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Metal Misfit wrote:
Trailer looks pretty faithful to the original series... so far (supposed to combine events from the first three). The problem with remakes though is that if you do something a little different, you're gonna get nailed by all the fans of the original but if you're playing it straight and true to the original... What's the point? Regardless, definitely going to see it because I'm a Jason freak and it was written by the guys who wrote the awesome FvJ.

Honestly, I'd rather see a continuation of Freddy vs. Jason or just Jason on his own rather than a revamp/remake of the franchise.

I LOVE Friday the 13th. The original Halloween movie is better than any Jason movie, but as a whole, I prefer the Friday franchise.

Here's how I'd rank'em:
1. Part VI
2. Part I
3. Part III
4. Freddy Vs. Jason
5. Part VIII (nostalgic reasons, my first Jason movie)
6. Part II
8. Part IV
9. Part VII
10. Part V
11. Jason X
12. Goes to Hell (the only one I don't own on DVD, just not a priority because it totally betrayed the series and sucks)

Anyone own the Friday the 13th box set (movies, not TV show)? I break it out every October. Smile

I've got the movie and Tv show set, good times. Cool
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There was a Friday the 13th TV series? How did they fit the Jason character into the series, also I seem to remember a Nightmare on Elm Street series also, but I am not sure, but I am glad I grow up when I did, I don't care much for horror-porn movies like SAW and others that copied that film series formula.
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PostSubject: Re: Friday The 13th Trailer   Friday The 13th Trailer - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 12:12 pm

The only "Fridays" I have on DVD are part VI, VIII, and "Jason X." I used to have them all up to and including "Jason Goes To Hell" on VHS though. As I said I kinda burned myself out on the first four or five movies so I never bothered to upgrade those to DVD, I got VI and VIII cheap at WalMart a few Halloween seasons ago and picked up "Jason X" a few months back when the supermarket near me was closing down their movie-rental department and were selling off all the DVDs for five bucks.

The box set would probably be pretty sweet but I doubt I'd ever watch half of them...

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There was a Friday the 13th TV series? How did they fit the Jason character into the series

Jason wasn't in the "Friday the 13th" TV series, it was "F13" in name only. The series revolved around a couple who inherited an antique shop from their Uncle, who'd made a deal with Satan that cursed anything sold in his store. They spent each episode tracking down a different "Cursed" antique before it could do something horrible to its new owners.. Sounds dumb, I know, but it was actually a pretty good show, much better than it sounds.

The "Elm St." show was called "Freddy's Nightmares," it was a "Twilight Zone" style horror anthology in which Freddy was only the host/narrator. He'd pop up at the beginning/end of each episode to make a few wisecracks about the story.

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PostSubject: Re: Friday The 13th Trailer   Friday The 13th Trailer - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 12:22 pm

I never saw those shows but I also remember a short lived anthology series from Steven Spielsberg " Amazing Stories" and newier versions of "Alfred Hitcock Presents" and "Twlight Zone" in the 80's. This must been the era for anthology horror series, how missed the Friday the 13th and Nightmare series I'll never know.
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PostSubject: Re: Friday The 13th Trailer   Friday The 13th Trailer - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 12:26 pm

Yea, there were a mess of those horror anthology shows in the late 80s... in addition to the "F13" and "Freddy's Nightmares" series, there were also "Monsters" and "Tales from the Darkside."

My sophomore-year college roommate and I were both big time loser dorks with no girlfriends, so our idea of a big Saturday night back then was watching all of those shows with a couple of 12-packs. Laughing

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My favorite is Part VI. I try not to take horror movies from the 80's too seriously. I think Part IV is one of the weakest, after Jason Goes To Hell.

My favorites in order....

1. Part VI
2. Part II
3. Part VII (Jason is extra brutal in this one, as if he's pissed at the crappy plot. The sleeping bag vs. tree is my favorite kill scene of all these movies)
4. Part III He gets his mask and the black bikers are just so anti-cliche)
5. Part I
6. Part IV
7. X
8. Part VIII
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9. Jason Goes To Hell


Wow, not a lover of Part IV! Blasphemy (LOL)!

#1 I love the first four for various reasons. Not that the acting has been a premium in the Friday films, but part IV in particular had actors who had either some film experience, or they went onto bigger and better things in film or TV. The acting after Part IV went big time into the tank. It got to the point where I was hoping the female lead would get killed. The guys were even bigger douchebags. Paul, Rick, Rob (who were the last guys to get killed in II, III, IV) were somewhat identifiable in who they were and how they carried themselves. The casting of Tommy in Part VI was easily the worst actor the series ever had. To make matters worse he had either a lisp or a horrible accent. Everytime the guy opened his mouth, I wanted to cringe. He sounded like he just got off the boat from Ireland. Horrible actor!

#2 The locations for the films of the first 4 were spot on. They were classic locations, with somewhat iconic sets. Especially the barn in part III, and Jason's living quarters in part II. You never had that type of feel in any of the other movies after the first four. The location shoots for VI and VII were terrible. There is something distinctive about the outdoors/woods in the northeast where the first 2 were shot, and the south, where VI & VII were shot.

#3 I enjoy flesh tone Jason, unlike zombified Jason in VI & VII, which were a bag a bones look. VII was the worst when it came to this...you could actually see the inside of Jason beyond his ribs. I enjoy the human element of Jason much more. I like to know that he has a functioning heart with organs, unlike some guy walking around with all major arteries and blood completely void from his inner being.

#4 Reflecting upon this further. Even though Jason had pretty good recovery skills regarding the machete he took in part II to the shoulder, and the axe he took to the head in part III, he wasn't the comic book Jason which he became in later installments. If you gave him a swift kick to the balls like Ginny did in part II he fell down, or when Kris hit him with a piece of firewood over the head in part III he would be stunned. In the later installments it got ridiculously stupid. If I want to see that type of movie, I'll go see a Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Hulk, or Iron Man movie.

#5 Part VI also ushered in stupid comedic elements, and kills where people would laugh in the audience. For instance, the paint ball scene in the movie...totally stupid. When the girl gets her face rammed into the bathroom wall of the R.V, and it makes an impression in the wall (like a mold). Stuff like that got a total uproar of approval from the audience. You didn't have that stuff in the first 4 installments. People were actually on the edge of their seats, and scared. If I want to see comedy, I'll go watch a comedy, I don't need that from a Friday The 13th movie.

#6 Harry Manfredini whose music has been intrical since the first installment got progressively worse. The score was perfect for the first five movies. It started to go down hill in the VI and VII installments, and Harry wasn't even used for parts VIII or IX (even subpar Manfredini is better than none). His score for X was awful. In fact between Jason X, & Def Leppard's X, I might go with the Leps, and that was truly awful.

http://www.harrymanfredini.com/media/Friday%20the%2013th/03%20Part%202%20Titles.mp3


http://www.harrymanfredini.com/media/Friday%20the%2013th/01%20Part%203%20Titles.mp3

http://www.harrymanfredini.com/media/Friday%20the%2013th/02%20Moments%20of%20Terror.mp3

I've had these downloaded for a while, but here are three MP3's that are basically free to the general public since they're not on any album. You can purchase these on Harry's website, and he will sign them. Enjoy, if you don't already have these. I love the score to Halloween, but will take Friday the 13th even over that of Halloween.

I could probably come up with more, but that's enough.

#1 Friday The 13th Part II
#2 Friday The 13th Part IV (interchangeable)
#3 Friday The 13th Part III
#4 Friday The 13th
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#5 Friday The 13th Part V
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#6 Friday The 13th Part VII
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#7 Friday The 13th Part VIII
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#8 Friday The 13th Part VI
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There aren't enough dots in the world to go down further for the abominations that are Part IX and X!
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spectrefate wrote:
At the end of Part 6, I thought how they killed Loomis off was pretty tasteful considering he died during filming.

Was his character supposed to die in that one, or did they have to do a quick re-write on the fly after the fact? I've always wondered if that might have been part of the reason that "Halloween 6" was such a confused mess.

I've also heard that "Halloween 6" was subject to massive editing/re-shooting prior to release, to the point that the director wanted to sue the studio to have his name taken off of the movie. Supposedly there are bootlegs of a "director's cut" of "Halloween 6" circulating and that is much better than what eventually got released. Legend has it that if they'd released that version it could've been the best film of the series. Anyone familiar with it?

I've seen if Freddy, and yes this original ending kicks ass!!! I had a friend who purchased a bootleg copy on VHS. I liked the movie anyhow. I thought it harkened back to the old days. I like that they brought the Tommy Doyle character into things, and the fact that they revisited the past. The shameful part of the movie was the recasting of the Jamey character. Supposedly it was over peanuts also. I think Moustapha Akkad said it was the biggest mistake not letting Daniel Harris reprise her role.
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I thought it was cool that Rob Zombie put Danielle Harris in his remake. Smile

I was going to watch Friday the 13th movies all week, now I may just watch all the Halloween movies instead.
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The acting after Part IV went big time into the tank.

Nowhere is this more evident than in Part V: A New Beginning, when the biggest name actor in the movie was the kid who had previously played "Dudley," Arnold's friend on "Diff'rent Strokes." Laughing

The blonde female lead in "Friday the 13th: Part VI" couldn't act worth a lick but at least she was hot. ("Wherever the red dot goes, ya bang!" Haha) ...though according to her listing on IMDB, she never made another movie after "F13 Part VI." Sad

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Nowhere is this more evident than in Part V: A New Beginning, when the biggest name actor in the movie was the kid who had previously played "Dudley," Arnold's friend on "Diff'rent Strokes." Laughing

My favorite part of bad acting in that movie is when "Dudley"'s brother comes to visit him at the home and has to take a crap because of a bad burrito. The ensueing song between the brother and his girlfriend (entitled "Baby, Hey Baby" I believe) is just the pinnacle of bad acting. I always wonder why the girl is hanging outside the shitter while he's taking a dump. Smile
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I thought it was cool that Rob Zombie put Danielle Harris in his remake. Smile

I was going to watch Friday the 13th movies all week, now I may just watch all the Halloween movies instead.

I have mixed thoughts on the remake. The ending really through me for a loop. I liked the backstory of course, even though it was tough watching a little kid butcher as many people as he did. I don't know if that's my cup of tea? I still see children as being fairly innocent people in life, and that's after having worked for four years with kids who have emotional disabilities.
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Fat Freddy wrote:


Nowhere is this more evident than in Part V: A New Beginning, when the biggest name actor in the movie was the kid who had previously played "Dudley," Arnold's friend on "Diff'rent Strokes." Laughing

My favorite part of bad acting in that movie is when "Dudley"'s brother comes to visit him at the home and has to take a crap because of a bad burrito. The ensueing song between the brother and his girlfriend (entitled "Baby, Hey Baby" I believe) is just the pinnacle of bad acting. I always wonder why the girl is hanging outside the shitter while he's taking a dump. Smile

Laughing very hard Yea, and if memory serves "Dudley's" brother has this obnoxiously huge, oh-so-'80s Jermaine Jackson/Purple Rain Jheri-Curl hair do, which makes the whole thing even funnier.

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The acting after Part IV went big time into the tank.

Nowhere is this more evident than in Part V: A New Beginning, when the biggest name actor in the movie was the kid who had previously played "Dudley," Arnold's friend on "Diff'rent Strokes." Laughing

The blonde female lead in "Friday the 13th: Part VI" couldn't act worth a lick but at least she was hot. ("Wherever the red dot goes, ya bang!" Haha) According to her listing on IMDB, she never made another movie.

Yeah, I remember Dudley from Different Strokes. I guess the guy is born again in real life, so I'm not sure how he feels about the Friday films?

Jennifer Cooke was the girl in part VI. She was in the television show "V". She was the character known as the starchild. I didn't really care for her in that. She went from being a little kid to a young adult in a matter of days. I loved the TV movie "V", but the show didn't live up to expectations, especially after Michael Ironsides character was more or less written out.
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Jennifer Cooke was the girl in part VI. She was in television show "V". She was the character known as the starchild. I didn't really care for her in that. Over a few days she went from being a little kid to a young adult in a matter of days. I loved the TV movie "V", but the show didn't live up to expectations, especially after Michael Ironsides character was more or less written out.

That's right, I couldn't remember her name. I was a big "V" fan when I was in high school. The two "V" mini-series were pretty awesome (by 1984-85 standards anyway) but they probably shouldn't have turned it into a weekly series... the premise didn't really lend itself to weekly installments anyway (after a while it turned into "The A-Team" with lizard bad guys) and you could tell the series was done with a much lower budget as well.

DC did a pretty decent (if short lived) comic book series version of "V" but it only ran for about a year and a half if memory serves. There were quite a few paperback novels based on it too. I'm kinda surprised that it never developed into a cult thing like "Star Trek" and so many other sci-fi shows have. You'd think the Sci-Fi Channel would at least be re-running "V" every so often but I haven't seen it in years.

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Jennifer Cooke was the girl in part VI. She was in television show "V". She was the character known as the starchild. I didn't really care for her in that. Over a few days she went from being a little kid to a young adult in a matter of days. I loved the TV movie "V", but the show didn't live up to expectations, especially after Michael Ironsides character was more or less written out.

That's right, I couldn't remember her name. I was a big "V" fan when I was in high school. The two "V" mini-series were pretty awesome (by 1984-85 standards anyway) but they probably shouldn't have turned it into a weekly series... the premise didn't really lend itself to weekly installments anyway (after a while it turned into "The A-Team" with lizard bad guys) and you could tell the series was done with a much lower budget as well.

DC did a pretty decent (if short lived) comic book series version of "V" but it only ran for about a year and a half if memory serves. There were quite a few paperback novels based on it too. I'm kinda surprised that it never developed into a cult thing like "Star Trek" and so many other sci-fi shows have. You'd think the Sci-Fi Channel would at least be re-running "V" every so often but I haven't seen it in years.

It was a cult favorite in Europe. There was talk about bringing it back, and that Faye Grant, Jane Badler, Marc Singer, and maybe even Robert Englund would reprise their roles. I got pissed at the show when they wrote out Michael Wright (Christmas episode) who played Elias. He got blasted by some weapon that the visitors were using. It actually made you disappear. Shortly after that they wrote out the Michael Ironside character. He supposedly was going to help with the resistance movement in another part of the country.
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Michael Ironside's "V" character ("Ham" Tyler) was bad-ass. Of course, Michael Ironside himself is bad-ass so that's no surprise. Laughing

It would be cool to see Sci-Fi Channel do a "reboot" of "V" like they did with "Battlestar: Galactica"

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I love the first two Halloween movies but after that they were all terrible including H2O, I thought it would really be cool to bring back Jamie Lee Curtis but it was just another cheesy horror film.

The Friday the 13th series is a guilty pleasure, and as the series worn on the acting got worse, which made them even funnier to watch. I am not looking forward to the remake, and I am sure it will be an update of the origins of Jason similar to what Rob Zombie did in his remake of " Halloween"

Speaking of Zombie's Halloween, I didn't care for it, I agree with Freddy's wife, it was better when they left Michael Myers a mystery. Overhyped and overrated.
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I love the first two Halloween movies but after that they were all terrible including H2O, I thought it would really be cool to bring back Jamie Lee Curtis but it was just another cheesy horror film.
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I quite liked "H20" mainly because they chose to pick up the continuity where "Halloween II" left off and therefore pretended that all the sequels that came in between never happened... The ending of "H20" would've been a GREAT way to cap off the entire series, but no, they had to go and make "Resurrection" after it and screw it all up again. Sad

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Michael Ironside's "V" character ("Ham" Tyler) was bad-ass. Of course, Michael Ironside himself is bad-ass so that's no surprise. Laughing

It would be cool to see Sci-Fi Channel do a "reboot" of "V" like they did with "Battlestar: Galactica"

....and Michael Ironsides assistant as he was known Chris something or another. I love when they burst onto the scene in the movie. Ham Tyler was letting them know how lucky they got with their little stunt on TV, where they exposed the visitors for what they really were. Ham used to always carry around that uzi. He was awesome. He wore the black leather coat. I loved when he poured the whole bag of red dust on one of the leaders in the last part of the movie. He said something funny and just walked away.
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Fat Freddy wrote:
Michael Ironside's "V" character ("Ham" Tyler) was bad-ass. Of course, Michael Ironside himself is bad-ass so that's no surprise. Laughing

It would be cool to see Sci-Fi Channel do a "reboot" of "V" like they did with "Battlestar: Galactica"

....and Michael Ironsides assistant as he was known Chris something or another. I love when they burst onto the scene in the movie. Ham Tyler was letting them know how lucky they got with their little stunt on TV, where they exposed the visitors for what they really were. Ham used to always carry around that uzi. He was awesome. He wore the black leather coat. I loved when he poured the whole bag of red dust on one of the leaders in the last part of the movie. He said something funny and just walked away.

Nobody can play tough guys like Ironside. His bad-guy character in "Scanners" speaks one of my favorite lines of dialogue in movie history: "I'm gonna SUCK YOUR BRAIN DRY!" haha

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manny wrote:
I love the first two Halloween movies but after that they were all terrible including H2O, I thought it would really be cool to bring back Jamie Lee Curtis but it was just another cheesy horror film.
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I quite liked "H20" mainly because they chose to pick up the continuity where "Halloween II" left off and therefore pretended that all the sequels that came in between never happened... The ending of "H20" would've been a GREAT way to cap off the entire series, but no, they had to go and make "Resurrection" after it and screw it all up again. Sad

I think that was only saving grace of H20 is that they ignored the other sequels, and it was too bad Donal Pleasances had passed away, he was always fun to watch, even in the not so great sequels. "Resurration" also sucked because after all the crap her character goes thru, Michael Myers gets rid of her in the first ten minutes of the movie.
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they had to go and make "Resurrection" after it and screw it all up again. Sad

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Fat Freddy wrote:
they had to go and make "Resurrection" after it and screw it all up again. Sad

Yous a Busta Hata?

The main reason I rented "Resurrection" was because I hoped to see Michael Myers crush Busta's head like a grape. Laughing

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"Resurration" also sucked because after all the crap her character goes thru, Michael Myers gets rid of her in the first ten minutes of the movie.

I've heard that Jamie Lee Curtis would only agree to appear in "Resurrection" if it were a cameo appearance and that her character would be killed off (presumably so they wouldn't be calling her to do any more sequels, haha)

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spectrefate wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
they had to go and make "Resurrection" after it and screw it all up again. Sad

Yous a Busta Hata?

The main reason I rented "Resurrection" was because I hoped to see Michael Myers crush Busta's head like a grape. Laughing

Unfortunately this was the pathetic direction that horror movies started to go in. Same thing with action flicks, bringing rappers in so they can bring in a few more bucks from the teenage crowd. For instance the movie Exit Wounds with Steven Seagal, they had to put that bozo DMX in there. I know the guy is tough on the street, but Steven Seagal even when he is fat would kick his ass all over the place. Of course they had to have DMX get in his blows against Seagal, and it looked totally ridiculous.
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