McCain or Obama

spectrefate wrote:

If Sarah Palin becomes VP, she'll make Dan Quayle look like a Rhodes Scholar.

Her legs are better than Dan Quayle's though.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Her legs are better than Dan Quayle's though.

So true, so true.

I think I may end up voting Nader again

DeathCult wrote:

I think I may end up voting Nader again

Might as well not vote at all.

Schbopo wrote:

DeathCult wrote:

I think I may end up voting Nader again

Might as well not vote at all.

Technically, none of it counts if its nto electoral.

And what do you know anyway juinor?

I'm not saying that you shouldn't vote 3rd party, but we both know that Nader or any other 3rd party candidate is never going to win.

Schbopo wrote:

I'm not saying that you shouldn't vote 3rd party, but we both know that Nader or any other 3rd party candidate is never going to win.

Irrelevent. Some people, myself included, can't stomach voting for either of the two that have been "offered" up. I'll be voting for Chuck Baldwin tomorrow evening.

I will be proudly supporting Barack Obama.

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the first VPILF

This is awesome!

MetalH wrote:

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the first VPILF

This is awesome!

I didnt see that! Thats funnier than hell

All thanks to Dallas Black.

Looks like Joe Perry is for McCain. After all the celebrity driven support for Obama i think it's good to see someone have the guts to go against the grain.

http://www.spinner.com/2008/11/01/aerosmiths-joe-perry-gets-behind-mccain/?icid=200100397x1212868886x1200794898

troublezone wrote:

Looks like Joe Perry is for McCain. After all the celebrity driven support for Obama i think it's good to see someone have the guts to go against the grain.

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He's not the only one there is also Ted Nugent (of course), Kelsley Gramar, John Voit, Dennis Hopper, James Woods, David Zucker, and some others. They're there, they're just not as pushy and loud as the others.

either way we're screwed

Addy wrote:

either way we're screwed

At least for the next four years anyway.

4 or 8 yrs

and whose to say the canadate after the next prez will do any better

[quote="DallasBlack"]

troublezone wrote:

Looks like Joe Perry is for McCain. After all the celebrity driven support for Obama i think it's good to see someone have the guts to go against the grain.

http://www.spinner.com/2008/11/01/aerosmiths-joe-perry-gets-behind-mccain/?icid=200100397x1212868886x1200794898[/quote]

He's not the only one there is also Ted Nugent (of course), Kelsley Gramar, John Voit, Dennis Hopper, James Woods, David Zucker, and some others. They're there, they're just not as pushy and loud as the others.

I like Joe's attitude on this - all for working to achieve success, as opposed to a government handout.

Did anybody see Homer Simpson trying to vote for Obama at the start of this past Sunday's "Treehouse of Horror" episode?

DallasBlack wrote:

Addy wrote:

either way we're screwed

At least for the next four years anyway.

Well, if obama wins, he'll screw things up so bad that the it'll kick the dems out of power for a few years. Anyone other than me old enough to remember the carter administration? It was pretty bad.....

Fat Freddy wrote:

Did anybody see Homer Simpson trying to vote for Obama at the start of this past Sunday's "Treehouse of Horror" episode?

That's one thing that makes The Simpson's better than Family Guy (though overall I prefer Family Guy). The Simpsons manage to make liberal propaganda funny. Most of the time when Family Guy does it it comes off as being bitter and over the top.

Intersting video of Obama more or less giving McCain the finger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnEhmbKazdw

This a letter from Blackie Lawless, another supporter of McCain in this election,
taken from the KNAC website.


Blackie Lawless Speaks His Mind on the Election



"Read in Case of National Emergency"

by Blackie Lawless

"We the people of the United States'. These are the first 7 words of the Constitution of the United States of America. As I stood in the reception area of the Pentagon in Washington D.C. early this year, a large recreation of that Constitution was posted on the wall. It's the first thing you see as you enter the building. "We the People of the United States", I stared at it and said: "I'd die for that idea"!

I've written in the past, I love my country, but I'm scared to death of its government. That idea for me has taken a new twist in this coming election.

I'd first like to point out that I am not a John McCain supporter. I have been critical of the U. S. Government for years, and I, like most of my fellow Americans am angry and frustrated with the lying, manipulation and partisanship of the elected officials, both local and national, Democrat and Republican, of this country.

The Founding Fathers of this Country wrote this Constitution, with all it's Amendments, as THE Cornerstone that this country would be governed by. We Americans now find ourselves on the eve of, without a doubt, THE most important election of our lifetime. In a time of World uncertainty, the volatility of the global financial Markets, the Middle East at war, Russia invading Georgia, Iran and North Korea attempting to develop nuclear weapons and with that Iran threatening to "Wipe Israel Off the Map", the entire world is at a dangerous point in history.

I grew up and lived with the ideals and philosophy of the "Counter Culture" Generation. "Peace and Love", " Flower Power", "Stop the War", Never Trust anybody Over 30". "Stop the War" was absolutely correct! Vietnam was a disaster and more than 50,000 U. S. Soldiers died for that mistake.,p> But the rest was a load of naïve, idealist, "we can change the world", CRAP!

Not that some of those sentiments weren't a good idea. It's just that this generation of self-serving, selfish, spoiled brats has now come of age. They are the ones that now have perpetuated the greed and the lies of the Wall Street Bailout and a laundry list of other political atrocities too numerous to mention. The weakness of true conviction to teach their children about the values and history of this Nation. Their children know nothing of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Washington, Lincoln or the understanding that this Great Nation was built on the Dreams, the Tears, the back breaking Labor, the unending sacrifice and the Blood spilled by the generations before them that sacrificed their all, including the men and women that gave their lives, and the ones that will give their lives in defense of this "Great Experiment", this Great American Dream. If you don't think so, go up to most any of their kids on the street and ask them about the Founding Fathers. More than likely they'll think its some new rap group. It's not just a glimpse into poor enlightenment. It's an indictment on their parents.

The generation that was going to change the world certainly did. Their gluttony for botox, living on credit cards, busy being fabulous and its all about me, me, me cause I'm better than you. "All You Need is Love"…. I'm sorry pal, you missed the boat, all you really need is some guts and character. I'm disgusted and ashamed to be part of it. Instead, that generation with their 'Woodstock / Marxist" Scream - Dream are the ones which now control the majority of the mainstream media in this country. That includes almost all Television and almost all Newspapers. They are the ones that now bring the extreme liberal, radical 60's utopian vision of their world to the American people. The extreme liberal bias of the mainstream American Media which are now controlled by these "Yuppies" have conspired to deceive, manipulate, suppress the truth, promote their candidate at all costs and bury any story that does not put a halo around the head of that candidate. It is with this that the American People are brought Barak Obama.

This man is a product of that Extreme Leftist – Marxist movement that has been building in this country for over 40 years. He is a product of the Harvard far left. He is the face and mouthpiece of a movement that is Hell Bent on breaking up the U. S. Constitution and reassembling it to conform to their vision. He is a lawyer, the Democratic Johnny Cochran, in which every time he speaks gives a closing argument. He is the embodiment of the New Democratic Machine.

When I was a kid everyone I knew were Democrats, but these are not your fathers Democrats anymore. They are part of some liberal elite that looks down on the ideals that made this Country great. This Leftist Machine has hidden the truth from the American People (and the World) and continues to deceive at any cost.

Right now, as I write, the L. A. Times Newspaper has a videotape, which it refuses to release to the American Public, which shows Obama at a farewell dinner celebration for the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Spokesman Rashid Khalidi. He was also a spokesman for Yassir Arafat. In this tape are the recorded verbal attacks on Israel and the Israeli People and reference to Israel as a terrorist state.

Reportedly, the Domestic terrorist Bill Ayres, who as part of the "Weather Underground" terrorist organization bombed several U. S. targets including the Pentagon and the home of a U. S. Judge and killing 2 policemen in the process, was also at this dinner. Obama has been close friends with Khalidi and Ayers for many years. The oath of President requires that the President will "protect the United States against all enemies, both Foreign AND Domestic". Guess he didn't read that part!

Now, what should be of utmost concern to the American People are the repeated denials by Obama, that he has no ties to any of these people. If he has nothing to hide why not be truthful with the American Public and request the L. A. Times to release this videotape for us all to see. If it turns out to be nothing then at least the truth will be served. From Obama's 20 year association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright who has repeatedly said: "It's not God Bless America, No, No, No, It's God Damn America!

Obama sat in Wrights church and listened to this Treason for 20 years. Wright also performed Obama's marriage and Baptized both of his children. Obama was an organizer for Acorn, the group now accused of massive voter registration fraud. Some working for Acorn have already been jailed for this. Obama was also Acorns lawyer for a time. Obama recently donated over $800,000 to Acorn. He accuses Americans for "clinging to their guns and religion". Never in the history of the United States has any Presidential candidate had a shroud of controversy surround them as has Obama. If someone would have told me 2 years ago that anybody with these associations could get nominated for their party, or even dog catcher, much less President of the United States, I would have said your insane.

My reasons for starting this letter with the first line of the Constitution is to reference a radio interview Obama did in which he says the U. S. Supreme Court did not go far enough in attempting to provide reparations to African- Americans and that the Earl Warren edition of the Supreme Court was not liberal enough. That Court was probably the most liberal in U.S. history.

It is not the job of the Supreme Court to be liberal or conservative. It is to interpret the Constitution… period. It is not to legislate from the bench based on the "general consensus of the people" as stated in a recent Supreme Court ruling, but rather to make its rulings based on the precise wording of the Constitution. If at some point "the people" wish to have any new amendment to the Constitution based on their modern day ideals, then all 50 states must ratify it….period. This is the Obama quote from that interview with radio station WBEZ.FM in Chicago. This is not taken out of context. It is the entire quote:

"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the Federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn't shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put t ogether the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that".

These are things he would NEVER say in front of a national audience. He only says and does these things when he thinks his base group is listening. In this interview he is making it clear that if elected, he would nominate Supreme Court Justices that will put forth his agenda's, "redistribution of wealth", his idea of "economic justice" and "redistributive change" which are other words for reparations for slavery and a Marxist redistribution of wealth which is no more than welfare.

Thomas Jefferson wrote in The Declaration of Independence about 'Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of Happiness. This PURSUIT is not a guarantee of wealth or any form of happiness, but the chance to raise one-self up. This government never has, nor ever will, nor ever should provide for anything more than this.

It is ironic that Obama's supporters so often refer to him as a new John F. Kennedy.

Senator Obama should be reminded that it was JFK in his inaugural address that said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for you country". That is the TRUE American Spirit!

On the issue of taxes, in effort to "spread the wealth around" he first defined the rich as making $300,000 then he said it was $250,000 then he said $200,000, then a few days ago Joe Biden said it would be $150,000. So, what's the real number? This is more about him not being truthful with the public.

Will all of his tax schemes of taxing anyone who makes over $250,000 (or whatever it is) a year destroy our economy, yeah, just like Jimmy Carter did in the 70's and Herbert Hoover before him. It's not the individual that makes that much money that's the issue. If this were only about individuals then that could be argued. But what he doesn't tell you is what it does to businesses. Most any business that creates that much revenue MUST employ a number of people. If the business is taxed upwards of 30% or more then those jobs are gone…its that simple.

There have been a lot of charges about racism in this election from the Obama side. I personally have never been a racist. Any of you that know me, know I've said many times that after my Father, Muhammad Ali has been the biggest influence in my life. But there definitely is racism in this election. 96 to 97% of African-Americans polled in this election say they will vote for Obama. Never in the history of this country has ANY candidate ever had such overwhelming numbers from any group. White, Black, Hispanic, Asian or other. The traveling Political, Racist, Circus called Acorn, which Obama worked with for years, is creating and sponsoring voter fraud across the country by registering illegal immigrants, the Dallas Cowboys and Mickey Mouse. This is no joke. Acorn has actually done this and much, much more. Their belief is win …. at any cost…. the Constitution be Dammed!

If that's not prejudice, I don't know what is.

The books Obama has written about himself are very clear as to his true ambitions concerning his Leftist, Marxist views but the average person will not take the time to read them, In the 1920's while in prison, a young Adolf Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" (My Struggle) which outlined his entire plan for World Domination and the extermination of the Jewish race. No one would read it, and then when they did it was too late…. any book that was not approved by the Nazi Party was burned. The "Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx at one time, was required reading in our schools. This book is Obama's "How To" guide with his ideal of the "Redistribution of Wealth". If you don't think so, go back and look at the above radio interview. Somewhere Karl Marx with his Godless, Utopian vision is laughing in delight.

If it is true that "What is Past, is Prologue" then we need look no further than Obama's books. His blueprint is there in black and white. Literally and figuratively.

I will vote for McCain, not because I believe in all he stands for, but as a mandate against Obama, to keep him from becoming President. Yes, I will cling to my guns and my religion, and continue to believe in the Constitution, the Cornerstone of our society and trust that this is STILL a "Government of the People, By the People, For the People".

The point of all this is, that no matter whatever any of us encounter in life, look for the truth. The truth can and will stand up to anything. If that truth cannot stand up to scrutiny then you must see it and call it for what it truly is. If any would be Messiah comes along and he looks like it, acts like it and smells like it then you call him what he truly is… a Marxist, in Socialist clothing!

I challenge all Americans to go back and READ the Constitution of the United States, READ the Declaration of Independence.

Decide for Yourself

God Help Us. … God Bless America

I encourage anyone who understands this letter and is moved to action, to send this letter in an email to everyone you know, to all who will listen!

- Blackie Lawless

People are saying that McCain, if elected at age 72, will die in office. However, for his age he is very, very healthy. I'm not voting for him, but that assumption is out there. Also, if Obama is elected, people say there will be an assassination. This assumption is out there too, people will be too scared to assassinate a president. I don't know what will happen. We'll all find out tonight!

Gee I will now change my vote because Blackie Lawless supports McCain, because I really do care what a c list celebrity has to say.

manny wrote:

Gee I will now change my vote because Blackie Lawless supports McCain, because I really do care what a c list celebrity has to say.

That's what I thought too.

I just thought I would post another person's opinion trying to use their celebrity status to sway votes. At this stage of the game I think people have made up their minds and are not going to be influenced by this type of thing.

I voted last week and didn't even bother reading through his whole rant anyway.