Heaven & Hell

Whatever dood, by 07 I will have stolen your band for the third time and renamed it!

it shouldn't have been renamed in the first place. i feel Sharon had a part in that.

I'm looking forward to new music from Heaven & Hell. I don't really mind the new name.

mc666 wrote:

it shouldn't have been renamed in the first place. i feel Sharon had a part in that.

That's what I thought too...but it was all Tony Iommi (w/ everyone esle agreeing). He felt that if they had gone out as "Black Sabbath", people would have expected "Paranoid" & "Iron Man" & other Ozzy-era songs when they really only wanted to focus on the Dio-era. Tony owns the BLACK SABBATH name free & clear.

i still wish they had the name black sabbath instead of heaven and hell as i think it sounds better than naming it after an album

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

mc666 wrote:

it shouldn't have been renamed in the first place. i feel Sharon had a part in that.

That's what I thought too...but it was all Tony Iommi (w/ everyone esle agreeing). He felt that if they had gone out as "Black Sabbath", people would have expected "Paranoid" & "Iron Man" & other Ozzy-era songs when they really only wanted to focus on the Dio-era. Tony owns the BLACK SABBATH name free & clear.

That may be true, but I still think he went with the name change just to avoid any hassle with Sharon. Look at how much of a stink she raised just because they were touring in the 1st place. Imagine if they went forward with the Sabbath name? She'd be up his arse and in the press every second crying foul, saying it's not Sabbath without Ozzy. He probably did it to shut her pie-hole.

I can see that MetalGuy. ANYTHING to shut her pie hole is a good thing. Man that is one woman that just bugs the crap outta me.

zombiewalkin wrote:

I can see that MetalGuy. ANYTHING to shut her pie hole is a good thing. Man that is one woman that just bugs the crap outta me.

Same here.

I think the Sharon thing is just a benefit of the decision...not the reason for it.

I don't care what they call themselves as long as Dio, Iommi, Geezer and Appice keep cranking out the METAL!

I agree totally with Ult.

ultmetal wrote:

I don't care what they call themselves as long as Dio, Iommi, Geezer and Appice keep cranking out the METAL!

what if they call themselves Ultimatum?

i hope the new lineup plays some ozzy stuff because it is not like they have never played it before. in fact i am listening to live evil right now. i feel they should at least play black sabbathas it is the title track

candlemass wrote:

Whatever dood, by 07 I will have stolen your band for the third time and renamed it!

I would've LOVED to have been a fly on the wall to overhear this conversation. Any idea when this photo was taken? Cuz who knows, if it were taken during the mid 80s when both of them were solo artists, it might've sounded like this:
Ozzy: "So, that Tony Iommi, what a bleedin' twit, eh?"
Ronnie: "You ain't kidding brother. I will NEVER work with that man again."
Ozzy: "Amen! Me neither!"

I hope that don't play anything from the Ozzy era, we had our fill of that for the last ten years, there's plenty of material from the Dio era to be enjoyed!

candlemass wrote:

I hope that don't play anything from the Ozzy era, we had our fill of that for the last ten years, there's plenty of material from the Dio era to be enjoyed!

Heaven and Hell and Black Sabbath are two different bands (well technically, they're the same). So, they shouldn't have to do songs by a different band.

TheGooch wrote:

i still wish they had the name black sabbath instead of heaven and hell as i think it sounds better than naming it after an album

Agreed.

I think they renamed due to their touring with Ozzy this or next year, I'm actually hoping that the real reason is they want to continue recording as Sabbath with Ozzy, but it's a long shot.

The reason its called H&H is that BS as it is (with Ozzy) hasnt really broken up but is an open book at this point. They didnt want two BS at the same time.

Here is some news on the new Black Sabbath album:

U.K.'s Classic Rock Magazine has heard three unfinished tracks from the forthcoming debut album from Heaven And Hell — the band featuring Black Sabbath members Tony Iommi (guitar), Ronnie James Dio (vocals), Geezer Butler (bass) and Vinny Appice (drums). In a world-exclusive, the magazine visited the group on the final day of tracking at Rockfield Studios in Wales, U.K.

According to a posting on the Classic Rock web site, "The songs we heard were a moody, thuddingly malevolent number called 'Rock 'N' Roll Jesus,' the pacier and more anthemic 'Neverwhere,' and a slice of sloth-like majesty that's likely to be titled 'Breaking Into Heaven.'"

Other tracks reported to be appearing on the album include "Bible Black," "Double Pain" and "Atom + Evil." The album is expected to be released by the end of April through Rhino Records.

"Each of us submitted a CD of our ideas, and we narrowed it down from there," Iommi told Classic Rock. "In some ways it was like picking up where we'd left off with 'Dehumanizer' [Sabbath's 1992 album], which was also done at Rockfield."

In a recent interview with Revolver magazine, Ronnie James Dio described the material on the Heaven And Hell album as "a real cross-section of everything we've done, from 'Heaven and Hell' through 'Mob Rules' and 'Dehumanizer.' I think there's a lot of 'Dehumanizer' in it, but a lot of other things, too, a real good blend of what this band has represented."

TheGooch wrote:

i still wish they had the name black sabbath instead of heaven and hell as i think it sounds better than naming it after an album

The band Black Sabbath was named that after they wrote the song "Black Sabbath"...what's the dif??

Bring on the HEAVEN AND HELL!!!! Those 3 new songs on The Dio Years were amazing!!!

I find myself calling the band Black Sabbath most of the time or Dio Sabbath but it really doesn't bother me too much one way or the other. I have seen the band twice with Dio once with Ozzy and once with Ian Gillan. They were all great shows and I didn't feel cheated out of any songs from any of the set lists. I do feel that Dio does his songs best and I don't dislike any of the tunes he has done and they more than fill a great setlist with out going back into Ozzy era tunes. Same thing with Ozzy, I don't really think he could do Sign of The Southern Cross or Mob Rules justice but he is great at what he does

mc666 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I don't care what they call themselves as long as Dio, Iommi, Geezer and Appice keep cranking out the METAL!

what if they call themselves Ultimatum?

Then the fans will expect to hear "Blink" or "Heart of Metal".

Muloc7253 wrote:

I think they renamed due to their touring with Ozzy this or next year, I'm actually hoping that the real reason is they want to continue recording as Sabbath with Ozzy, but it's a long shot.

It's like the rest of the band is sleeping with two wives.