldier
Horde
Idle cure
Immortal souls
Lament
Last chapter
Letter 7
Leviticus
Living sacrifice
Mainline riders
Mastedon
Messiah prophet
Metanoia
Mortification
Moshketeers
Narnia
Once dead
Paramaecium
Petra
Place of skulls
Ransom
Red Sea
Resurrection band (Rez)
Rob rock
Sacred warrior
Saint
Sardonyx
Seventh angel
Seventh avenue
Shout
Sinbreed
Stairway
Stepcousin
Stryper
Sympathy
Sacrament
Temple of blood
Theocracy
Titanic
Tourniquet
Ultimatum
Vengeance rising
Whiteheart
Whitecross
X-sinner
Zion

I LOVE ME SOME CHRISTIAN METAL!!  


In addition to some of your current musical delvings check out Rob Rock's stuff... That is if you haven't already... well thought out lyrics great musicianship and great SONGS!!!

Holy Hell is perhaps my personal favorite but also the stuff he did with

FIRES OF BABYLON .... another simply great metal album.... not quite as melodic but still HEAVY!!!

 

To echo the sentiments of others.... Welcome to another world of HEAVY METAL!!!!

Oh, yeah, Theocracy is a great suggestion! The debut is currently being remixed with real drums. Sounds great!



 

There are a good handful of some very good bands, but I just feel most of the bands miss the mark and lack feeling, heart and soul that makes metal music what it is.

Some bands need to reform like Seventh Seal or Recon.

Eyesore wrote:

Oh, yeah, Theocracy is a great suggestion! The debut is currently being remixed with real drums. Sounds great!



 

I got into them with "as the world bleeds" and got "mirror of souls" shortly thereafter. Waiting to get the debut after it's remixed.  

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Some bands need to reform like Seventh Seal or Recon.

Technically, Recon *did* reform... except now they have the Sacred Warrior guy singing for them and call themselves "Worldview."

Its more of the mellower side, but dont forget Liberty N Justice. The Cigar Chronicles is one of the best "hair metal" albums ive heard in recent years (though i could take or leave the cover songs).

Hadley wrote:

Its more of the mellower side, but dont forget Liberty N Justice. The Cigar Chronicles is one of the best "hair metal" albums ive heard in recent years (though i could take or leave the cover songs).

Did the Cigar Chronicles finally get released on CD?

Liberty N Justice are more like AOR/melodic rock. It doesn't really have that nasty guitar sound or appeal like many of the "hair metal" bands. Of course that could get us into a big debate on what exactly hair metal is. Haha.

My problem with LnJ is it's not a band and with every song having a different vocalist it comes off more as a compilation than a solid album from a band. It doesn't flow from front to back and tends to get boring. I wish Justin Murr would have put a band together and got a vocalist so they could really jive and generate some chemistry. He's obviously a talented musician and songwriter, but sometimes having that 'feel' and 'chemistry' is also needed.

The one Worldview song I heard was pretty good.

I have most of the classic 80's melodic stuff (some of it is now worth big $) but it gets kind of formulaic and I usually only listen when nostalgic.
I prefer the melodic metal stuff from the 90's and later. My favorite band is Veni Domine and their unique brand of melodic/prog/doom. There are other bands that I gather were Christians but also wrote about other subject matter, the best being Balance of Power and Jacobs Dream. Place of Skulls. Other faves were bands like Narnia, Wisdom Call, Masquerade, and Laudemus, I think most of those were from Sweden.
What is interesting to me is that back before Christian rock became a niche market (Rez Band, Petra, Jerusalem were the earliest I knew of); it was very common for secular bands to write songs that dealt with biblical and Christian themes. It was done a lot. I didn't notice that it was done quite so much after the Christian rock market was established. Here are some songs from the "proto metal" era that explored Christian and biblical themes (I interpret them as being sympathetic to religion, but you gotta listen close to be sure).

Badger- On My Way Home
Bang- Lions, Christians
Clear Blue Sky- My Heaven
Frost- Through The Eyes of Love
Gomorrah- I Turned To See Whose Voice It was
Gomorrah- Open The Sealed Book
Help- Dear Lord
Horse- Journey
Nitzinger- Witness To The Truth
Pluto- Road To Glory
Stray- Hallelujah
Tractor- Every Time It Happens
Wishbone Ash- King Will Come

there are more, these songs and the hardest rockers among the bunch.
There was also the Doobies song, the Bob Dylan albums (Slow Train Comin', Shot of Love), Peter Green's In The Skies, etc.
I suppose you could count Sabbath's "After Forever" too, but the idea of those guys giving testimony just didn't seem credible at the time (LOL). I never really counted Trouble either.

p.s.-Does anybody remember Trytan (with the tiger on the cover)? I liked them too.

ultmetal wrote:

Did the Cigar Chronicles finally get released on CD?

Yeah.... the second disc in the set SMOKES!!!

Seventh Avenue is really good.

Fat Freddy wrote:

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Some bands need to reform like Seventh Seal or Recon.

Technically, Recon *did* reform... except now they have the Sacred Warrior guy singing for them and call themselves "Worldview."

And Sacred Warrior reformed with some other dude singing for them......

p.s.-Does anybody remember Trytan (with the tiger on the cover)? I liked them too. wrote:

I remember. Singer had sort of a Geddy Lee voice?

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

Bands you need:

Angelica
Armageddon
Arnion
Barren cross
Believer
Betrayal
Bloodgood
Boarders
Bride
Broken silence
Corpse
Crimson thorn
The crucified
Crystavox
Daniel band
Degarmo and key
Deliverance
Die happy
Eden
Eternal decision
Ethereal scourge
Extol
Faith factor
Final axe
Fires of Babylon
Grave forsaken
Guardian
Haven
Holy soldier
Horde
Idle cure
Immortal souls
Lament
Last chapter
Letter 7
Leviticus
Living sacrifice
Mainline riders
Mastedon
Messiah prophet
Metanoia
Mortification
Moshketeers
Narnia
Once dead
Paramaecium
Petra
Place of skulls
Ransom
Red Sea
Resurrection band (Rez)
Rob rock
Sacred warrior
Saint
Sardonyx
Seventh angel
Seventh avenue
Shout
Sinbreed
Stairway
Stepcousin
Stryper
Sympathy
Sacrament
Temple of blood
Theocracy
Titanic
Tourniquet
Ultimatum
Vengeance rising
Whiteheart
Whitecross
X-sinner
Zion

Second all these and add:
Fear Not
Crystavox
Halo
the Brave
Legend Seven
Grave Robber
SoulJourners
Disaffection
Pylon
Decyfer Down
Day of Fire
Darrell Mandfield
Join the Dead
King James
Novella
Precious Death
Sacrament
The Sacrificed
Saving Grace
Thieves & Liars
War of Ages
White Heart

By the way, welcome to a whole new world of excellent metal!! Christian metal is my personal preference as well.