Guns n Roses Chinese Democracy

I haven't heard a single song from it...and I intend to keep it that way!

SAXON1500 wrote:

Does this album REALLY need 16 pages? And I wholehearted agree with this nube ^^^^^!

Half those pages are full of nothing but people who pop in just to bash the band & album. :

Why is a negative opinion automatically labeled a bash? A bash is someone calling Axl a douche who enjoys llama fellatio. (which I have heard is true)

SpectreFate wrote:

Why is a negative opinion automatically labeled a bash? A bash is someone calling Axl a douche who enjoys llama fellatio. (which I have heard is true)

"GNR is a joke" is a bash post.

SpectreFate wrote:

Why is a negative opinion automatically labeled a bash? A bash is someone calling Axl a douche who enjoys llama fellatio. (which I have heard is true)

Until you've tried llama fellatio yourself, that sir, is a bash. Having known a few llamas in my time (I was young and in college), I can say that they have a very tender touch and a velvety tongue.

SpectreFate wrote:

Why is a negative opinion automatically labeled a bash? A bash is someone calling Axl a douche who enjoys llama fellatio. (which I have heard is true)

Does he enjoy giving or receiving the llama fellatio in question?

Winamp kicks the llama's ass.

Fat Freddy wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

Why is a negative opinion automatically labeled a bash? A bash is someone calling Axl a douche who enjoys llama fellatio. (which I have heard is true)

Does he enjoy giving or receiving the llama fellatio in question?

As evidence of this picture of Duff dragging poor Steven Adler to Axl's dressing room I would say receiving:

Metal Misfit wrote:

Platinum status, baby.

Now he'll only need to repeat that about 5 more times to pay off the production costs.

detuned wrote:

Metal Misfit wrote:

Platinum status, baby.

Now he'll only need to repeat that about 5 more times to pay off the production costs.

Seeing how he's not touring and has barely done a word of press or promotion, I don't think it's too much of a concern for Axl. The record comapny I'm sure feels differently.

Wouldn't platinum be enough (or close enough) to paying off the budget? It was rumored at $14 mil, right?

So, a million copies bought (by the public, not Best Buy) and let's just say they were at $15/CD (I forget how much I bought mine for and how much they're selling for now) = $15,000,000.

You could factor in promotion costs, but that was really on Best Buy and it only had a budget of a couple hundred dollars anyway.

Metal Misfit wrote:

Wouldn't platinum be enough (or close enough) to paying off the budget? It was rumored at $14 mil, right?

So, a million copies bought (by the public, not Best Buy) and let's just say they were at $15/CD (I forget how much I bought mine for and how much they're selling for now) = $15,000,000.

You could factor in promotion costs, but that was really on Best Buy and it only had a budget of a couple hundred dollars anyway.

I don't think your math is right on that, but don't quote me on that. Something doesn't add up just right. That being said, however, in this day and age of downloads, any album that cracks the 1 million sold mark these days is still pretty impressive. I'm sure the haters will make some snarky remark (hell, I know I would ) that millions sold doesn't account for good taste in music. And they're right, to a point. Brittney sells millions too. But I guess having these exclusive deals with Best Buy and Walmart is the way to go when it comes to selling physical albums these days.

I understand the exclusive deal with Walmart. Everyone shops there except Uncle Sax. But not everyone has a Best Buy in their town or one even close to it. In the town in WV where I grew up, there isn't a Best Buy, and I grew up in the 4th largest city in the state. I think the cloest Best Buy is 70 miles away in Charleston, WV.

My friend wanted this album and he never would have got it had he not had the need to be transported to Columbus, Oh for quadruple bypass surgery. On his way home from the hospital, he stopped by Best Buy in Columbus to get it.

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Chart postions from Billboard.

SpectreFate wrote:

I understand the exclusive deal with Walmart. Everyone shops there except Uncle Sax. But not everyone has a Best Buy in their town or one even close to it. In the town in WV where I grew up, there isn't a Best Buy, and I grew up in the 4th largest city in the state. I think the cloest Best Buy is 70 miles away in Charleston, WV.

My friend wanted this album and he never would have got it had he not had the need to be transported to Columbus, Oh for quadruple bypass surgery. On his way home from the hospital, he stopped by Best Buy in Columbus to get it.

But that makes the numbers sold that much more impressive. Even when people had to go out of their way to get it, it still managed to sell well. Who knows what the numbers might have been if they signed a Walmart deal. And unlike Walkmart, Best Buy did very little in the marketing and display of Chinese Democracy. When Walmart was pimping Black Rain, you couldn't turn your cart around without hitting some AC/DC mech tie-in.

I am impressed the album managed to sell a million copies from a band (or what's left of) that has not released an album of new material since 1991, has had little to no promotion from Axl, no interviews, no videos, no tour is booked, and being sold only at Best Buy.

A million copies, and I believe those numbers only reflect the United States, does any have any idea what the world wide sales figures are?

manny wrote:

I am impressed the album managed to sell a million copies from a band (or what's left of) that has not released an album of new material since 1991, has had little to no promotion from Axl, no interviews, no videos, no tour is booked, and being sold only at Best Buy.

A million copies, and I believe those numbers only reflect the United States, does any have any idea what the world wide sales figures are?

2.6 million worldwide as of February 3, 2009

MetalRob331 wrote:

manny wrote:

I am impressed the album managed to sell a million copies from a band (or what's left of) that has not released an album of new material since 1991, has had little to no promotion from Axl, no interviews, no videos, no tour is booked, and being sold only at Best Buy.

A million copies, and I believe those numbers only reflect the United States, does any have any idea what the world wide sales figures are?

2.6 million worldwide as of February 3, 2009

Thank you, Metal Rob.

Wow that is kind of impressive

Axl still says no tour plans right now though in that Billboard interview. WTF is he thinking?

But geez, a million in sales with virtually no promotion from band/label/chain... Maybe he *doesn't* need to tour!

millions sold doesn't account for good taste in music.

SAXON1500 wrote:

millions sold doesn't account for good taste in music.

such a snarky remark.

One With the World wrote:

GN'R is a joke

I love you.

Schbopo wrote:

One With the World wrote:

GN'R is a joke

I love you.

I love you both :flower:

SAXON1500 wrote:

millions sold doesn't account for good taste in music.

True but there are some who actually dig GnR Joke or not What cracks me up is this thread IMO is in the wrong section I woudnt call Chinese Democracy a metal album or even a Hard Rock Album Id have to say Chinese Democracy is pretty experimental