CA allows g4y marriage

mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

I agree with mc666, merry marriage or civil unions or whatever you want to call it, it is going happen and it will not cause the fall of western civilation.

As matter fact I think it will cause a great deal of indifference. Live and let live.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37962 Age : 54

Good grief... I made one wise-ass comment about Wanda Sykes and I kicked over quite a hornet's nest didn't I?? Shocked

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scottmitchell74 wrote:

Quote :: Like all of you Christians haven't popped your woman's poope

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I don't get how this is connected. It's still a man-woman act. What's unnatural about that?

It's sodomy, which is apparently a sin, and justification for hate against gays.

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Fat Freddy wrote:: Good grief... I made one wise-ass comment about Wanda Sykes and I kicked over quite a hornet's nest didn't I??

Yes you did you heartless bastard! Very Happy

I'm not getting into any arguments over this subject, it accomplishes nothing (though I remain of the belief that marriage is only between a man and a woman). Whether merry marriage is allowed or not, as long as it's up to the voters, what happens happens. I don't believe the government has any right to allow or disallow merry marriage. In America, it's the will of the people that counts. That is why, while I don't like Obama I accept him as President because the people elected him. I am only responsible for my own actions, not others.

Subject: Re: CA allows g4y marriage Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:18 am

Quote :: It's sodomy

Who says it's sodomy?

Who says it's a sin?

Are you reading archaic law?

Are you reading a different Bible?

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Quote :: It's sodomy

Who says it's sodomy?

Who says it's a sin?

Are you reading archaic law?

Are you reading a different Bible?

That and oral are illegal in VA.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37962 Age : 54

thejokeriv wrote:: That and oral are illegal in VA.

Isn't pretty much EVERYTHING illegal in VA?

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Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

Fat Freddy wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:: That and oral are illegal in VA.

Isn't pretty much EVERYTHING illegal in VA?

LOL!!!! They don't actually charge people with those "crimes", they are just on the books from centuries ago.

As far those things being sin in marriage, depends if you believe in the doctrine of biblical inerrancy and if so then which scripture verse you choose to believe

Road Warrior Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48

thejokeriv wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:: That and oral are illegal in VA.

Isn't pretty much EVERYTHING illegal in VA?

LOL!!!! They don't actually charge people with those "crimes", they are just on the books from centuries ago.

As far those things being sin in marriage, depends if you believe in the doctrine of biblical inerrancy and if so then which scripture verse you choose to believe

If it isn't condemned in scripture then it's up to the individual to decide if he or she is comfortable with it.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 28656 Age : 39

I think it is a good thing. I am for homosexual marriage.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4214 Age : 50

Frankly I dont care myself but im not surprised that California is the 2nd state to allow it, not surprised at all

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Addy wrote:: Frankly I dont care myself but im not surprised that California is the 2nd state to allow it, not surprised at all

Actually, civil unions between homosexuals are legal, but the term marriage was declared to be only between a man and a woman. Most people don't realize that, they think that this is denying homosexuals the same rights as married people, which is not the case. They just can't call it marriage. Considering the people voted for this in California, that IS a suprise.

Metal novice Number of posts : 16 Age : 34

Civil Unions are different, though. There are rights restricted to marriage that civil unions do not have, and that's why it's unequal. For instance, there are certain federal/tax benefits that married people have that people in civil unions do not have. I for one, even though I do not live in California, am very upset that Proposition 8 passed. Even though Christians believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, there is supposed to be a Separation of Church and State. Christianity-- or any other religion for that matter-- should not be allowed to completely influence America's laws.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to be rude or look down on anyone's religion or anything! I respect you all! I just believe that religion shouldn't have a place in politics, even if Prop. 8 wasn't fueled by it. (Though I kinda think it was)

Road Warrior Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48

Addy wrote:: Frankly I dont care myself but im not surprised that California is the 2nd state to allow it, not surprised at all

We just banned it. Four San Francisco judges went against voters wishes the first time.

Road Warrior Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48

King D wrote:: Civil Unions are different, though. There are rights restricted to marriage that civil unions do not have, and that's why it's unequal. For instance, there are certain federal/tax benefits that married people have that people in civil unions do not have. I for one, even though I do not live in California, am very upset that Proposition 8 passed. Even though Christians believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, there is supposed to be a Separation of Church and State. Christianity-- or any other religion for that matter-- should not be allowed to completely influence America's laws.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to be rude or look down on anyone's religion or anything! I respect you all! I just believe that religion shouldn't have a place in politics, even if Prop. 8 wasn't fueled by it. (Though I kinda think it was)

I'm pretty sure that not all the people that voted for prop 8 were Christian. Many different cultures don't like it.

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King D wrote:: Civil Unions are different, though. There are rights restricted to marriage that civil unions do not have, and that's why it's unequal. For instance, there are certain federal/tax benefits that married people have that people in civil unions do not have. I for one, even though I do not live in California, am very upset that Proposition 8 passed. Even though Christians believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, there is supposed to be a Separation of Church and State. Christianity-- or any other religion for that matter-- should not be allowed to completely influence America's laws.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to be rude or look down on anyone's religion or anything! I respect you all! I just believe that religion shouldn't have a place in politics, even if Prop. 8 wasn't fueled by it. (Though I kinda think it was)

Sorry, but this was a voter decision, this had nothing to do with a religious institution implementing public policy so separation of church and state has nothing to do with that law. Yeah, there were probably many Christians who voted for it, but they have just as much a right to vote as anybody else. Separation of church and state is supposed to protect religion from government. You can't say to someone that because they are of a certain religious belief that their vote doesn't count. The fact is that the majority still rules in this country. Until the majority changes policy will remain as it is.

Subject: Re: CA allows g4y marriage Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:34 pm

Saying that I shouldn't let my faith interfere with politics is denying myself the ability to express my beliefs. Freedom of expression is all and good until someone tries to express their spiritual beliefs; then, it's a "crime" against "progress" and "free thinking."

My 2 cents.

nOOb master Number of posts : 4429 Age : 35

cant say i am a huge fan of homosexuality but it is legal for "merry" marriage in the uk and to be honest it has made no real big difference to society. well you cant have a merry marriage. its a civil ceremony that allows homosexuals to have rights in the event of a split.

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xyz wrote:: Saying that I shouldn't let my faith interfere with politics is denying myself the ability to express my beliefs. Freedom of expression is all and good until someone tries to express their spiritual beliefs; then, it's a "crime" against "progress" and "free thinking."

My 2 cents.

I agree. Certain people cry foul when you express your faith in politics but otherwise couldn't care less.

Road Warrior Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48

TheGooch wrote:: cant say i am a huge fan of homosexuality but it is legal for "merry" marriage in the uk and to be honest it has made no real big difference to society. well you cant have a merry marriage. its a civil ceremony that allows homosexuals to have rights in the event of a split.

So it's legal civil union or marriage?

nOOb master Number of posts : 4429 Age : 35

no only a civil union. its illegal for a merry couple to get married in church or so i am led to believe

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 2522 Age : 56

troublezone wrote:

xyz wrote:: Saying that I shouldn't let my faith interfere with politics is denying myself the ability to express my beliefs. Freedom of expression is all and good until someone tries to express their spiritual beliefs; then, it's a "crime" against "progress" and "free thinking."

My 2 cents.

I agree. Certain people cry foul when you express your faith in politics but otherwise couldn't care less.

No matter what Religion?
Is it ok for Muslims, Buddists, Satanists ++ to express their faith in politics?

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Olafsto wrote:

troublezone wrote:

xyz wrote:: Saying that I shouldn't let my faith interfere with politics is denying myself the ability to express my beliefs. Freedom of expression is all and good until someone tries to express their spiritual beliefs; then, it's a "crime" against "progress" and "free thinking."

My 2 cents.

I agree. Certain people cry foul when you express your faith in politics but otherwise couldn't care less.

No matter what Religion?
Is it ok for Muslims, Buddists, Satanists ++ to express their faith in politics?

Sure, their votes count just as much as anybody's. However, being in the minority they might not have much impact.

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If you're against g4y marraige, don't marry a g4y person...settled.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 2522 Age : 56

Shawn Of Fire wrote:: If you're against g4y marraige, don't marry a g4y person...settled.

It really is that simple!! humble