The offical Kiss thread

Like Freddy I hate the fact that they dress Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer in Peter Criss and Ace Frehley's make up, I feel they should have their own identities like Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent did.

That being said as musicians, Thayer and Singer are top notch and the performances I have seen with them as members have been flawless. I am looking forward to say what they sound like on material they originate.

As far as the Aerosmith/KISS co-headlining tour from a few years ago, I don't know what show iamarocker saw, but the show I saw was excellent and was another great line up, two classic American metal bands in one night.

tohostudios wrote:

Psycho Circus was better than Hot In The Shade in my book.

Yea, but that's kinda like saying having your hair set on fire is better than having your nuts slammed in a car door.

But seriously, PC had four or five good songs and a lot of filler. HITS was all filler.

Hot in the Shade is the worst KISS album in their discography IMO. That is saying something since I am one of the few KISS fans to admit liking Dynasty and Unmasked, but Hot in the Shade I felt were KISS songs by numbers. This band usually puts a lot of craft and care into their albums but this album just feels like a random selections thrown together. I have to agree with Freddy, a filler album.

[quote="manny"]Like Freddy I hate the fact that they dress Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer in Peter Criss and Ace Frehley's make up, I feel they should have their own identities like Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent did.quote]

I couldn't agree more. Ace and Peter are no longer in the band, so their identities should be retired. The same should be for Gene and Paul when they retire. Each member in makeup should have their own identity. I get the whole keeping Kiss timeless and eternal thing, but the character of the band should be protected. I like Kiss, but I really don't like Tommy and Eric dressing up as Ace and Peter. Not cool.

manny wrote:

Like Freddy I hate the fact that they dress Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer in Peter Criss and Ace Frehley's make up, I feel they should have their own identities like Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent did.

That being said as musicians, Thayer and Singer are top notch and the performances I have seen with them as members have been flawless. I am looking forward to say what they sound like on material they originate.

As far as the Aerosmith/KISS co-headlining tour from a few years ago, I don't know what show iamarocker saw, but the show I saw was excellent and was another great line up, two classic American metal bands in one night.

I saw the Aerosmith/KISS co-headline tour as well and both bands were great! I completely enjoyed the show. I'd say Kiss were a bit more energetic, but that was because Aerosmith were doing a lot their blues set.

Here's an update on Space Ace:

Original KISS guitarist's Ace Frehley's official web site, AceFrehley.com, will launch on December 15th, 2008 at noon EST. You can currently visit the site — which will contain music, videos and news, as well as art and graphics from Ace himself — to sign up for a mailing list which will give you access to "exclusive information from Ace Frehley."

In an early 2008 interview with Billboard, Frehley stated about his forthcoming solo album, "Basically, I'm trying to get back into the mindset I was in when I did my first solo record [1978's 'Ace Frehley']. That record seemed to have all the elements everybody liked — a real cool instrumental, a hit single, some real heavy rockers, a nice variety of different genres of music."

Among his favorite new tracks are "A Little Below the Angels", hard-rocking "Pain in the Neck" and an instrumental called "Fractured Quantum", which is a follow-up to his previous instrumentals "Fractured Mirror" and "Fractured Too". Another favorite is "groove song" titled "Genghis Khan", which he likens in tone to Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir."

Frehley told MyrtleBeachOnline.com that he's shooting for 12 tracks on his next album, his first in 18 years. Studio work has spanned several months, and some of the songs go back 12 years.

Frehley recently spent time on the road fronting a band that featured second guitarist Derek Hawkins, drummer Scot Coogan (ex-Brides Of Destruction) and bassist Anthony Esposito (ex-Lynch Mob).

NEW YORK (Billboard) – Kiss has reversed course and decided to hit the studio next year to record its first new album since 1998's "Psycho Circus."

"It's going to be very much a vintage, classic, '70s KISS album without much regard to what's happened since then; it's back to the roots," said singer/guitarist Paul Stanley, who will produce the album.

He told askmen.com in a recent interview that the band planned to hit the studio shortly.

In recent years, bassist Gene Simmons has been vocal about his lack of enthusiasm about making a new album, which he attributes to the state of the business.

"The record industry is in such a mess," he told Billboard last year. "There is nothing in me that wants to go in there and do new music. How are you going to deliver it? How are you going to get paid for it if people can just get it for free?"

It's unknown how Kiss will distribute the album, which will feature original members Stanley and Simmons alongside guitarist Tommy Thayer and drummer Eric Singer.

"Psycho Circus," a Mercury Records release nominally featuring original members Peter Criss on drums and Ace Frehley on guitar, debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200, but quickly slid down the chart.

Following its 35th anniversary tour, which primarily played Europe this summer, Kiss is expected to hit North America at some point in 2009.

have you heard ''new'' KiSSology Japan CD
Jigoku Retsunden ?



i am listening it right know. and must sayin' it sux realy hard. whys that ?
is it necessary to rerecord old good material with new members ?
TT on guitar here completely sux ! Ace is Ace and he's guitar God.
TT's style is far away from Ace, TT's style is dirty, slow etc.
Gene's Paul's voices are bad, means old from years. doesn't fit in. not very bad but ... chronicaly know the old days voice.

Ace Frehley's official web site is up and running:

http://www.acefrehley.com/home/

I signed up on AceFrehley.com.

[quote="journeyman"]

manny wrote:

Like Freddy I hate the fact that they dress Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer in Peter Criss and Ace Frehley's make up, I feel they should have their own identities like Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent did.quote]

I couldn't agree more. Ace and Peter are no longer in the band, so their identities should be retired. The same should be for Gene and Paul when they retire. Each member in makeup should have their own identity. I get the whole keeping Kiss timeless and eternal thing, but the character of the band should be protected. I like Kiss, but I really don't like Tommy and Eric dressing up as Ace and Peter. Not cool.

I absolutely agree with the above statement. Imho, it takes a little something away from the character if they put anybody in a former members makeup. Peace.

This just popped up on That Metak Show, funny.

Random Kiss thought:

What if Eddie Van Halen left Van Halen and joined Kiss in '82?

I read Eddie was tempted to, but Gene convinced him to stay with Van Halen.

xyz wrote:

Random Kiss thought:

What if Eddie Van Halen left Van Halen and joined Kiss in '82?

I read Eddie was tempted to, but Gene convinced him to stay with Van Halen.

Eddie would have been in the band for even a shorter time than Mark St. John. When Eddie is in a band, its Eddie's band. Gene and Paul control KISS. Someone would have probably got stabbed.

spectrefate wrote:

xyz wrote:

Random Kiss thought:

What if Eddie Van Halen left Van Halen and joined Kiss in '82?

I read Eddie was tempted to, but Gene convinced him to stay with Van Halen.

Eddie would have been in the band for even a shorter time than Mark St. John. When Eddie is in a band, its Eddie's band. Gene and Paul control KISS. Someone would have probably got stabbed.

yea that's right. same as VV. EdVH is great player but didn't fit in KiSS. anyway, everybody knew who was he. so it ment they couldn't invite him to be member. they needed someone who was unknown as Eric Carr. that's the reason.
other side is ... imagine what if EdVH, really joins KiSS ... man o man. what/which styles had Animalize album ... dude ... this is deep.

Van Halen isn't a closed shop as far creativity goes unlike KI$$, where it was mostly down to Paul and Gene.

In Van Halen it seems like both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had alot of say in the direction the music was taking, they were not just hired guns.

manny wrote:

In Van Halen it seems like both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had alot of say in the direction the music was taking, they were not just hired guns.

but the doors didn't open very much either, van halen was van halen's band and everybody knew it.

sam wrote:

manny wrote:

In Van Halen it seems like both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had alot of say in the direction the music was taking, they were not just hired guns.

but the doors didn't open very much either, van halen was van halen's band and everybody knew it.

I am not sure about that listen to how much the music changed when it went from David Lee Roth to Sammy Hagar, it is clear that both of these vocalist had a hand in the song writing process.

That being said the name of the band is Van Halen.

manny wrote:

sam wrote:

manny wrote:

In Van Halen it seems like both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar had alot of say in the direction the music was taking, they were not just hired guns.

but the doors didn't open very much either, van halen was van halen's band and everybody knew it.

I am not sure about that listen to how much the music changed when it went from David Lee Roth to Sammy Hagar, it is clear that both of these vocalist had a hand in the song writing process.

That being said the name of the band is Van Halen.

I read that the reason david lee roth left was because of the change that Eddie wanted, so when sammy arrived the music was already changing and he just became part of that change.

Some KISS news:


Gene Simmons’ sets a release date for his ‘Alter Ego’ box set.
Kiss bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons’ long-promised box set of previously unreleased solo material is, according to Gene, set to see the light of day in 2009.
The news comes after Gene responded to a fan letter on his website. Gene writes, “I’ve always written ‘outside’ stuff, but Kiss is Kiss. And that means the outside stuff winds up on solo albums, or I keep it in the drawer. This year, I plan on releasing ‘Alter Ego’, a box set of unreleased songs…about 150 of ‘em. You’ll hear more ‘outside’ stuff. ”
The album has had several different working titles over the years, including “Monster” and “100″, but is currently settled as ‘Alter Ego’ and is due for release later this year.

Would love to check it out, but 150 songs? Wow. That's gonna be costly coming from Gene.

I coulda sworn this was posted here earlier, but I can't seem to find it. It was on Blabbermouth a few days back. Anyway, the rumored new KISS album is indeed a "go" and recording apparently commenced this week:

KISS To Enter Studio Next Week - Feb. 26, 2009

KISS guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley was a guest on
the "Happy Hour" show this afternoon (Thursday, February 26) on the
Fox Business network. During the segment, Stanley confirmed to that he, Gene
Simmons and the rest of KISS will enter the studio next week to grind out a new
record for release this fall. "It's a KISS album in the most true and
classic sense — we're recording it in analog, not digital, and writing it
ourselves," Stanley recently said.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I coulda sworn this was posted here earlier, but I can't seem to find it. It was on Blabbermouth a few days back. Anyway, the rumored new KISS album is indeed a "go" and recording apparently commenced this week:

KISS To Enter Studio Next Week - Feb. 26, 2009

KISS guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley was a guest on
the "Happy Hour" show this afternoon (Thursday, February 26) on the
Fox Business network. During the segment, Stanley confirmed to that he, Gene
Simmons and the rest of KISS will enter the studio next week to grind out a new
record for release this fall. "It's a KISS album in the most true and
classic sense — we're recording it in analog, not digital, and writing it
ourselves," Stanley recently said.

Does anyone think this will be a group effort? Will Tommy or Eric get their own songs to sing, like Ace and Peter did? Or is it going to be The Gene & Paul Show with Bob Kulick on (uncredited) guitar? I'd be curious to hear some new material from them, even if their last attempt left me unimpressed, save for a song or 2.

It will be the Gene and Paul show, with Tommy and Eric on guitar/drums

I am looking forward to disc, but I do wish they would give Bob Ezrin a call instead of having Paul Stanley produce the disc.

I would love to hear the current line up do a cd of cover tunes