Overkill - Giant Box Set Due This Fall

Dark Horseman wrote:

Wait. Immortalis was abysmal?

It's a boring groove-laden mess, with a shitty production and zero memorability.

But hey, if you actually took something from this album; or at the very least, stayed awake during the whole thing, I applaud you.

I've got Taking Over, Under the Influence and The Years of Decay, so I just need Feel the Fire to complete my Overkill collection

Whole lotta crazy talk up in this thread.

I don't have much use for an Overkill boxed set either if there is no new material.


I am pretty excited about their upcoming tour with Symphony X. It's an interesting combination, and it looks like they are alternating between the opening/headlining slots. Overkill is headlining the Chicago date, which is fine by me!

Tour dates (SYMPHONY X headline dates marked with **):

Sep. 18 - The Palladium - Worcester, MA
Sep. 19 - Upstate Concert Hall - Clifton Park, NY **
Sep. 20 - Dome Theater - Niagara Falls, NY
Sep. 22 - Agora Ballroom - Cleveland, OH
Sep. 23 - The Intersection - Grand Rapids, MI **
Sep. 24 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL
Sep. 25 - Rave - Milwaukee, WI
Sep. 26 - Mill City Nights - Minnesota, MN **
Sep. 27 - Park Theatre - Winnipeg, MB **
Sep. 29 - Mac Ewan Hall Ballroom - Calgary, AB **
Sep. 30 - Union Hall - Edmonton, AB **
Oct. 01 - Knitting Factory - Spokane, WA **
Oct. 02 - Vogue Theatre - Vancouver, BC
Oct. 03 - Showbox at the Market - Seattle, WA **
Oct. 05 - The Grand Ballroom at the Regency Center - San Francisco, CA **
Oct. 06 - The Regent Theater - Los Angeles, CA **
Oct. 07 - Marquee Theatre - Tempe, AZ
Oct. 09 - The Bomb Factory - Dallas, TX
Oct. 10 - 210 Kapones - San Antonio, TX **
Oct. 11 - Warehouse Live - Houston, TX
Oct. 13 - The Ritz - Tampa, FL
Oct. 14 - The Masquerade - Atlanta, GA **
Oct. 15 - The Filmore - Charlotte, NC **
Oct. 16 - The Filmore - Silver Spring, MD
Oct. 17 - Terminal 5 - New York City, NY


Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/overkill-and-symphony-x-to-join-forces-for-north-american-co-headlining-tour/#mXk04PxFUe1rqRiO.99

Box sets rule, but box sets of the artist's entire catalog of studio albums make no sense to me. I was listening to a comedian, I forget who, who summed it up well. The album was from like 2004 or so, so CDs were still relevant, and he said he didn't get the whole trend of releasing a band's discography in a box set. He was like, "I've never felt the need to buy a single Led Zeppelin CD. So I'll buy EVERY Led Zeppelin CD."

If you like a band enough to drop $100 or whatever on a box set, you probably have at least a good portion of their albums to begin with.

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box sets of the artist's entire catalog of studio albums make no sense to me

It's understandable when a large chunk of said artists' catalog was originally released on now-defunct labels (in Overkill's case: CMC, Sanctuary, Spitfire, and Bodog) and are pricey OOP collectibles. Atlantic isn't defunct, but they haven't kept their portion of the Kill catalog in print either.

That said, box sets are generally too rich for my blood so I own almost none of them.

I bought all of Overkill's CDs when they were new releases and I still have'em all, so there would have to be some st00pidly sweet extras included in their box to get me to pull the trigger on it.

Fat Freddy wrote:

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box sets of the artist's entire catalog of studio albums make no sense to me

It's understandable when a large chunk of said artists' catalog was originally released on now-defunct labels (in Overkill's case: CMC, Sanctuary, Spitfire, and Bodog) and are pricey OOP collectibles. Atlantic isn't defunct, but they haven't kept their portion of the Kill catalog in print either.

That I get for sure, but isn't the only one that is out of print Taking Over?

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That I get for sure, but isn't the only one that is out of print Taking Over?

Beats me. At one time pretty much all of their Atlantic stuff save Under the Influence was going for st00pid $$ but glancing at Amazon now, it looks like prices have come down on most of them, so maybe they did re-press 'em at some point.

DakotaRogers wrote:

I already own their 7 essential classic and modern releases + the abysmal "Immortalis." Doubt I'll pay $300 for the excess in the middle.

Which ones are the 7 essential releases?

Lari wrote:

DakotaRogers wrote:

I already own their 7 essential classic and modern releases + the abysmal "Immortalis." Doubt I'll pay $300 for the excess in the middle.

Which ones are the 7 essential releases?

Not to put words in his mouth, but I would assume the first 5 and the most recent 2 records.

Probably all the albums packaged in slip-sleeves (like promos) then put into a box...like those "Original Album Series" boxes.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Probably all the albums packaged in slip-sleeves (like promos) then put into a box...like those "Original Album Series" boxes.

Most of the time these days I rip the CD to my computer and then the CD sits on a shelf gathering dust, a box set would make sense to me as less space = less dust 

I'll wait for it to completely not sell at stupido prices and maybe pick it up when it starts appearing cheap on fleabay.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Probably all the albums packaged in slip-sleeves (like promos) then put into a box...like those "Original Album Series" boxes.

I hate those kinds of boxsets. What is the point. Either go with elaborate, awesome packaging and bonuses and GOOD sound quality/remastering or just do not make those boxsets at all.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I bought all of Overkill's CDs when they were new releases and I still have'em all, so there would have to be some st00pidly sweet extras included in their box to get me to pull the trigger on it.

Same here. I have all the studio albums and a live disc, so the box set would have to have some seriously over-the-top bonus material or naked boobs or something to get me interested.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

Box sets rule, but box sets of the artist's entire catalog of studio albums make no sense to me. I was listening to a comedian, I forget who, who summed it up well. The album was from like 2004 or so, so CDs were still relevant, and he said he didn't get the whole trend of releasing a band's discography in a box set. He was like, "I've never felt the need to buy a single Led Zeppelin CD. So I'll buy EVERY Led Zeppelin CD."

If you like a band enough to drop $100 or whatever on a box set, you probably have at least a good portion of their albums to begin with.

I'm always on the lookout for new bands to explore and, if a band catches my interest at ALL, I tend to want to hear EVERYTHING. This is also why I'm not terribly great at getting into jazz or classical music, because I don't have the decade necessary to listen to every composition or session out-take (respectively). Unless we're talking Mahler. He died young and had a short catalog. I can respect that.

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of complete catalog box sets simply because it lets me just go, "Ok, what's this band about." Hell, I was even tempted by that Cannibal Corpse discography set that came out a few years back. The only thing that stopped me were the bucket of reviews saying that half the discs usually arrived scratched to hell and back because they used that cheapo "cardboard with slots cut out" method for storing all of them. Still, I would have given the band a chance based on that.

Sometimes, it is a cool feeling just to sit down with a box full of music and go, "Ok, impress me," knowing that if you love it, there's much more to dig into and, even if you're not blown away, there are other discs to check out before passing judgment. Maybe I'm a masochist though.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

Lari wrote:

DakotaRogers wrote:

I already own their 7 essential classic and modern releases + the abysmal "Immortalis." Doubt I'll pay $300 for the excess in the middle.

Which ones are the 7 essential releases?

Not to put words in his mouth, but I would assume the first 5 and the most recent 2 records.

Bingo.

Taking over is being reproduced ala CDR now. There are a couple like I Hear Black that go in and out.

Bobby Gustafson is threatening (in the Blabbermouth comments ) to sue if they re-release material he wrote without paying him:


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/overkill-signs-worldwide-deal-with-nuclear-blast-new-box-set-due-in-the-fall/

Overkill is one of my favorite bands period, that being said I think I am only missing 3 to 4 albums - so I will probably keep an eye out for them instead of pulling the trigger on this. It would be cool to own as a collectors item.

glassprison wrote:

Bobby Gustafson is threatening (in the Blabbermouth comments   ) to sue if they re-release material he wrote without paying him:


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/overkill-signs-worldwide-deal-with-nuclear-blast-new-box-set-due-in-the-fall/

Yeah it really doesn't look as though that reunion will be happening any time soon! 

glassprison wrote:

Bobby Gustafson is threatening (in the Blabbermouth comments   ) to sue if they re-release material he wrote without paying him:


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/overkill-signs-worldwide-deal-with-nuclear-blast-new-box-set-due-in-the-fall/

Best response to Bobby's Blabbermouth threat thus far:

blabbermouth poster wrote:

It's really sad that Overkill couldn't have a reunion of the original band like Anthrax did. That way Bobby could kill D.D. and then Blitz would see the error of his way in siding with a f*cking bassist back in the day. I'm pretty sure D.D. can be replaced by most anyone. It still baffles me to this day. Bobby was (and is) a master shredder and incredible musician. Bring the MAN back and kick out the p*ssy. Too bad, that scenario is easier to type than reality is. If you started a poll for the fans who they want Bobby Gustafson or D.D. Verni, I would say it would be overwhelmingly Bobby G. The ones that would vote D.D. probably like circus midget gay porn and gerbils in their asses.

Fat Freddy wrote:

glassprison wrote:

Bobby Gustafson is threatening (in the Blabbermouth comments   ) to sue if they re-release material he wrote without paying him:


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/overkill-signs-worldwide-deal-with-nuclear-blast-new-box-set-due-in-the-fall/

Best response to Bobby's Blabbermouth threat thus far:

blabbermouth poster wrote:

It's really sad that Overkill couldn't have a reunion of the original band like Anthrax did. That way Bobby could kill D.D. and then Blitz would see the error of his way in siding with a f*cking bassist back in the day. I'm pretty sure D.D. can be replaced by most anyone. It still baffles me to this day. Bobby was (and is) a master shredder and incredible musician. Bring the MAN back and kick out the p*ssy. Too bad, that scenario is easier to type than reality is. If you started a poll for the fans who they want Bobby Gustafson or D.D. Verni, I would say it would be overwhelmingly Bobby G. The ones that would vote D.D. probably like circus midget gay porn and gerbils in their asses.

This is a truly wonderful quote, by someone I probably would never run in the same circles with. Then again, this quote probably comes from some school teacher in middle America...

All joking aside, I've been totally baffled how someone like D.D Verni was able to convince Blitz that he was a more integral part of the band than that of Gustafson. Even though I've always liked Overkill's albums over the years, I've always thought it to be a total misstep, regarding the firing of Gustafson. Maybe this should be a poll, who was/is more talented D.D Verni or Bobby Gustafson? Maybe I just don't appreciate the bass enough as an instrument, because obviously, we are to believe that D.D is on par with Geezer, Steve Harris, etc...  Am I missing something? I suppose I'm of the mindset that just because you turn up a certain person's instrument in the mix, doesn't make him great...

Um, DD started the band. Blitz didn't. DD has the final say.

Witchfinder wrote:

Um, DD started the band.  Blitz didn't.  DD has the final say.

Ah, bushwa. I'm sure there are a bunch of scenarios where founding members have been fired. Def Leppard was essentially formed by Rick Savage, Tony Kenning and Pete Willis and that didn't help Pete Willis in the end. Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones is another example, but it didn't save his butt either...

To my understanding the firing happened over creative differences. DD had these unorthodox visions for the band that Blitz embraced and Bobby wasn't thrilled over. One could theorize--and according to interviews with Bobby this is possible--that the songwriting spotlight and creative steering that Bobby struggled for was largely out of his hands. Dude wanted sole songwriting credit and no additional guitarists. And there's the money aspect. So it had nothing to do with talent.

Honestly, as much as I love Bobby--he's not a great guitar player but shows tons of character and spirit in his approach--reading his interviews he comes off as a sizable egomaniac, even claiming all of Overkill's albums beyond his stint received a poor reception (which isn't even half true). He's pretty bitter, but all evidence points to DD making a progressive business decision.