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Lurideath Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 3908 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:04 pm | |
| Weak isn't even the right word. Those songs are absolutely terrible. This band lost it long ago. | |
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Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
Number of posts : 6039 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:24 pm | |
| Not too bad, more in the line of Erasing to my ears. | |
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mc666 Master Sailboat
Number of posts : 9301 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:05 pm | |
| these songs sound like sh*t _________________ | |
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GrandNational Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 3830 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:54 pm | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- these songs sound like sh*t
Ya, it sounds like Steve is going through the motions on these songs with no real musical direction. That's a shame, the music just sounds lifeless. | |
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Troublezone Road Warrior
Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:41 pm | |
| Sounds terrible!
His voice is weak. The production is bad. And the music is goofy... | |
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Troublezone Road Warrior
Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:48 pm | |
| Just do one last album with the classic '92 lineup and then retire the band.
But let Andrew from Paramaecium handle the vocals. | |
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DallasBlack Zooey Addict
Number of posts : 17074 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:12 pm | |
| I find myself agreeing on this. While not spectacular albums, I liked Erasing The Goblin and Evil Addiction Destroying Machine. However, with these two songs, while I like the guitar work, the vocals sound tired and the lyrics sound like they weren't even a part of the music (like the vocal tracks were put together with the wrong music). I like Steve and his want to share his faith, but if your music falls flat, the message doesn't go far. | |
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Troublezone Road Warrior
Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:19 pm | |
| - Quote :
- I like Steve and his want to share his faith, but if your music falls flat, the message doesn't go far.
That's true. He needs to make good music if he wants anyone to look into his message. Before I heard The Crucified, I thought the extent of Christian metal was Stryper. Believe me, it made a big difference! The music kicked ass and made me take notice. | |
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adrian Metal master
Number of posts : 994 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| I like some of the vocals and riffs here, but as a whole it just doesn't work in my opinion. Hope the rest of the songs are better | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:22 pm | |
| I can't judge stuff like production on YouTube. I'm gonna wait to hear the CD.
In general, I like Morty, so I have no doubt I will enjoy this release. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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jerseyultifan+ Metal master
Number of posts : 626 Age : 60
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:28 pm | |
| Hi everyone,this Sherri~Mortification's manager.Is this an exciting day or what?
Well, I have some more great news for you! Any new member joining the Infiltration Squad for the next three months will receive "Scribe of Pentateuch" FREE!! Existing members can purchase the CD at a reduced rate!!! pls check www.roweproductions.com for details!!! Thanks everyone for all your great comments and Jesus metal blessings!
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Grimmo Metal graduate
Number of posts : 413 Age : 55
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:41 pm | |
| - jerseyultifan+ wrote:
- reposted from the Infiltration Squad facebook page."3 pieces of Great News TODAY! 1- Anti Demon received their Recording $'s from me in their Brazilian Bank Account!! Welcome once again Anti Demon to Rowe Productions! 2- Scribe Of The Pentateuch is Finished in Production & Layout & is off to The Pressing Place on Monday! It will be available for Purchase April 1st!!! Life Achievement Program Legends will receive their Signed Copies 1st with a Sign...ed Copy of Wonrowe Vision Mission Invincible! 3- The Australian Cricket Team White Washed The Summer of Cricket here. First smashing both New Zealand & India in The 2 Test Series & then narrowly won by just 15 runs in the Tri Series 50/50 Games against India & Sri Lanka. India was knockout in the rounds & so Australia & Sri Lanka played the 3 finals with Australia narrowly winning Final 1 & 3 with Sri Lanka easily winning Final #2. We are The Champions My Friends & We'll Keep on Fighting Till THE END!! Blessings to All & Much Praise To God for His work in & through Anti Demon & Mortification!!! Steve.".
The Ausralia vs New Zealand Test Series was actually drawn, as Australia won the first game and New Zealand won the second. Yes, I must check out the new Morty album. I still enjoy their early stuff the most. Anti Demon rocks for sure! | |
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shamgar75 Metal master
Number of posts : 683 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:14 pm | |
| - jerseyultifan+ wrote:
- Hi everyone,this Sherri~Mortification's manager.Is this an exciting day or what?
Well, I have some more great news for you! Any new member joining the Infiltration Squad for the next three months will receive "Scribe of Pentateuch" FREE!! Existing members can purchase the CD at a reduced rate!!! pls check www.roweproductions.com for details!!! Thanks everyone for all your great comments and Jesus metal blessings!
Can you join now? Went to the site, clicked on the How to join the infiltration squad link but nothing came up. | |
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jerseyultifan+ Metal master
Number of posts : 626 Age : 60
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:29 pm | |
| this is beginning April 1.should have said that! so I would check back..dont give up.right now as i type this;it is 1pm saturday March 31 in Austraila..thanks for your support! it will be up when you see steve's update change from march til april!! | |
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Infinite Metal student
Number of posts : 169 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:52 pm | |
| Well, those tunes sound pretty much like I expected them to. Pass.
He actually used the "Jaws" movie riff in Jaws of Life. That's some goofy stuff right there. | |
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EmoElmo Metal master
Number of posts : 626 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:11 pm | |
| Demo or Not, those songs were downright mediocre, sounded like some typical teen death metal band with zero drive for writing good tunes... not even Andy Sneap or Scott Burns could save it imo | |
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GrandNational Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 3830 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:16 am | |
| - Troublezone wrote:
- Just do one last album with the classic '92 lineup and then retire the band.
But let Andrew from Paramaecium handle the vocals. I remember about a decade or so ago Steve was answering questions fans had sent in, and one of them asked if he'd consider using a different vocalist/front-man on the next album and Steve's response was that he'd make sure to get Madonna in the band to handle the vocal duties. I gotta give it to him for his sense of humor. I've listened to each track about 5 times and I still stand by my initial impression. But don't tell that to the fanboys commenting on the YouTube page writing "WOW! The vocals are incredible!!" "The vocals in this album are amazing !" "This is awesome! Love this!" Different strokes for different folks, but as Scott said, gotta wait to hear the CD in full on my good speakers at home. | |
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EmoElmo Metal master
Number of posts : 626 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:32 am | |
| Can't wait to listen to the entire album!!!!!depresseddude12 Yeah, like he actually meant it | |
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exact33 The King
Number of posts : 23281 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:25 am | |
| - GrandNational wrote:
- Troublezone wrote:
- Just do one last album with the classic '92 lineup and then retire the band.
But let Andrew from Paramaecium handle the vocals.
I remember about a decade or so ago Steve was answering questions fans had sent in, and one of them asked if he'd consider using a different vocalist/front-man on the next album and Steve's response was that he'd make sure to get Madonna in the band to handle the vocal duties. I gotta give it to him for his sense of humor.
I've listened to each track about 5 times and I still stand by my initial impression. But don't tell that to the fanboys commenting on the YouTube page writing "WOW! The vocals are incredible!!" "The vocals in this album are amazing !" "This is awesome! Love this!"
Different strokes for different folks, but as Scott said, gotta wait to hear the CD in full on my good speakers at home. me too but i dont think it will help. I really didnt find any of it interesting. _________________ | |
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Troublezone Road Warrior
Number of posts : 17180 Age : 48
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:40 am | |
| - exact33 wrote:
- GrandNational wrote:
- Troublezone wrote:
- Just do one last album with the classic '92 lineup and then retire the band.
But let Andrew from Paramaecium handle the vocals.
I remember about a decade or so ago Steve was answering questions fans had sent in, and one of them asked if he'd consider using a different vocalist/front-man on the next album and Steve's response was that he'd make sure to get Madonna in the band to handle the vocal duties. I gotta give it to him for his sense of humor.
I've listened to each track about 5 times and I still stand by my initial impression. But don't tell that to the fanboys commenting on the YouTube page writing "WOW! The vocals are incredible!!" "The vocals in this album are amazing !" "This is awesome! Love this!"
Different strokes for different folks, but as Scott said, gotta wait to hear the CD in full on my good speakers at home. me too but i dont think it will help. I really didnt find any of it interesting. I'll give the full album a listen. But based on those two songs, I don't expect much. I really wanted Steve to pull off a good old school album... | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:46 pm | |
| A review, well, sort of... - Airola wrote:
- My first reaction to the songs wasn't really good.
I'm just going to be honest here. I was disappointed with them. I don't quite know what I was expecting but I ended up being disappointed.
I've now listened to both of these songs maybe about ten times. That's a lot of trying to find the songs enjoyable. I don't know if I would've done that if the band wasn't Mortification.
So, here are my thoughts of the songs:
The Jaws of Life The opening is pretty good. It is heavy and I like the idea of having this main riff pounding and lead guitar doing that thing. It has this sense of apocalyptic doom to it. I really like it. It somewhat falls apart when the singing starts. The problem isn't necessarily in the singing itself, but I think at that point the drums start to sound like a drum machine, as someone earlier mentioned. There isn't any real punch anymore to the song. During the chorus the song starts to feel like it was a demo. The thrashy part is all over the place, but I do love then end of it where Lincoln makes the guitar squeal! Now that I've listened to it for about ten times, I've grown to like some things in this song and don't mind that much about the drum sounds anymore. I can take it for what it is. I guess the biggest problem with the song is that it has three different parts that don't work with each other that well.
Anyways, I do like the about 20 second part that comes twice in the song. The part with the heavy main riff, the apocalyptic lead guitar and drums still giving that punch. And I like it when Lincoln makes the quitar squeal.
The rest of the song is a miss for me, although I've grown to like it a bit more.
Scribe of the Pentateuch The first few seconds are great. I love the heavy tone in the bass! As soon as the guitar comes in, it loses the momentum. In my opinion the chord progression just goes to the wrong direction. It is what I haven't liked in modern Mortification songs. The chord progression just rubs me wrong. And here the guitar squealing doesn't help much.
I like the "Scribe of the Pentateuch" part. While the "blackmetal" voice of Steve wasn't anything too amazing in The Jaws of Life, I think in this song it's one of the things that can hook the listener to the song. Or at least it hooked me. I find the sentence to be in perfect length for that voice and it sounds somewhat otherworldy. I like it. This part however suffers a bit from the production and the simplicity of the drumming. It still sounds like a drum machine even though it quite likely isn't. Andrew plays the thrash drumming well but the fills sound like he doesn't dare to try something better. But hey, it is still more complex and risky than anything Manowar's Scott Columbus has ever done and he was a drum hero to some! Overall that part is my favourite part from the whole song and it sounds much better in the live video that's uploaded in Mort's Youtube channel (well, I like Steve's vocals better in the album version but the playing feels better live).
I don't believe at all that the quality will be better when listened from the actual album. I mean, I've listened to amazingly many songs in Youtube and even the most low quality uploads have felt good if the actual songs have been good too. I'm not a lover of hi-fi, and most of the time I can't tell the difference between audio qualities.
What comes to the drums sounding like a drum machine, I think it's because they are so buried under everything else and because Andrew doesn't take any risks in playing them. That makes it sound like the drums doesn't have "a real drum" power and because the fills and movements between parts are really simple, it sounds like machine programmed stuff where "the human hand" can't be heard.
I've been listening to the new concert video for a while now. Extradiefor sounded pretty good but it had some clear modern Mortification "flaws" too. Weapons of Mass Salvation actually sounds really good! I might buy the album just because of that song.
In the concert The Destroyer Beholds and Brutal Warfare shows the old songs just are really REALLY good when compared to the new songs. And Mortification plays them really well with this lineup too.
Hmmmmmm.... also The Jaws of Life sounds much better in the live video than in the album... I can even hear past the problems I wrote when reviewing the song. Interesting...
In Garland Hall isn't too bad... Obviously Steve is no Pavarotti so the clean parts are somewhat out of tune, but I can hear a good song hiding there somewhere. And hey, I like when metal singers are doing their thing without much thinking about technical things. I want to hear the album version of this.
So...... I was disappointed at first. I still don't think those two songs are anything too remarkable, but I've grown to like some parts of them and from what I heard in the live video, there are some good things in the rest of the album too.
And while Steve these days is not the best showmen in concerts during playing but man he's got humor! He's a really funny guy and does well the speaking parts. Also, the concert seemed to pick up some heat during the last two songs. The band was starting to feel tighter and the audience was starting to feel it too. And then it ended. I think with two more killer tunes they could've had more people coming near the stage. It was just starting to sound really great.
So, that was what I thought about the album (and other things too). I hope it wasn't too much of spreading "negativism" as I was just trying to be honest here. Just honestly saying what I liked and what I didn't. The good and the bad.
And hey, I am one of the rare people who actually loves the album cover! _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:23 am | |
| My CD copy arrived. I'm enjoying it. "Extradiefor" is definitely in the spirit of the first album. Pure thrash/death metal. "Jaws of Life" has a similar vibe, only with a twist due to some clean singing vocals, which is new for Steve Rowe. Steve has never been afraid to try new things musically and vocally and break a mold.
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GrandNational Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 3830 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:26 pm | |
| Scott, I'm assuming those bonus tracks are not re-recorded, correct? | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Mortification - Scribe of the Penateuch Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:46 pm | |
| - GrandNational wrote:
- Scott, I'm assuming those bonus tracks are not re-recorded, correct?
No, just four tracks from more recent recordings. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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jerseyultifan+ Metal master
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