Tim Gaines is out of Stryper (again)

Ok gotcha

You should check out his FB post I took a screenshot of it , just wow is all i can say

Daaaaaaaaaang.

Timothy is so much better off than Robert and Oz he can't stop bitching about it.

nobody is in the right in this situation if you ask me

But there is 1 person totally full of crap. His name is Tim.

No I disagree I think they all are full of crap I Used to love them too

Robert I don't think has uttered 1 word about the situation, not sure how he is full of crap.

Oz said that Tim had an affair, which is true.

Michael said he kicked Tim out because him and his new wife wouldn't stfu. He might be full of crap.

We khow Tim is a liar. That's why he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me.

agree to disagree

Hmmm..in the past michael has publicly gotten into it with Nikki Sixx, Sebastian Bach, Taime Downe, Janice Sweet (his mother), multiple people on several forums including the Christian metal Realm...and in his book he trashed his mother, brother, former managers, producers, record companys & Tim... He also made it clear the only way he plays in Stryper is if he controls EVERYthing and everyone.. yeaaaah... Im with Tim 110% ..... I dumped everything I have that had Michael involved in it and will never ever ever spend one dime on anything he's involved with again..Looking forward to Tims projects and book however...

brokentulsa wrote:

Hmmm..in the past michael has publicly gotten into it with Nikki Sixx, Sebastian Bach, Taime Downe, Janice Sweet (his mother), multiple people on several forums including the Christian metal Realm...and in his book he trashed his mother, brother, former managers, producers, record companys & Tim... He also made it clear the only way he plays in Stryper is if he controls EVERYthing and everyone.. yeaaaah... Im with Tim 110% ..... I dumped everything I have that had Michael involved in it and will never ever ever spend one dime on anything he's involved with again..Looking forward to Tims projects and book however...

Yeah, but who has the talent? Who cares about his speaking out about guys like Nikki Sixx or Sebastian Bach... those guys are bigger jerks than he is. Michael always said he speaks his mind no matter what. I guess most Christians don't like that. But I do think he has a issue with his ego. At the end of the day, he's human with his own short comings and struggles just like everyone else.

On a side note...

Michael is still working with George Lynch. A guy that has a reputation for being stubborn and hard to work with. Not to mention their polar opposite views on religious matters which could potentially be a stumbling block for them in the lyric dept. They seem to be getting along fine and it's not like they're raking in the bucks with their project to justify working together (if they disliked each other).

He who writes all the songs controls the proceedings....NO band is a democracy.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

He who writes all the songs controls the proceedings....NO band is a democracy.

This

Also, you have to remember, some band members have no problem with one guy writing everything and them just doing their parts...it's fun, they get to travel and tour and record...they have no desire to do anything more.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

He who writes all the songs controls the proceedings....NO band is a democracy.

Reminds me of Dennis DeYoung getting booted from Styx. They said they wanted a democracy and they voted to go on without him.

mikeinfla wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

He who writes all the songs controls the proceedings....NO band is a democracy.

Reminds me of Dennis DeYoung getting booted from Styx. They said they wanted a democracy and they voted to go on without him.

Democracy meaning Tommy & JY control everything...

Michael has kept the world spinning on it's axis for however long he's been alive. Read his book and you'll see


Sad to see the situation has came to this.

Oz actually got a couple writing credits on their last album. He does have a desire to write songs he's just not as talented at is as Michael.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

He who writes all the songs controls the proceedings....NO band is a democracy.

You are correct. Just ask Dave Mustaine!

Big Rich wrote:

Oz actually got a couple writing credits on their last album. He does have a desire to write songs he's just not as talented at is as Michael.

And no doubt they were allowed into the mix because Michael approved of them. It's just the way it is....it's not necessarily good or bad.

I think the guys in Stryper are taking the high road and Tim....well just look at the bitter post on Facebook for that. If he's happy to be gone why come off like that. I'm not gonna argue about Mikes ego cause I think it's pretty obvious but he does have a lot of talent. I think Tim just needs to move on and do things he enjoys. I wish them all the best.

He was venting as he had mentioned the next day and can you blame him? I am sure it will all blow over in time. Until his book comes out that is

This fiasco is similar to the Greg Christian and Testament drama.

Must be a bass player thing...