Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:15 pm
Shocking to me they can attract someone of Tony's caliber. I'd think he could go to greener pastures.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:57 pm
Dark Horseman wrote:
Shocking to me they can attract someone of Tony's caliber. I'd think he could go to greener pastures.
TNT may be big business overseas, but in the States they one minor MTV hit, and not bad gig for Tony Harnell, he get a working visa for the States, play a few shows and make decent beer money.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:22 pm
Things just got a little more interesting. Sabo and Bolan are now saying Solinger didn't leave, he was fired...
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:56 pm
I think with Bach back in the band they'd make quite a bit of money in the beginning. I don't think their intake would remain that high, but in the beginning the demand would be pretty big, I think.
But still, the guy has to be a giant turd for them to want nothing to do with it.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:57 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Things just got a little more interesting. Sabo and Bolan are now saying Solinger didn't leave, he was fired...
Maybe it's because they're playing more of an old-school rock style now and Solinger's voice really isn't suited for it?
No idea. I thought he sounded just fine on those last 2 eps. That's what makes that other post interesting. First, Solinger announces he left. Then Sabo and Bolan say "Yup, he left, but we've got Tony Harnell so we're cool". Now today, they're saying he was fired and had Tony waiting in the wings, but give no real reason other than "We wanted to make a change", like they're a baseball team trading a rookie prospect.
Will there be another release tomorrow from Solinger saying he quit because they wanted him to sign an unreasonable contract written by Dave Mustaine? Followed by Sabo and Bolan saying he was fired for acting too much like their last singer and demanding high-fives every 30 seconds?
Things are going to get weirder and uglier before the dust settles on this story.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:00 pm
manny wrote:
Dark Horseman wrote:
Shocking to me they can attract someone of Tony's caliber. I'd think he could go to greener pastures.
TNT may be big business overseas, but in the States they one minor MTV hit, and not bad gig for Tony Harnell, he get a working visa for the States, play a few shows and make decent beer money.
Wrong. TNT has a very large following in the states, with myself being a mega-fanboy. I don't care what Harnell does - I am buying it.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:00 pm
And Harnell is from New York
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:11 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Things just got a little more interesting. Sabo and Bolan are now saying Solinger didn't leave, he was fired...
I suspected as much with the timing of the firing/hiring.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:42 pm
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And Harnell is from New York
Yes I know he is a New Yorker, and TNT only had two albums chart in the States, both in, around 100 something position on Billboard, respectable but not blockbuster
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:56 pm
manny wrote:
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And Harnell is from New York
Yes I know he is a New Yorker, and TNT only had two albums chart in the States, both in, around 100 something position on Billboard, respectable but not blockbuster
Why would he need a working visa, then? And I have not yet met a chart that was not complete bullshit. Le Tekro is, hands down, one of the top 5 melodic metal guitarists in existence. The charts will never show that.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:14 pm
I like Tony's voice but it's not easy to imagine him doing songs like "Slave to the Grind" and "Monkey Business" live.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:35 pm
glassprison wrote:
I like Tony's voice but it's not easy to imagine him doing songs like "Slave to the Grind" and "Monkey Business" live.
Actually that would be pretty cool. Hope I get the chance to do so.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:21 pm
Eyesore wrote:
stormspell wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Imagine the kind of asshat Bach must be for these guys to continuously say no. Bach would rejoin in a second, and they'd all make a lot of money, but they want NOTHING to do with it. It's amazing! I literally cannot fathom how shitty Bach must be to deal with to turn down that kind of money. Haha.
Every coin has two sides. Baz is not a saint and that's for certain, however, those two guys have been trying for far too long to prove Skidrow is bigger than its parts and Baz was not an integral part of their success, which by now is nothing more than silly clash of egos.
Those guys all made tons of cash back in the day, else a reunion would have happened long time ago. And it will probably happen one day
I don't know that they've been doing that. To me it just seems like they have more integrity than we've come to expect from musicians.
So they fired Johnny on the same day when announcing his replacement, and would not even let him bow out respectfully, but had to go on that crook'd Trunk show and tell everyone Johnny was fired... great integrity, yeah. Please tell me again what an asshat Baz is
Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:58 pm
They're all asshats LOL. Baz just makes it somewhat more obvious.
What strange timing. I just revisited the last two EPs two days ago. They really are solid and many a cut above the previous Solinger crap. I thought maybe he was finally finding his footing. Haven't heard of this TNT dude so I have zero expectations.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:59 pm
Witchfinder wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
I guess they don't like money. A reunion with Baz would make a nice chunk of change.
It would not increase their intake as much as Bas would want to do it, it would not increase their venue size, and it would create a LOT of frustration for everyone involved. Not worth it. We're not talking KISS money here.
Some money's better than no money, which is what they're making now. Of course, no money is probably worth more than putting up with Bach for any amount of time.
I frankly don't care what their reasons are, I just want to see a reunited Skid Row live. It's a shame they can't make that happen.
They do well enough for themselves that they don't need Sebastian...they tour, they record, they make enough money to make themselves happy...no need to add the frustration and friction Sebastian would bring to their lives just for a couple extra bucks.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:02 pm
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And Harnell is from New York
Harnell lives in NY...he's from San Diego.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:22 pm
cool recent interview.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:57 am
corplhicks wrote:
They're all asshats LOL. Baz just makes it somewhat more obvious.
What strange timing. I just revisited the last two EPs two days ago. They really are solid and many a cut above the previous Solinger crap. I thought maybe he was finally finding his footing. Haven't heard of this TNT dude so I have zero expectations.
You should check out the videos I posted earlier!
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:14 am
stormspell wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stormspell wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Imagine the kind of asshat Bach must be for these guys to continuously say no. Bach would rejoin in a second, and they'd all make a lot of money, but they want NOTHING to do with it. It's amazing! I literally cannot fathom how shitty Bach must be to deal with to turn down that kind of money. Haha.
Every coin has two sides. Baz is not a saint and that's for certain, however, those two guys have been trying for far too long to prove Skidrow is bigger than its parts and Baz was not an integral part of their success, which by now is nothing more than silly clash of egos.
Those guys all made tons of cash back in the day, else a reunion would have happened long time ago. And it will probably happen one day
I don't know that they've been doing that. To me it just seems like they have more integrity than we've come to expect from musicians.
So they fired Johnny on the same day when announcing his replacement, and would not even let him bow out respectfully, but had to go on that crook'd Trunk show and tell everyone Johnny was fired... great integrity, yeah. Please tell me again what an asshat Baz is
Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:16 am
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
manny wrote:
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And Harnell is from New York
Yes I know he is a New Yorker, and TNT only had two albums chart in the States, both in, around 100 something position on Billboard, respectable but not blockbuster
Why would he need a working visa, then? And I have not yet met a chart that was not complete bullshit. Le Tekro is, hands down, one of the top 5 melodic metal guitarists in existence. The charts will never show that.
I am expressing my opinion not bashing your fanboy enthusiasm for Harnell.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:30 am
Eyesore wrote:
stormspell wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
stormspell wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Imagine the kind of asshat Bach must be for these guys to continuously say no. Bach would rejoin in a second, and they'd all make a lot of money, but they want NOTHING to do with it. It's amazing! I literally cannot fathom how shitty Bach must be to deal with to turn down that kind of money. Haha.
Every coin has two sides. Baz is not a saint and that's for certain, however, those two guys have been trying for far too long to prove Skidrow is bigger than its parts and Baz was not an integral part of their success, which by now is nothing more than silly clash of egos.
Those guys all made tons of cash back in the day, else a reunion would have happened long time ago. And it will probably happen one day
I don't know that they've been doing that. To me it just seems like they have more integrity than we've come to expect from musicians.
So they fired Johnny on the same day when announcing his replacement, and would not even let him bow out respectfully, but had to go on that crook'd Trunk show and tell everyone Johnny was fired... great integrity, yeah. Please tell me again what an asshat Baz is
Yeah, me either. Solinger lives in another state. Why fly him in to fire him? Also, seems to me, he was respectfully let go, then went on FB immediately to say he "quit to pursue his solo career", which we now know is BS.
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:36 am
I never warmed up to Solinger as their vocalist, but then again never heard the EP's he did recently, but the full length albums he did with them, were underwhelming.
Tony Harnell, I have one TNT album and its on cassette. If I remember correctly that guy had an incredible range, but I cannot imagine what he will sound like singing Skid Row classics.
I keep forgetting his an American, I always sought the band TNT with being Norwegian, and just included Harnell when I think of the band
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:40 am
Now I remember why I never got into TNT - this was the first song I heard of theirs and I found it rather wimpy/irritating, so I never bothered to dig much deeper. Haha
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Subject: Re: Johnny Solinger out of Skid Row; Tony Harnell (TNT) is in Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:50 am
The first 2 albums of TNT with Harnell singing (Knights Of The New Thunder and Tell No Tales) are great. After that, they started going downhill. Intuition was pretty good and Realized Fantasies was just passable. After that, from what I've read, they headed into a more modern rock sound so on that....I'll pass.
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