Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:16 pm
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The movie handles it realistically
That's what I had the problem with. I couldn't sympathize with Bradley Cooper. Only the poor parents and neighbors that had to deal with his BS that, if I understood correctly, could have been prevented with proper medication that he chose not to take. Being an Eagles fan just made me dislike him even more.
I'm not on meds nor is anyone in my immediate family, so I could only relate to the other characters that have to deal with the crazies in their lives. I do that frequently enough without having to watch a movie about it.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:31 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
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The movie handles it realistically
That's what I had the problem with. I couldn't sympathize with Bradley Cooper. Only the poor parents and neighbors that had to deal with his BS that, if I understood correctly, could have been prevented with proper medication that he chose not to take. Being an Eagles fan just made me dislike him even more.
I'm not on meds nor is anyone in my immediate family, so I could only relate to the other characters that have to deal with the crazies in their lives. I do that frequently enough without having to watch a movie about it.
I have people in my family and have had friends with the same condition as Cooper's character in the film. He played it beautifully and should have won the best actor award. I was able to sympathize with him because I have a fairly good understanding of what the world feels like to a person suffering from his condition. The parents in the film have to force him to take his meds, the combination of that and Jennifer Lawrence forcing him to stop obsessing over his ex-wife is what triggers his improvement.
The side effects from the medication used to treat this stuff is truly awful and can be really disorienting when you first start taking it. I 100% understand why Cooper's character refused to take his medication in the beginning and that made the film feel even more accurate to real life.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:37 pm
There you have it. We watched the exact same movie, but from 2 different sides of the coin.
I also watched Star Wars and never quite understood what the big deal was about Darth Vadar. The man was building an Empire for Pete's sake. Those rebels were annoying trouble-makers.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:52 pm
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There you have it. We watched the exact same movie, but from 2 different sides of the coin.
I also watched Star Wars and never quite understood what the big deal was about Darth Vadar. The man was building an Empire for Pete's sake. Those rebels were annoying trouble-makers.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:27 am
"Zombie Strippers" (2008)
In this no-budget horror comedy starring former porn queen Jenna Jameson and Robert "Freddy Krueger" Englund (!!), a zombie virus gets loose in an underground strip club, slowly turning all of the dancers into flesh eating undead. Inexplicably, this turns out to be great for business (?) so the club owner looks the other way while the money rolls in and the girls devour an occasional customer...until things eventually spiral out of control. There's some nice gooey FX and zombie makeup but that's about all there is to recommend here.
I was told that this movie was "unwatchable" and I have to admit, it's pretty damn close. I made it through the whole thing but it was a tough slog. "Zombie Strippers" wants to be a campy-on-purpose monster mash ala "Planet Terror" but it isn't even in the same ballpark. It's just loud, gory and dumb.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:56 am
Elysium (cinema) - perfect. Fast & Furios 6
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:29 am
The Office, season 6. Breaking Bad, season 2. Can't Hardly Wait (1998) Hell on Wheels, pilot episode.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:41 am
Latest episode of Whose Line Is It Anyway
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:48 am
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The Office, season 6. Breaking Bad, season 2. Can't Hardly Wait (1998) Hell on Wheels, pilot episode.
How 'bout that Breaking Bad? Eh?
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:33 am
Watch some GWF wrestling.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:55 am
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Watch some GWF wrestling.
Yeah, I've been watching some of that on ESPN Classic too. These clips are long after that Federation was past its prime though.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:32 am
Alien 3 (assembly cut)
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:39 am
Pirates vs Cardinals.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:43 am
Touchy Feely (2013)
Offbeat little indie from director Lynn Shelton, excellent cast has fun with the mostly-improvised material.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:03 am
'Alien³' is....well, I hadn't watched the film in like 10 years before last night in glorious blu-ray...
Since I have the 'Alien Anthology' set, I elected to have another look at the 'Assembly Cut' which is the only one David Fincher is even remotely ok with having his name attached to.....
The first 20 minutes or so, up to and including the 'ox' scene are just magnificent...it brings a daring fresh air to the franchise, it immerses me in that world, it brings strong character portrayal....the shots are stunning...
And then it slowly goes downhill and ends up completely lost in tiny ways scattered throughout the film until a lot of it just loses the desired effect entirely.........................
Considering how much of a cluster making this movie was, though, I'm surprised it even got released at all..
A bittersweet revisitation for this Alien fan..
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:10 am
I remember Roger Ebert describing Alien 3 as "a really great-looking bad movie". The assembly cut is interesting yet still flawed. I would have preferred they had stuck with Vincent Ward's original script, but it was almost completely re-written.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:21 pm
Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
'Alien³' is....well, I hadn't watched the film in like 10 years before last night in glorious blu-ray...
Since I have the 'Alien Anthology' set, I elected to have another look at the 'Assembly Cut' which is the only one David Fincher is even remotely ok with having his name attached to.....
The first 20 minutes or so, up to and including the 'ox' scene are just magnificent...it brings a daring fresh air to the franchise, it immerses me in that world, it brings strong character portrayal....the shots are stunning...
And then it slowly goes downhill and ends up completely lost in tiny ways scattered throughout the film until a lot of it just loses the desired effect entirely.........................
Considering how much of a cluster making this movie was, though, I'm surprised it even got released at all..
A bittersweet revisitation for this Alien fan..
The newer cut is an improvement, but the most major augments happen in the first 20 min as you said. Personally, I love this movie, and it is oscar-worthy compared to Resurrection. It just looks so good, unlike any other movie of its time. Fincher really put his visual stamp on that film. It was just a bad script. Husks for characters is one thing, but killing of Newt and Hicks...what the hell kind of storytelling is that?! Anyway, the ending was more than satisfying, and it all should have ended there.
On another note, how about that box set? Best blu-ray package I've seen yet.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:36 pm
The Alien producers have serious issues butchering good scripts. They basically destroyed the scripts for both Alien 3 (Vincent Ward) and Alien Resurrection (Joss Whedon) by gutting them, re-writing them and misinterpreting what they left behind.
I read an interview with Whedon where he stated they got the delivery of almost every single line of dialogue wrong, his disgust over that film was one of the primary reasons he started directing...so he could control how his lines were delivered.
Whedon later took the crew of the salvage ship in Alien Resurrection and converted it into Firefly.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:47 pm
I liked the queen and the Newborn in 'Resurrection', for what it's worth, and appreciated Ryder in what she had to work with....
A cloned Ripley who is preggos with the alien jumps the shark in a major way....and the standard one-by-one fare, boring...
The overall look I liked, the style of direction... all the lighting is straight from 'City of Lost Children' which Jean-Pierre co-directed a few years prior.
'Resurrection' is an interesting disaster..
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:04 pm
Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
A cloned Ripley who is preggos with the alien jumps the shark in a major way....and the standard one-by-one fare, boring...
The producers came up with the basic plot (Ripley being cloned to extract the Alien) and then commissioned Whedon to "flesh out our idea and write the dialogue", they gave him a checklist of specific sequences they wanted and he stitched those into the script.
I think from a visual standpoint it's an interesting film, but the director really seemed unsure of comic dialogue timing and how to capture the appropriate balance between the horror & comedic elements. When you get the balance correct it can work beautifully, if the balance is off it falls completely apart.
It's still a better film than anything since (AVP films and Prometheus).
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:58 pm
I saw "Alien 3" in theatres when it came out. I was less than thrilled, especially after seeing this teaser months previously that seemed to indicate that the action was going to take place on Earth.
Legend has it that Fox was considering using story elements from Dark Horse Comics' first Aliens mini-series as the source material for the third film. In that comic, Newt was a teenager and Hicks was an alcoholic suffering from frequent flashbacks to his LV-426 experience...and Earth did eventually get overrun by the Aliens, if memory serves. It probably would've made a much better movie than what we wound up with...
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:59 pm
Whedon's script is actually a great read, and his conceptual design of the final alien is MILES scarier than the shitty obese blob they put in the film.
I didn't like a single bit of it. One of the worst, and ugliest movies, ever made. Crappy effects, comic-book style gore, bright and colorful unlike the dark and near-gothic gloom of the previous installments, and none of the tension and darkness the series is known for.
BTW, William Gibson's draft of Alien 3 was the best one; Ward's script is off-the-wall weird, not at all matching the tone of the first two. Gibson's starts slow but descends into madness with some good hard science (the cloning idea started there) and real grisly shit. They should have stuck with it.
As for AvP, I prefer to think of those as non-canonical and zero connection to the Alien mythology. They're nothing more than an insult.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:00 pm
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As for AvP, I prefer to think of those as non-canonical and zero connection to the Alien mythology. They're nothing more than an insult.
I got a kick out of the first AvP in a fanboy sort of way but yeah, I have no desire to ever re-visit either of those movies again.
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:02 pm
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It's still a better film than anything since (AVP films and Prometheus).
I still think 'Prometheus' is great, blows those three (AVP movies and Resurrection) out of the water very very easily, IMO...
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Subject: Re: TODAY I WATCHED (TV-series, Movies, Cinema Playlists) 2013 Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:03 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
I saw "Alien 3" in theatres when it came out. I was less than thrilled, especially after seeing this teaser months previously that seemed to indicate that the action was going to take place on Earth.
Legend has it that Fox was considering using story elements from Dark Horse Comics' first Aliens mini-series as the source material for the third film. In that comic, Newt was a teenager and Hicks was an alcoholic suffering from frequent flashbacks to his LV-426 experience...and Earth did eventually get overrun by the Aliens, if memory serves. It probably would've made a much better movie than what we wound up with...
Badass trailer, for sure.
The comic was a viable continuation of the story; I loved it, it was so f*cked up and dark, just depressing. It offered a much better explanation than Prometheus for the derelict.
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