Dimmu Borgir's Shagrath "takes on" AC/DC?

to you too buddy.

By the way, is my english good (i'm not american) ? i'm doing my best to express myself clearly.

you're doing fine. i'm just slow on the uptake.

Gilbert wrote:

I'm newly into AC/DC, but i already think that their sound is so unique and all their albums are exceptional. Who the f*** is Shagrath to come out with such stupid criticism?

Who cares? A bazillion other people agree with him.

Gilbert wrote:

no, seriously...i have my opinion on black metal. as much as you don't like it, you don't have to. and nobody would care...

You know, back fifty years ago or so, lots of white people had the same sort of ignorant opinions about black people. Blanket labeling is just ridiculous. And when you come out swinging with such opinions, like you have here, you should stand behind them and defend your opinion with intelligence and maturity. Somehow, a few posts back, you turned into a 12-year-old Blabbermouth poster.

If you know every black metal band, and all their varying messages and beliefs, then by all means claim to be an expert who can lay down such a broad statement as "black metal sucks." But we all know there's no way you can know all that.

EDIT: I should have continued reading the posts, huh?

Well. That was odd.

That indeed was odd.

I both agree and disagree with what Gilbert is trying to express.

I think he is just trying to defend passion for good ol' Heavy Metal that he and all the members of this great forum share and love. You do come off a bit like myself when I first joined this board, Gilbert. I came in with the same love for "real" Heavy Metal, and I was quite pissed off at the music industry today (still am). I don't really think Gilbert has a problem with the actual music, it's just more their fans and why they are so popular. Believe me, it can piss me off as well. But it's the same story with the old "Metallica Selling Out" discussion - A lot of old turds rag and rag and RAG about how they "Sold out, they promised to never do a video, but they did, Blah Blah BLAH!" - And come up with all kinds of accusations of why it is that they did, when really they have no freaking clue. Their just coming up with negative theories to back them up ("KingGodSpace" spends more time bashing them than actually reviewing their music - moron). Same with the whole "Black Metal is satanic" discussion - Nobody can point out individual bands and say why it is they express the message they do - Sure, in most cases it is probably an immature marketing gimmick, and they do not really believe in what they sing - But nobody knows what bands do it, and who the f**k even cares? Giblert, you come off like a lot of those moronic polititions after the shootings at Colombine High School - "Oh, it's Marylin Manson's fault they did it, because they were listening to him all the time" - BULL CRAP. Same with these fans - It's their own immature, poser personalities that cause it. And just let them. Let them go do and say all their crap and then we can just laugh at them. I don't mean to say you are moronic, Gilbert, by any means. I understand your point of view.

Shagrath never insulted AC/DC, just merely expressed his opinion.

Mglaffas

This is what's killing metal music. R.I.P Heavy metal.........

.......seems like this discussion is useless.....I'm out........

Gilbert wrote:

This is what's killing metal music. R.I.P Heavy metal.........

What are you talking about? Stop being such a pesimist - Heavy Metal will live FOREVER

Gilbert wrote:

This is what's killing metal music. R.I.P Heavy metal.........

Discussion is killing metal? You're kidding me.

A long, long time ago
I can still remember how
That music used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died(*)

So, bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so
Now do you believe in rock and roll
Can music save your mortal soul
And can you teach me how to dance real slow

Well, I know that you're in love with him
'Cause I saw you dancin' in the gym
You both kicked off your shoes
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues
I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died
I started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Now, for ten years we've been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rolling stone
But, that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the king and queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
And a voice that came from you and me
Oh, and while the king was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
And while Lennon read a book on Marx
The quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died
We were singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Helter skelter in a summer swelter
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter
Eight miles high and falling fast
Landed flat on the grass
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast
Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died
We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again
So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candlestick
'Cause fire is the devil's only friend
And as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan's spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play
And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed
But not a word was [Spoken]
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire most
The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died
And they were singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

They were singin'
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Wow. What an interesting read this thread turned out to be. Glad I checked back in on it.

As for the original "insult", I dunno, seemed pretty tame to me. We've probably made harsher comments about AC/DC on this very message board.

Gilbert wrote:

This is what's killing metal music. R.I.P Heavy metal.........

You can't kill metal music, man. This isn't some exclusive club, either, where only cool, "true" music fans get to hang out. That sort of thinking is what makes the metal community annoying.

I got Beth Hart jammin' right now. How's that for metal?

Gilbert: OK, we get it. You don't like black/death metal. I don't either. But I don't think fans of those genres are any less "metal" than I am.

In another thread you're "against" female vocalists in metal bands, too... so tell us, what the heck DO you like?

Just curious.

I don't like investors messing up with my favourite music, trying to invent "new genres" which aren't really music, and convincing easily influencable kids to buy crap cds...............I rest my case, and i'm out of this thread...........

Gilbert, I know what you are feeling now. You are defending yourself, just like I first did when I joined this board - But nobody is trying to break you - We are all friends on this amazing board, and we have huge respect for each other.

Peace, Bro

this is the extent to which DB is useful to me:






Alex

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Alex

exact33 wrote:

sam wrote:

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Alex

he smells your fear and he is immortal are my favorites.

We all know Ac/Dc isnt the most talented band on the earth and they're pretty much just a plain old rock n roll band, but nothing is wrong with that and look what it has done for them.

I'm not a fan of any black metal but my take on words is "WHO CARES".

MetalRob331 wrote:

We all know Ac/Dc isnt the most talented band on the earth....

That probably bugs me more than the original criticism of AC/DC........the way Malcolm Young holds down that rhythm guitar is one of the hardest jobs in rock n' roll, you need a bit to do what he does. Simplicity can be deceiving.

rattpoison wrote:

MetalRob331 wrote:

We all know Ac/Dc isnt the most talented band on the earth....

That probably bugs me more than the original criticism of AC/DC........the way Malcolm Young holds down that rhythm guitar is one of the hardest jobs in rock n' roll, you need a bit to do what he does. Simplicity can be deceiving.

My homeboy da Vince once said, "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."