QUEENSRYCHE

Strummer's here in Fresno?? Haha. Yeah we'll see how that goes Geoff.

Eyesore wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Oh boy, Geoff gets to perform 'Operation: Mindcrime I' and 'II' in their entirety as a unique performance! How exciting. NOT!

Glad to hear they worked things out and hopefully the drama will stop. Looking forward to new material from QUEENSRŸCHE. Still enjoy the last album they put out. Best thing they've recorded in years.

And he didn't want to be a nostalgia act! Haha.

my thoughts too. The Geoff is really trying his best to make it sound like it was about everything but what it really was - money!

thejokeriv wrote:

"Queensrÿche Starring Geoff Tate - The Farewell Tour" dates:

July 30 - Hermosa Beach, CA - Saint Rocke
July 31 - San Juan Capistrano, CA - The Coach House
Aug. 01 - El Cajon, CA - Sycuan Casino
Aug. 02 - Las Vegas, NV - House of Blues
Aug. 03 - Agoura, CA - The Canyon Club
Aug. 07 - Fresno, CA - Strummer’s
Aug. 08 - Vacaville, CA - Theatre Deville
Aug. 09 - Morgan Hill, CA - Downtown Amphitheater
Aug. 12 - Nashville, TN - Music Marathon Works
Aug. 13 - Raleigh, NC - Lincoln Theatre
Aug. 14 - Charlotte, NC - The Chop Shop
Aug. 15 - Wilmington, NC - Ziggy’s By The Sea
Aug. 16 - Winston-Salem, NC - Ziggy’s
Aug. 17 - Atlanta, GA - Center Stage
Aug. 19 - Dallas, TX - Trees
Aug. 20 - San Antonio, TX - Aztec Theatre
Aug. 22 - Tucson, AX - Rialto Theatre
Aug. 23 - Scottsdale, AZ - Talking Stick Resort
Aug. 24 - Albuquerque, NM - Sunshine Theater
Aug. 26 - Salt Lake City, UT - The Depot
Aug. 28 - Wichita, KS - The Cotillion
Aug. 30 - Bolingbrook, IL - Tailgaters


Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-announces-queensryche-starring-geoff-tate-the-farewell-tour/#q0utsSHY3vRKeJx5.99

Looks like he's gonna play 5 miles from my house and I still have no interest in seeing him. The "other" Queensryche on the other hand I plan on seeing for sure. Such a shame I really loved the Geoff fronted Queensryche oh so long ago

I wouldn't seeing Geoff, too bad there's no shows anywhere near where I live.

4 dates in NC...and I don't care. LOL!

I saw him on Empire, Promised Land and Q2K and he sounded great every time...that's all I need.

"The Geoff" lost... good for the other guys!

Queensryche with Geoff Tate live where excellent live the three times I saw them, but I have no interest in seeing Geoff Tate and his scab version of the band.

Wouldn't really say Geoff lost, he was willing to settle so clearly he was happy with the terms.

Haha Toddryche posted the "Vindication" track on Facebook today. Nice.

Vexer6 wrote:

Wouldn't really say Geoff lost, he was willing to settle so clearly he was happy with the terms.

Well he was fighting for it before, but he finally realized his version just isn't the real deal.

thejokeriv wrote:

"Queensrÿche Starring Geoff Tate - The Farewell Tour" dates:

July 30 - Hermosa Beach, CA - Saint Rocke
July 31 - San Juan Capistrano, CA - The Coach House
Aug. 01 - El Cajon, CA - Sycuan Casino
Aug. 02 - Las Vegas, NV - House of Blues
Aug. 03 - Agoura, CA - The Canyon Club
Aug. 07 - Fresno, CA - Strummer’s
Aug. 08 - Vacaville, CA - Theatre Deville
Aug. 09 - Morgan Hill, CA - Downtown Amphitheater
Aug. 12 - Nashville, TN - Music Marathon Works
Aug. 13 - Raleigh, NC - Lincoln Theatre
Aug. 14 - Charlotte, NC - The Chop Shop
Aug. 15 - Wilmington, NC - Ziggy’s By The Sea
Aug. 16 - Winston-Salem, NC - Ziggy’s
Aug. 17 - Atlanta, GA - Center Stage
Aug. 19 - Dallas, TX - Trees
Aug. 20 - San Antonio, TX - Aztec Theatre
Aug. 22 - Tucson, AX - Rialto Theatre
Aug. 23 - Scottsdale, AZ - Talking Stick Resort
Aug. 24 - Albuquerque, NM - Sunshine Theater
Aug. 26 - Salt Lake City, UT - The Depot
Aug. 28 - Wichita, KS - The Cotillion
Aug. 30 - Bolingbrook, IL - Tailgaters


Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff-tate-announces-queensryche-starring-geoff-tate-the-farewell-tour/#q0utsSHY3vRKeJx5.99

None around me. Not that I'd go anyhow.

Ultimately, I'd love to see Tate live, but I want to see a Tate who cares about the music he's playing and the sound of his voice.

The Tate we're left with hasn't taken care of his voice, from what I can hear anyway, since about 2005 and isn't exactly prodding his backing musicians to take the job seriously. Maybe he's been trolling this whole time the court case was looming and he'll get serious now, but I kind of suspect that we've unfortunately been watching someone come a bit unglued in the public eye.

I can only guess at the cause, but I'd like to hope he can pull it out of the bag and go back to being a powerhouse vocalist. I'd like the story to have a happy ending here, personally.

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

he said that but I am not sure I believe it. He is going to end up covering his old bands stuff to make a living.

Tate's last show as "Queensryche" is near me. I'd probably go if it were any other day, but as it is I'll be flying to Moscow the next day.

Anyways, Tate retains the "sole right" to perform Operation Mindcrime I & II in their entirety: I wonder if he'll actually do that, and if fans will actually stay through the soporific second half of the show. I somehow did that back when they were touring Mindcrime II. Never again!

glassprison wrote:

Tate's last show as "Queensryche" is near me. I'd probably go if it were any other day, but as it is I'll be flying to Moscow the next day.

Anyways, Tate retains the "sole right" to perform Operation Mindcrime I & II in their entirety: I wonder if he'll actually do that, and if fans will actually stay through the soporific second half of the show. I somehow did that back when they were touring Mindcrime II. Never again!

I thought it worked well on the tour - really operetic and just a little geeky. Just like everything good in life.

Though I don't think it was even close to being "the entirety" of Mindcrime II. It was more like the entire original Mindcrime album, and then 4 tracks off of Mindcrime II.

exact33 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

he said that but I am not sure I believe it. He is going to end up covering his old bands stuff to make a living.

He'll always play Ryche tunes. And why not? I know I take issue with him claiming to have written those songs, but he certainly earned the right to perform them whenever he wants to.

I would really like to see him hook up with some great musicians who write great songs and put out a killer album. As Shawn said, his lower register is still good. At times shaky a bit in a live setting, but in a controlled studio setting he'd not have those issues (unless they rushed it all, like they did on Frequency Unknown). He doesn't need to belt out epic metal wails, you know.

But he really needs quality songwriters. Musicians are a dime a dozen; great songwriters are not, and he needs them.

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Though I don't think it was even close to being "the entirety" of Mindcrime II. It was more like the entire original Mindcrime album, and then 4 tracks off of Mindcrime II.

I was talking about the tour Queensryche did for the album; at that time they definitely played the entire albums with an intermission in between sets. At that time I liked a few songs off Mindcrime II, but having it all performed theatrically was a little overkill: that album really drags on for me once it gets past "The Hands."

Eyesore wrote:

exact33 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

he said that but I am not sure I believe it. He is going to end up covering his old bands stuff to make a living.

He'll always play Ryche tunes. And why not? I know I take issue with him claiming to have written those songs, but he certainly earned the right to perform them whenever he wants to.

I would really like to see him hook up with some great musicians who write great songs and put out a killer album. As Shawn said, his lower register is still good. At times shaky a bit in a live setting, but in a controlled studio setting he'd not have those issues (unless they rushed it all, like they did on Frequency Unknown). He doesn't need to belt out epic metal wails, you know.

But he really needs quality songwriters. Musicians are a dime a dozen; great songwriters are not, and he needs them.

I just find it ironic that this was originally about how the band was stifling his creativity and he had no desire to play the old material but now he wants to.

exact33 wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

exact33 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

he said that but I am not sure I believe it. He is going to end up covering his old bands stuff to make a living.

He'll always play Ryche tunes. And why not? I know I take issue with him claiming to have written those songs, but he certainly earned the right to perform them whenever he wants to.

I would really like to see him hook up with some great musicians who write great songs and put out a killer album. As Shawn said, his lower register is still good. At times shaky a bit in a live setting, but in a controlled studio setting he'd not have those issues (unless they rushed it all, like they did on Frequency Unknown). He doesn't need to belt out epic metal wails, you know.

But he really needs quality songwriters. Musicians are a dime a dozen; great songwriters are not, and he needs them.

I just find it ironic that this was originally about how the band was stifling his creativity and he had no desire to play the old material but now he wants to.

Oh, the irony is delicious for sure.

actually I always get the feeling "Mindcrime" is about the only thing he's really attached to, but he is attached to it.

Ok, now the great oversight Mr. Tate has made in all of this is dropping the stylistic explorations of the first solo album. I know a lot of people hated on that thing HARD, but it's a consistently interesting listen and a really bold set of experiments.

Kings & Thieves, on the other hand, sounds like a crappy prog metal outfit with enough money to blow on production to make a very clear expression of some really underwhelming songs.

In all of this, it kind of boils down to how nice it would be if he actually followed through with what he claims to want to do, because there's every indication that he could do it well... As opposed to Queensryche Lite, the same reduction in quality and calories!

Eyesore wrote:

exact33 wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

exact33 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Tate, honestly, needs a reinvention. He's too old to sing old Ryche the way it needs to be sung, but when he stays in his lower range he still sounds good and he can still create a vibe given the right material. I think he needs to move into the style of his first solo album...he'd sound great in a Peter Gabriel or OSI or Katatonia type of context.

Which is probably where he'd rather be anyhow. I'm sure he feels trapped into playing the same hits over and over again.

he said that but I am not sure I believe it. He is going to end up covering his old bands stuff to make a living.

He'll always play Ryche tunes. And why not? I know I take issue with him claiming to have written those songs, but he certainly earned the right to perform them whenever he wants to.

I would really like to see him hook up with some great musicians who write great songs and put out a killer album. As Shawn said, his lower register is still good. At times shaky a bit in a live setting, but in a controlled studio setting he'd not have those issues (unless they rushed it all, like they did on Frequency Unknown). He doesn't need to belt out epic metal wails, you know.

But he really needs quality songwriters. Musicians are a dime a dozen; great songwriters are not, and he needs them.

I just find it ironic that this was originally about how the band was stifling his creativity and he had no desire to play the old material but now he wants to.

Oh, the irony is delicious for sure.

1. He's more than earned the right, but he doesn't have the ability.

2. "Playing old material" is what both he AND Ryche are doing, only difference is Ryche is playing songs Tate can't sing anymore..."Warning", "Queen...", etc. GT has always played "Best I Can" and "I Don't Believe In Love" (Mindcrime in general)...he just rarely went all the way back, and when he did it was "The Lady Wore Black" and "Take Hold The Flame" (ie, stuff he could sing). He always played older material...it was just the same ones over and over.

Full press release from Queensryche:

FULL PRESS RELEASE: A Reinvigorated Queensrÿche Starts the Writing Process for Their New Album, Tentatively Due Early Summer 2015 via Century Media Records:

With the Queensrÿche canvas wiped completely clean and the band’s easel the strongest and most stable it’s been in years, Eddie Jackson, Todd LaTorre, Parker Lundgren, Scott Rockenfield and Michael Wilton forge ahead to create yet another QR masterpiece. The band has already begun writing new material for the follow up to their critically acclaimed self-titled 2013 Century Media Records release, Queensrÿche. The new album is tentatively scheduled for release in early summer 2015.
"The Queensrÿche internal dynamic has certainly changed in terms of musicianship. It’s more of a cohesive team and the chemistry we have now is making what we can do creatively limitless. For Queensrÿche, it was always about being able to write together as a band. We didn’t have that for a long time but now that it’s back, we feel extremely liberated,” states founding guitarist Michael Wilton. "We’ve already begun the writing process for the next album and have a few songs demoed that we feel really good about. We’re taking the songs in the classic Queensrÿche direction but maybe a little more progressive and heavier at times. The thing is, you never know what you really have until it’s complete. We can’t wait for the final outcome. Writing with such a dynamic group of individuals has been nothing short of amazing."

Queensrÿche recently reached a settlement in their dispute over the ownership of the Queensrÿche name and brand. Century Media is pleased to announce that Eddie Jackson, Scott Rockenfield and Michael Wilton have successfully agreed to purchase Geoff Tate’s portion of the Queensrÿche name. The band will buy out their former lead singer’s share of the Queensrÿche corporation while allowing him the ability to be the only one to perform Operation: Mindcrime and Operation: Mindcrime II in their entirety. He will no longer have use of the TriRyche logo or any other album images aside from the Mindcrime releases. He can only refer to himself as the “Original Lead Singer of Queensrÿche or “Formerly of Queensrÿche" for a period of two years and that text must be at least 50% smaller than his name in all materials. After this two year period passes, he can only refer to himself as Geoff Tate with no mention of Queensrÿche at all. Geoff Tate will be able to finish any confirmed dates billed for his Queensrÿche lineup scheduled to terminate on August 31st, 2014. As of September 1st, there will be only one Queensrÿche entity and that will consist of Eddie Jackson, Todd LaTorre, Parker Lundgren, Scott Rockenfield and Michael Wilton. This lineup will continue to perform selections from their entire musical catalog including songs from Operation: Mindcrime. The band will be able to use all TriRyche logos and previous album artwork for any purposes as needed by the corporation.

Queensrÿche is:
Todd La Torre - Vocals
Michael Wilton - Guitars
Parker Lundgren - Guitars
Eddie Jackson - Bass
Scott Rockenfield - Drums