Machine Head

^^ Unfortunately I can't see this happening. Rob Flynn even refused to join Vio-lence on the Thrash of the Titans benefit concert for Chuck & Chuck in 2001... which was so disrespectful given the circumstances I lost all my respect for this guy and never cared for Machine Head afterward. It was probably for my own good, as I've seen a clip on the telly once and it was some horrible rap-crap-nu-metal thing I couldn't care less for.

My opinion is about the same as ult's and a few others - Burn My Eyes and The Blackening are their best albums. The debut is alright, but nowhere near a favourite. The Blackening is much better. "Clenching The Fists Of Dissent" is a MONSTER song. However, I do think that Flynn's vocals can get tiresome. Machine Head ain't really the band I listen to the most, but there are 4-5 songs I really like, that get the most listens.

The only one I own is Burn My Eyes. Never felt compelled to go any further, based mostly on reviews and opinions I've read here at the Heart of Metal. I've thought about picking up The Blackeneing after seeing them open for Metallica, but it's not a priority at the moment.

ultmetal wrote:

Seems a pretty accurate description of this song to me,
"After an eerie thirty second intro, the follow-up song "Left Unfinished" is another heavy, groove-laden, modern metal song. The verses on this song, which are sort of half rapped and half shouted, and the stop/start riffing are definitely of the nu-metal variety."

Check out from about 1:00 to 1:20, or 2:09 - 2:22 in the song. You don't hear the "half rapped and half shouted" vocals?

I actually like some nu-metal, so I don't say that as some sort of put down. I consider bands like Sevendust and Disturbed to be nu-metal and I like them both a lot. I also like this song, but there is no doubt that some of those verses are "rap-style vocals", as Alex Dee Rockket described. I'm not saying it's 2Pac or Public Enemy.

I will not try to label that song anything, other than say that it is complete sh!t.

I don't really consider Disturbed "Nu-Metal", though - Maybe more so in their early days, but their later outputs have completely moved away from any of that - Just check the awesome "Indestructible" - there's no nu-metal AT ALL in that song. Disturbed have vertainly improved in the last few years, "Indestructible" being their best album, in my opinion.

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Machine Head - Through The Ashes Of Empires 7/10
Though crushing and pummeling and relentlessly rhythmic, Machine Head still kind of blow a lot of their momentum in this thing by washing out come verse time, or meandering into (or out of) doom at any other given moment. It's like they've put up a smokescreen at their naughty nu-metal mid-years, but the spikey hair and piercing cans still be glimpsed through watered eyes. What you get is a concerted return to glory (main Machinist Rob Flynn produced with Colin Richardson mixing), huge stony guitars everywhere, with sleight of hand references to nu and metalcore. Not sure what is stopping me from full applause. Maybe it's those roar/sing vocals, or the quite complicated structures track after track. But, still, man, this is heavy and bleak and deserves to be accepted by a majority of those who pin for Burn My Eyes Part II, yet understand it can never feel the same again.
-Martin Popoff

I saw M.H. open for Metallica two years ago. They weren't bad onstage (and they were nice enough to perform the one song of theirs I do like, "Imperium") but on record they do nothin' for me.

I saw MH open for Megadeth on the Cryptic Writings tour. They were very good on that tour.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I saw M.H. open for Metallica two years ago. They weren't bad onstage (and they were nice enough to perform the one song of theirs I do like, "Imperium") but on record they do nothin' for me.

I saw them on that tour as well. Decent enough, but nothing that made me seek out anymore of their albums. I'll stick with the lone album I have, Burn My Eyes.

I do own the following albums: Burn My Eyes, The More Things Change and The blackening. I would describe them as "utter smurf poo".
I need to check also the remaining albums.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I'll stick with the lone album I have, Burn My Eyes.

Smart move. It's the only one that is really good.

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ultmetal wrote:

I will not try to label that song anything, other than say that it is complete sh!t.

I don't really consider Disturbed "Nu-Metal", though - Maybe more so in their early days, but their later outputs have completely moved away from any of that - Just check the awesome "Indestructible" - there's no nu-metal AT ALL in that song. Disturbed have vertainly improved in the last few years, "Indestructible" being their best album, in my opinion.

Wow... why would you label that song sh!t? Because of the verse part? That song has an awesome chorus. I actually love this album. To me I thought it was a definate return to form with some new elements added. The most noticeable thing is the overall sound. Machine Head have their own distinctive sound and they completely left that behind for 2 albums. With "Ashes" they brought back their original sound and I think thats what really makes the album. The band just sounds like a monster again. They haven't released a bad album since. I even think the new album is better than the Blackening.

If people are affraid of bands experimenting once in a while then why bother listening to new albums?

I used to be really into this bad a while back. I especially remember liking Machine Head when I saw them in Mayhem Fest in 08. There is a lot of things I like about their music, but then there are things I really don't like about them. It's not the screaming etc that gets on my nerves. I just....don't feel anything from them. The focal point is not on the lyrics/vocals for this band obviously, that is something I hear from this band.

The band knows how to write a good riff, but it would be nice if they weren't pissed off for a change. That's my two cents.

I'm still hesitating about buying unto the locust...