Love/Hate - BLACKOUT IN THE RED ROOM

Anyone else here love this band/album as much as I do? Just dusted this one off for the first time in a while and DAMN it still kicks as much ass as it did in 1990 when it was first released. L/H kinda got lost in the shuffle among all the other sleaze bands that got signed in the wake of Guns N Roses but I feel that this is one of the best "lost gems" of the era.

I was lucky enough to see these guys live twice back in the day and they put on a heck of a good show too. But BOY did they like their weed. I left both venues with a contact high ... good times.

Yep one of my favorite albums. I picked it up as a new release in 90 and instantly loved it. Missed out sseing them with AC/DC in Cleveland as I was still a school boy, but that album still gets played to this day by me. In fact, I'm gonna listen to it now.

Good choice for a thread, FF.

spectrefate wrote:

Good choice for a thread, FF.

Thanks! Ya never know what I'm gonna dig up when I get in one of my "Now what haven't I listened to in a long time" moods.

As long as I'm back here, what did you think of the second L/H album (WASTED IN AMERICA)? Just as good as the debut IMHO (in fact, I plan to take that one off the shelf tomorrow)... things got a little 'iffy' for me with the LET'S RUMBLE album, which had a few good tracks ("Spinning Wheel" = ) but was nowhere near in the same ballpark as the first two. Then came I'M NOT HAPPY, which pretty much summed up my reaction when I first heard it.

Yeah, your views on the other L/H albums pretty much match mine, but I liked Let's Rumble quite a bit. I am so afraid to get the "Let's Eat" album. But I'm so darn curious about it. Skid isn't on it, so it can be a toss up when Jizzy is in control.

I've never heard the last two L/H albums (LET'S EAT and LIVIN' OFF LAYLA) cuz of all the bad word of mouth they've gotten over the years. I understand that Jizzy isn't even on most of LIVIN OFF LAYLA, he had a fight with Skid midway thru the recording and split, so half the songs were sung by Marq Torien of BulletBoys (!!) filling in

Skid has a Love/Hate website where you can download MP3s of just about everything they ever released, but even for free, I don't think I wanna hear Marq Torien fronting Love/Hate.

Yep,Loves me some Love/Hate.BITBR is a great album.I was thinking about them a few days ago.Time to give it a spin.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Skid has a Love/Hate website where you can download MP3s of just about everything they ever released, but even for free, I don't think I wanna hear Marq Torien fronting Love/Hate.

I forgot about Livin Off Layla.

I think I forgot that one because I too don't want to hear anyone but Jizzy singing for L/H.

I like the Bulletboys but Marq Torien is a hack. He took over the vocal spot after Mark Free left King Kobra. Of course that spawned Bulletboys with Lonnie Vencent and Mick Sweda who were with Marq in KK at that time.

........stop typing Brian

spectrefate wrote:

I like the Bulletboys but Marq Torien is a hack.

Never liked the BB's much. "Smooth Up" was an OK song but the rest of it is so bitten off of Dave-era VH that it's like listening to a poor Xerox copy

Fat Freddy wrote:

Never liked the BB's much. "Smooth Up" was an OK song but the rest of it is so bitten off of Dave-era VH that it's like listening to a poor Xerox copy

I agree, but I have a soft spot for Mick Sweda's playing because of my affection for King Kobra.

I got the other two, but not this one.

Eyesore wrote:

I got the other two, but not this one.

You NEED this one. Put it on your Lala want list if you haven't already. You'll thank me.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I got the other two, but not this one.

You NEED this one. Put it on your Lala want list if you haven't already. You'll thank me.

Yeah, it's on there. I forgot they had more than just the two I own. I have Wasted In America, Let's Rumble, and a one-track promo single.

Never a big fan of the music. It was ok I guess, but I am a fan of Jizzy Pearl's writing. Has anyone read his books? It's pretty cool, funny, dark stuff. Some of it is autobiographical (growing up in the 70's, partying, etc.), some is pure fiction, and some occasional poetry. He's like a low-rent Henry Rollins.

He just put out a new solo album, or is about to.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I am a fan of Jizzy Pearl's writing.

Yeah his Love/Hate biographical stuff is pretty funny. Like when Love/Hate started as a Duran Duran type band (with a different name and image, of course).

This is a classic, IMO....I like all their material even "I'M NOT HAPPY"

Shiney wrote:

This is a classic, IMO....I like all their material even "I'M NOT HAPPY"

You have ears of steel.

Nah, it's not that bad, I guess.

This band and this album is beyond classic, the first 3 Love/Hate albums are the best string of albums by a musical entity ever! Love/Hate along with Redd Kross, Manic Street Preachers, The Dictators and Thin Lizzy are my all time favourite bands, i cannot rate them high enough. Blackout is always the popular choice when choosing a L/H album, but Wasted In America just smokes it and practically anything else for that matter. Wasted In America is the crowning glory and last great album of 14 years of Californian Hard Rock (Van Halen's 1978 S/T effort kicked it off). Wasted In America is just one brilliantly twisted alloy of blues, punk, funk, sleaze and metal. It's in essence a thinking man's party rock with its wry social comment on American society at the time. Wasted In America and Blackout smoke Guns N' Roses Appetite For Destruction because it just doesn't care, but Love/Hate were too late on the scene to make any real impact. Those first 2 Love/Hate albums and 3 others i rank higher than Appetite in operating in that loose genre in the late 80's early 90's of street walkin' sleazy glam/blues/punk/funk/metal.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Never a big fan of the music. It was ok I guess, but I am a fan of Jizzy Pearl's writing. Has anyone read his books? It's pretty cool, funny, dark stuff. Some of it is autobiographical (growing up in the 70's, partying, etc.), some is pure fiction, and some occasional poetry. He's like a low-rent Henry Rollins.

I read an excerpt from one of his books (I believe it was his first one, "I Got More Crickets Than Friends") years ago in Metal Edge magazine, it was good stuff, but I never got around to checking out any more of his work. It looks like it'd be a fun read.

Awesome stuff!!!!

Read an interesting article on Love/Hate in a recent Classic Rock mag. Apparently Jizzy was considered to play Jim Morrison in the Doors movie, Penelope Spheeris (Decline, Wayne's World) put his name to Oliver Stone. He met Oliver Stone but obviously Val Kilmer got the gig. Also Ian Astbury was numero uno choice for the gig but turned it down due to he didn't like how Morrison was portrayed.


Here's a CNN news report of when Love/Hate hung Jizzy from the Hollywood sign, i kid you not. Check out the Budweiser cans cross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOwKav3WR6Y

rattpoison wrote:

Here's a CNN news report of when Love/Hate hung Jizzy from the Hollywood sign, i kid you not. Check out the Budweiser cans cross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOwKav3WR6Y

I remember this stunt! Not the brightest idea (I believe Jiz did some time in jail for it) but hilariously cool nonetheless.

That "Budweiser cans cross" was something of an L/H trademark. I saw them live a few times and they'd always open the set by marching out onstage, Jizzy leading the charge, holding that Bud Cross high!!

This is a great album. Some silly lyrics though. "Let me touch your cookies."

You jerks have recently opened up a whole new siphon/pit of despair for my money!! Stop it!!

Rattboy, Gojira, Frederick, Shinehead and Spectaecles - you guys are the main culprits! You'e killing my Powermetal and Thrash acquisition plans!
















(rushes off to LaLa and Ebay, weeping tears of furious joy and longing.....)

Scott: Love/Hate CDs are money well spent. You'll thank us later.