Is Iced Earth this generation's Iron Maiden?

Epic metal. Iron Maiden epitomized it for my generation.

Is Iced Earth that band for the heavy metal kiddies today?

Discuss.

Iced Earth, essentially, sucks IMO.

Nah.

I think they've been around long enough to be lumped in as part of the Maiden-fan base. They aren't "new" enough to be the voice of a new generation if that makes sense.

I would say they were if they would have stayed along the lines of Burnt Offerings through Horrorshow. They had everything going for them and were putting out great album after great album.

Just like Maiden these guys couldnt go wrong in the time period when they were at there peak.

I actually prefer Barlow era Iced Earth to Iron Maiden...

No. I love Iced Earth, especially Barlow-era stuff, but they're just not prominent or pioneering enough to be considered any generation's Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden are still this generation's Iron Maiden, it's actually ridiculous how pervasive an influence that band still has.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Nah.

I think they've been around long enough to be lumped in as part of the Maiden-fan base. They aren't "new" enough to be the voice of a new generation if that makes sense.

I agree.

no

I really don't think there is too much "this generation's whatever band". I think the bands which have made large impacts are all unique and that is why they made impacts. There will be other hugely important and influential bands, but they will be who they are, and that will be why they are who they are.

I dont look at it from an influential perspective here. I cant even begin to think of any band in the last 15 years who has any sort of influence on the metal world. Most influences come from the beginning therefore the term pioneers comes to mind. Thats what Maiden were IMO.

Based on music alone is what I base my opinion on. They had the voice, the songwriting, and the music.

To ask such a thing is ridiculous from the get go IMO simply because of the fact that no matter how good a song, songs, image, albums, whatever it may be, may be today or in the past 15 years, it is not 1980 where metal is about to explode worldwide, and the kids are not hungry for it in the same way and in the same numbers..................it's completely different, apples and oranges..

MetalRob331 wrote:

I dont look at it from an influential perspective here. I cant even begin to think of any band in the last 15 years who has any sort of influence on the metal world. Most influences come from the beginning therefore the term pioneers comes to mind. Thats what Maiden were IMO.

Based on music alone is what I base my opinion on. They had the voice, the songwriting, and the music.

They had a voice, some songwriting and music, but it is Iced Earth voice, songs and music. Although I kinda get people asking questions like the OP, they really don't make much sense. I don't believe you are saying that that era of IE was a Maiden clone, but that is the only way I can find to interpret your statement above.

AchrisK wrote:

MetalRob331 wrote:

I dont look at it from an influential perspective here. I cant even begin to think of any band in the last 15 years who has any sort of influence on the metal world. Most influences come from the beginning therefore the term pioneers comes to mind. Thats what Maiden were IMO.

Based on music alone is what I base my opinion on. They had the voice, the songwriting, and the music.

They had a voice, some songwriting and music, but it is Iced Earth voice, songs and music. Although I kinda get people asking questions like the OP, they really don't make much sense. I don't believe you are saying that that era of IE was a Maiden clone, but that is the only way I can find to interpret your statement above.

Im saying they had the same elements to there music. Not saying they sound like them Im just saying they follow that same path of just making great music.

iron maiden are iron maiden for this generation coz they're still going.
although i do love iced earth, musically, lyrically, vocally etc... they just not on the same plain as iron maiden.

both bands still rule!

i remeber seeing iced earth and they got a very stoney reception

No I don't think Iced Earth is this generation's Iron Maiden, I think when the book of metal is finally written by ULT, I am sure they will have earned a small chapter.

Iron Maiden is today's Iron Maiden, simly because they are not dead yet!

maiden sure still are kicking ass these days

kmorg wrote:

Iron Maiden is today's Iron Maiden, simly because they are not dead yet!

Yea I feel the same way. Iced Earth at one time could have pulled it off but it dropped the ball when Barlow left. The Glorious Burden was an awesome album and Ripper did great in Iced Earth for the short time he was there. If he stayed I would have said maybe they could have gotten even more popular, but now Barlow is back and the last album was not that good. Hopefully it was just a small fumble. Otherwise them being the next Iron Maiden, I dont really see it.

i'm sure Jon Schaffer thinks they are.

NO!!!

No way. Iron Maiden is still Iron Maiden.

Not to say that Iced Earth are not good, they rock. But comparing them to the mighty Maiden, well...

mc666 wrote:

i'm sure Jon Schaffer thinks they are.

The man speaks truth.

I dont think so.Todays generation would have to pick a more flavor of the month band for their Maiden.

This topic probably would have made more sense about ten years ago. Anyway, to answer the question, if we're talking significance to heavy metal, then NO. Iced Earth is not the metal giant Maiden is.

But if we're talking about "updating the sound of Iron Maiden" and continuing their tradition of earnest and true heavy metal, then yeah, sure. Why not? They are at least one of those bands doing it.

It's probably impossible for a band to have the significance of Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, Metallica..because it's 20 and 30 years later, metal is a long way from getting it's legs and such. So I struggle to really understand the true focus of the question, but I believe there may be something to the idea of......we want more bands that can do the huge tours, theatrics, the LEGEND, and have great songwriting? If so, we will find plenty of great songwriting since these classic bands......but the industry and even the fans in some aspects have sort of made sure that is a near impossibility again...

No they're not good enough. Iron Maiden are still around and as good as ever, they don't need replacing just yet.