Ripper Owens wants to re-record "Jugulator" and "Demolition"

Blabbermouth sez that Tim Owens wants to re-record the Jugulator and Demolition albums, which have been out of print for quite some time.

I guess I can sympathize with his feelings about being "erased," but is there really enough demand for those albums out there to go to all that trouble? (shrugs)

blabbermouth wrote:

TIM 'RIPPER' OWENS Says His Time With JUDAS PRIEST Has Been 'Erased' From Band's Past, Vows To Re-Record Both Albums

Tim "Ripper" Owens says that he will re-record the albums he made with JUDAS PRIEST after his time with the band was "erased" from its past.

The Ohio-based singer recorded two studio albums with the British heavy metal legends — 1997's "Jugulator" and 2001's "Demolition" — before the band reunited with Rob Halford.

After a fan pointed out to Owens on Facebook earlier today that the two discs from his era of PRIEST have been out of print on vinyl for "quite a number of years now," Owens shared the post and responded: "Yep Great to see my time in JP has erased and my CDs and ME from their past!!!!! Well I haven't forgot my past and I will be working on re recording the studio CDs and releasing them myself!! Why not?"

In a 2016 interview with StrikeCanal, Owens defended himself against accusations by some JUDAS PRIEST fans of changing the band's sound to a more brutal, modern direction on "Jugulator". He explained: "Every record JUDAS PRIEST puts out is different. I mean, 'Nostradamus' sounds nothing like JUDAS PRIEST ever wrote, ever. 'Turbo' sounded nothing like JUDAS PRIEST. You know, JUDAS PRIEST changes. They wrote 'Painkiller', and 'Jugulator' was a transition; it was kind of following what was going on."


He continued: "You've gotta remember, JUDAS PRIEST always went with the times a little bit. Glenn [Tipton, guitar] started playing arpeggios. PANTERA was really big [at the time]. [On the] 'Painkiller' [tour], they toured with PANTERA; PANTERA opened for JUDAS PRIEST. 'Painkiller' was a heavy record, and this was a natural progression. The difference is I probably had a few more different layers to my voice that they could tap into — some deeper, death metal kind of undertones to do backups and some different types of voices that they might be able to try. But it was JUDAS PRIEST."

Last year, Owens told Metal Temple that he would rejoin JUDAS PRIEST if asked. "There's no doubt I would, if the timing was right," he said. "It's not gonna happen — it's never gonna happen. It'll never, ever happen; Rob's not ever gonna leave JUDAS PRIEST. They'll retire and I think that'll be it. But, yeah, I'll tell you the reason I would is because of the friendship. Financiallly, I don't know if it could be any… it's not gonna be any better than what I do now. But the friendship with those guys is really great. They are great guys and I had an absolute blast with them. That's probably the thing I miss the most — hanging out with them and the friendship."

I think it's a good idea. Don't know if it'll be popular but I'll buy it. How could the production or performances on Demolition be any worse?

And JP wouldn't pay him any more money than he makes now? O RLY?

Maybe KK Downing will re-join him for the re-recordings...

If he wants to do it, more power to him. It's not something I need or would buy though.

He could do one album with the best cuts from each, and that would be pretty badass. Demolition, as I've always said, has some killer tracks on it. That is too often overlooked, I think, because of the awful production. And Jugulator has even more great songs on it.

He should do it. Hell, I'd love to hear Priest do it with Halford on vocals. It's a shame they won't play any of those songs live.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Maybe KK Downing will re-join him for the re-recordings...

Good idea!  Scott Travis too ... why not?

Tim has a good point here about JP not giving his era of the band any mention and trying to erase it from history.

CD1: "Re-Juggled"
CD2: "Tim-olition"

Temple of Blood wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Maybe KK Downing will re-join him for the re-recordings...

Good idea!  Scott Travis too ... why not?

Tim has a good point here about JP not giving his era of the band any mention and trying to erase it from history.  

Admittedly not a huge fan of the Ripper Era, but they shouldn't try to erase the man and his contributions from the band's history. Not cool.

Temple of Blood wrote:

CD1: "Re-Juggled"
CD2: "Tim-olition"

Awesome.

Sabbath did the same w/Tony Martin.

candlemass wrote:

Sabbath did the same w/Tony Martin.

It actually pisses me off that they shun the Tony Martin years. I really love a handful of the albums he was on.

As for the Ripper-fronted Priest though, both of those albums are pretty lackluster. That being said, it still sucks that he feels he's been completely forgotten.

He could do them with his Charred Walls of the Damned band, plus special guest KK Downing.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Maybe KK Downing will re-join him for the re-recordings...

Good idea!  Scott Travis too ... why not?

Tim has a good point here about JP not giving his era of the band any mention and trying to erase it from history.  

Didn't Iced Earth try to do the same thing with his era too? Thought I read that they were going to re record his stuff and use Matt Barlow when he came back.

Far as these two albums are concerned, I might buy the demolition CD if he makes a new one, cause I don't have that one get anyways. I'm good with the Jugulator CD I own though, so unless there is some sort of both us unheard stuff, I would probably skip that one.

Instead of re-recording those, he should write new material that sounds like Jugulator. Like another Beyond Fear album. If he insists, tag a bonus CD with it with choice re-recordings.

Otherwise I don't see the point in buying it. Why would I want to own Jugulator again, just without KK and Tipton?

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Didn't Iced Earth try to do the same thing with his era too? Thought I read that they were going to re record his stuff and use Matt Barlow when he came back.

There was talk of that when Barlow came back into the band, but then he was gone again before they could do anything about it

Lately Schaffer has been talking about re-recording the first six I.E. albums (!) with the current I.E. lineup, cuz Century Media was recently bought by Sony Music and apparently Jon doesn't anticipate ever getting the rights back to those albums.

candlemass wrote:

Sabbath did the same w/Tony Martin.

I was just gonna say, Tony Martin and Blaze Bayley must be like "Welcome to the club, Tim."

He should call this 2CD set: "Never turn your back ..."

Great double meaning.

Troublezone wrote:

He could do them with his Charred Walls of the Damned band, plus special guest KK Downing.

I would stay away from that guitarist, Steve is unnecessary for this project and is probably too busy musically, Christy is probably too busy with non-musical things.

Lari wrote:

Instead of re-recording those, he should write new material that sounds like Jugulator. Like another Beyond Fear album.

That's not a bad idea, but Beyond Fear sounds nothing like "Jugulator".

Fat Freddy wrote:

I was just gonna say, Tony Martin and Blaze Bayley must be like "Welcome to the club, Tim."

Exactly.

Tony Martin ... those were the best albums out of all the ones mentioned in this thread.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Maybe KK Downing will re-join him for the re-recordings...

I re-listened to both of these back to back recently. While I can't pinpoint anything that I truly hate about them, I find them rather lifeless. If Owens were to do a tour focusing on this material I might go see it, as I imagine it would come off better in a live setting. I can't imagine a low-budget re-recording is going to do much to improve either one though.

Now that I think about it, I really should listen to the two live albums that they put out with Ripper, if only to see how the songs off Jugulator and Demolition translated in the live setting when mixed in with the classic material.

candlemass wrote:

Sabbath did the same w/Tony Martin.

Huge fan of Tony Martin's vocals.. I still believe if the band had been called Iommi he would have had better recognition as a singer.

I agree with Eyesore, rerecord the best songs off the two albums. Do they not do any of those songs live at all? At least Maiden incorporates a couple of the Blaze songs.

Fat Freddy wrote:

candlemass wrote:

Sabbath did the same w/Tony Martin.

I was just gonna say, Tony Martin and Blaze Bayley must be like "Welcome to the club, Tim."

And Brian Howe is serving drinks.

The 2 albums he was on aren't very good at all except a few songs off each. I would not buy it but I wish him luck.

I think he needs to do more Beyond Fear.

As for Tony Martin being forgotten. I don't think so. The last few years had been with Ozzy back in the band so EVERY former singer of Sabbath took a back seat. There is talk of Tony Iommi rereleasing the Tony Martin albums and recently I heard they are remixing the Forbidden album.