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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:23 pm | |
| - thrasher73 wrote:
- I've already trade my copy off.Didnt care much for it.The music was great but I didnt like the vocals.
Ditto for me. |
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:28 pm | |
| I guess mc666 and I are in the minority here - but wow - I just can't seem to get enough of this album. Sure the vocals are 'deathy'. It actually reminds me of old Vengeance Rising (Human Sacrifice era) or even Ultimatum. The riffs are starkly thrash - no mistaking this. If this album had come out in the late 80s, second wave of thrash movement - this album would have been esteemed extremely highly. Actually, it's getting high praises now all across the net. For some reason the people here aren't too hip on it - but this album is destined to be an 00s thrash classic. I don't care what anyone says. |
| | | ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:48 pm | |
| Here's a postive review off of Metal-Archives: - Quote :
- Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery! - 86%
Skeletonwitch are a band that draws influences from several different corners of the metal scene but has managed to form something pretty recognizable and unique out of them. In the cauldron of the Witch one can find traces of NWOBHM, thrash, Gothenburg and black metal, and yet Skeletonwitch can't be categorized under any of those labels. Suffice to say they play a fast, raw brand of metal with emphasis on riffs and guitar melodies.
Beyond the Permafrost, their first release on a decent-size label, contains some re-recorded old songs and some new songs, basically summing up their entire career up to this point (not that they've been around a terribly long time). The songs, despite being from different eras, all fit together fine. The greatest thing about Skeletonwitch is, as always, the guitars. Not that Nate Garnette and Scott Hedrick are the greatest shredders in the world, but the guitar parts combine and work off each other in a way that I've never really heard in any other band. Chance Garnette's raspy snarl sounds great here; unlike on other Skeletonwitch releases, the lyrics are quite audible, and if a skeleton witch ever existed, its voice would probably sound like Chance's. Finally, the production is what sets Beyond the Permafrost apart from the other Skeletonwitch albums. It maintains a raw, old school sound but doesn't sound like it was recorded in someone's basement, as was the case with their first album, At One With The Shadows.
These guys also have a very clever use of melody. Their songs are melodic, no doubt about it, but they never resort to ripping off Iron Maiden in a way that many supposedly melodic extreme metal bands have done. At times they borrow a page or two from the book of Amon Amarth, and at other times they use the type of melodies you might hear in a Dissection song. Anyway, the melodies never detract from the heaviness of the songs, which is the most important thing.
If you're interested in hearing a band that puts a new edge on some established metal traditions, you would do well to check out Skeletonwitch. So lay down your soul to the Witch's black sorcery and prepare for quite a thrashing. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:09 pm | |
| That's a good review! I was just cranking this (again) today and I was just loving it. I mean, these guitar melodies are terribly infectious. Good riffage. I've not heard riffs that make me wanna tear out the air guitar like this in a long time on thrash releases. Suffice it to say, this is my pick for thrash album of the year. No doubt about it. |
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:50 pm | |
| I listened to it again today in my car at maximum volume. Still don't see it as being "thrash". I'd actually agree with the review above, "Skeletonwitch are a band that draws influences from several different corners of the metal scene...traces of NWOBHM, thrash, Gothenburg and black metal." I suppose "Gothenburg" means 'death metal', and with several areas where blast beats are incorporated, I'd agree. I don't hear a lot of "thrash riffing" overall, but some superb guitar melodies are used. The music is outstanding. Heavy but melodic. All the hooks are in the music. Excellent production as well. The guitar tones are great.
I still think the vocals really bog this down. All the vocals seem a bit low in the mix. I really don't hear any comparisons to myself or Roger Martinez. These vocals are much more 'extreme.' There are basically two vocal styles used; high, shrills black metal vox and low, gutteral death metal. There are no real vocal hooks or standout vocal melodies, unlike a release like "Tales from the Thousand Lakes" where the death growls still have memorable hooks.
Overall, the music rules. The musicianship is outstanding. I still don't agree that this is thrash metal, even though there are some thrash influences in the music. I just wish the vocals weren't of the death/black variety. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:00 am | |
| Well, I do see this as a thrash release. However, I am in agreement that there is a major NWoBHM vibe mixed with black and death metal. There is not any metalcore here at all (which the reviewer also didn't bring up). So since I love thrash, nwobhm, death and black metal - I guess that's why this album is right up my alley. Vocally speaking - I just love them. They are extreme (and yes, far more extreme than many a typical thrash singer), but that's what gives them their edge IMO. I really like thrash that has more extreme tendencies (not of the metalcore type, but more black and death). That's why I always loved Vengeance Rising and Death. Many people consider their stuff to be death metal too, but all in all they were thrash bands with much more of an extreme approach. Many people are comparing the new Ultimatum to Obituary. Frankly, I can see this comparison as well. I think that's a major complement though - as I love Obituary. But you guys are also in death territory at times. I hope you don't take offense to this cause I think you rock and I love Ultimatum. Just being honest here. But it's meant in a very positive way. |
| | | mc666 Master Sailboat
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:34 am | |
| i see it as thrash as well. blackened thrash, but still thrash. whatever the case, i love it. i don't know about comparisons to Ultimatum. i purchased Into The Pit on Saturday but it hasn't arrived yet. the only other one i have to compare it to is the Puppet album & that sounds nothing like Skeletonwitch vocally. _________________ | |
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:18 am | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- i see it as thrash as well. blackened thrash, but still thrash. whatever the case, i love it. i don't know about comparisons to Ultimatum. i purchased Into The Pit on Saturday but it hasn't arrived yet. the only other one i have to compare it to is the Puppet album & that sounds nothing like Skeletonwitch vocally.
Cool. I hope you like it. The vocals on Puppet of Destruction are different than on Into the Pit. For that matter, the vocals on Into the Pit vary a bit from song to song. Blackened thrash metal. That's a good description of Skeletonwitch. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:30 am | |
| - EvyMetal wrote:
- i agree with rex, not that great, but the artwork is bitchin'
Not exactly my style but I'll agree that is a great CD cover. Looks like it could be a work by the famed "Pushead"... is it? If not, then somebody did a nice job biting his style. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:13 pm | |
| - blackieboy wrote:
- Blackened thrash metal!
Does that come with rice or my choice of potato? |
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| | | | Shiney Scarred But Smarter
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:44 pm | |
| I just picked this up today.....I really like it.
This surprises me as I am no fan of death metal or that style of singing...usually...However it works here and I can quite dig it. _________________ "Oh man, I need TV? When I got T Rex"
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| Subject: Re: Skeletonwitch Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:55 pm | |
| I just picked up the latest issue of Terrorizer magazine. They have a small feature on Skeletonwitch and clearly label them a 'thrash band'. I agree. Anyway ... at least I'm not the only one who thinks this. Glad you like this Shiney! I think more people will start liking them as they become more known. They are still quite a new band. |
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