Bootlegs

I hope that more labels will make some legit re-releases from albums to stop all the bootleggers from making big bucks without paying a fair cut to all the bands.

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

Now look what the fool is bootlegging:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDICTlVE-CD-Pity-of-Man-1989-RARE-THRASH-Mortal-Sin_W0QQitemZ260138997871QQihZ016QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seriously, is there nothing he won't make a boot of?

i could not understand why he made a bootleg of this album as the original pressing is not rare.

Man, I am bummed! Turns out my Fifth Angel - s/t album is a bootleg to! They actually copied the obi strip to the back of the trey card to make it loo like a Japanese pressing!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200180766117&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

Look who's the seller ... and he also had a bunch of other longbox releases at that time

sovdat wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200180766117&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

Look who's the seller ... and he also had a bunch of other longbox releases at that time

hehehehe, although you're young you'll careful,hehehehehe.....guess who's best man of this seller from the bidders,hehehehehe.....at least i was given that heathen's rage cd for free,hehehehe......his press was broken but now is full in action from what i see in his auctions,hehehehe.....


edit: i'm sure stormspell would be suprised a lot if he knew who's best man of this seller....yeah, pretty unbelievable 'cause he has a great and legit to the core record label...

Well, what the hell is this :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Exciter-Heavy-Metal-Maniac_W0QQitemZ220192356659QQihZ012QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

?!

kmorg wrote:

Man, I am bummed! Turns out my Fifth Angel - s/t album is a bootleg to! They actually copied the obi strip to the back of the trey card to make it loo like a Japanese pressing!!

man, all of these "japanese" pressings of fifth angel, phantom, many of apocrypha, paganini, kryst the conqueror etc etc were pressed in a well known factory in croatia by a well known bootlegger....but these days nobody cares.....i guess it's cool to buy some bootlegs from the ebay to show to your friends.....

these are the last titles pressed almost an year ago...i got this email while they were still hot from the plant....a friend of mine who sold some of them to all those paypal metal warriors with ebay shield bought a nice appartment in the centre of athens...

1. AGONY - The first Defiance CD

2. APOCRYPHA - The Eyes of Time CD

3. APOCRYPHA - Area 54 CD

4. APOSTLE - Prepate to meet... CD

5. ASPHYX - The Rack CD

6. ATTILA – Rollin’ thunder CD

7. BANSHEE – Race against time CD

8. BLITZKRIEG - A Time of Changes CD

9. BLOODLUST - Terminal Velocity + Guilty as Sin CD

10. CHINA – Same CD

11. COBRA - Warriors of the Dead + Back from the Dead CD

12. COVEN - Blessed is the Black CD

13. CYCLONE - Inferior to None CD

14. DAMMAJ - Mutiny CD

15. DAMIEN - Angel Juice CD

16. DARK STAR - Same CD

17. DEATHROW - Raging steel CD

18. DEATHROW - Satan´s Gift + Riders of Doom CD

19. DIAMOND HEAD - Borrowed Time CD

20. DIAMOND HEAD - Canterbury CD

21. EASTCOAST - Same CD

22. EMERALD / ORACLE - Armed for Battle / Selah CD

23. EXE - Sicker than I thought CD

24. EYES - Same CD

25. FIFTH ANGEL - Same CD

26. FIFTH ANGEL - Time will tell CD

27. FORCE 3 - Warrior of Light CD

28. GLASGOW - Same CD

29. HEATHENS RAGE - EP + Unreleased songs CD

30. HEAVEN'S EDGE - Same CD

31. HEAVY LOAD - Death or glory CD

32. HEAVY LOAD - Stronger than evil CD

33. HEXENHAUS - A tribute to Insanity CD

34. HEXENHAUS - Edge of Eternity CD

35. HEXENHAUS - Awakening CD

36. HURRICANE - Over the Edge CD

37. HURRICANE - Slave to the Thrill CD

38. I.N.C. - Razorback CD

39. I.N.C. - Visitor CD

40. INCUBUS - To the devil a daughter CD

41. JULLIET - Same CD

42. LAAZ ROCKIT - Nothing Sacred CD

43. LAAZ ROCKIT - No stranger to Danger CD

44. LAAZ ROCKIT - City's Gonna Burn CD

45. LEGEND - From the Fjords CD

46. MESSIAH FORCE - The Last Day CD

47. MILLENNIUM - Same CD

48. MYTHRA – Death and Destiny CD

49. NUCLEAR ASSAULT - Survive CD

50. ONSLAUGHT - In search of Sanity CD

51. OZ - III Warning + Decibel Storm CD

52. OZ – Hey You + Fire in the brain CD

53. PAGANINI - It's a long way to the top CD

54. PAGANINI - Weapon of Love CD

55. PANTERA – Power Metal CD

56. RANKELSON – Hungry for Blood + The Bastards of Rock n’ roll CD

57. REALM - Suiciety CD

58. RECON - Behind Enemy Lines CD

59. RIGOR MORTIS - Same CD

60. ATTACK - Return of the evil CD

61. RODS - Heavier Than Thou + Holywood Project CD

62. ROKO - Same CD

63. ROKO – Think about tomorrow CD

64. SACRED REICH – American Way CD

65. SACRED REICH - Surf Nicaragua CD

66. SACRED WARRIOR - Rebellion CD

67. SATAN - Court in the Act CD

68. SAVAGE GRACE - After the fall from Grace CD

69. SAVAGE STEEL - Do or Die CD

70. ANACRUSIS - Reason CD

71. SHIVA - Firedance CD

72. SHOK PARIS – Steel and Starlight CD

73. SIREN - Financial Suicide CD

74. SKAGARACK - Same CD

75. SKAGARACK - Hungry for a Game CD

76. SKAGARACK - A slice of Heaven CD

77. SORTILEGE - Heroe's Tears CD

78. SORTILEGE - Metamorphose CD

79. SORTILEGE - Same CD

80. STEELER - Same + Rulin’ the earth CD

81. TANK - Same + Power of the hunter CD

82. TYGERS OF PAN TANG - Spellbound CD

83. TYGERS OF PAN TANG - Wild Cat CD

84. TYGERS OF PAN TANG - Crazy Nights CD

85. TYKETTO - Don't come easy CD

86. TYTON - Mind Over Metal + Castle Donington CD

87. VALENTINE - Same CD

88. VANADIUM - Seventh Heaven CD

89. VANADIUM - Corruption of Innocence CD

90. VANADIUM - Metal Rock + A race the devil CD

91. VANADIUM - Born to fight + Game over CD

92. VARIOUS - KENT ROCKS + IT'S UNHEARD OF! CD

93. VISITOR - Same CD

94. VXN – Winter Crys CD

95. WORLD WAR III – Same CD

96. WRATHCHILD - Trash Queens CD

97. XENTRIX - For whose advantage CD

98. XENTRIX - Shattered CD

99. ZNOWHITE - Act of God CD

100. FAITHFUL BREATH - Back on my hill + Live CD

There's a longer list one the 1st page of this thread, I believe that it was originally made by John from OPM Records ...

"... factory in Croatia ..." ???!?!? Are you sure??? Croatia?!? No way!! You probably meant Greece ... anyhow, the Greek ebay seller like ritroids etc. always have a bunch of INCs and others

I am quite familiar with Croatian metal scene (in fact, I live about 30 kms near Croatian border), and there're no traces about any factory at all ...

sovdat wrote:

There's a longer list one the 1st page of this thread, I believe that it was originally made by John from OPM Records ...

"... factory in Croatia ..." ???!?!? Are you sure??? Croatia?!? No way!! You probably meant Greece ... anyhow, the Greek ebay seller like ritroids etc. always have a bunch of INCs and others

I am quite familiar with Croatian metal scene (in fact, I live about 30 kms near Croatian border), and there're no traces about any factory at all ...

no i'm not talking 'bout mitsos here aka riotrods....i should have written "factory"...

Next time you see you're friend, do us a favor and give him a good sock in the kidney. Be sure to tell him it's courtesy of the heartofmetal forum after you do it.

syrus wrote:

edit: i'm sure stormspell would be suprised a lot if he knew who's best man of this seller....yeah, pretty unbelievable 'cause he has a great and legit to the core record label...

I can make a guess

So who's this guy / company in Croatia then and where are they located??? The guy from Drinking Skull / Full Metal Jacket label??? He's been missing in action for years

This guy's probably a bootleger, right?

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmomusic

sovdat wrote:

This guy's probably a bootleger, right?

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sure not B.E.(before ebay)...

sovdat wrote:

This guy's probably a bootleger, right?

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http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmomusic[/quote[/url]]

Legit as far as I can tell. He USED to have a website where I got Death Power, ADX, Antidote, Havoc Mass, and a few others. All were first press originals.

Anyone here in the possession of first Angel Dust CD?

Here's mine, I'm 99.99% that it's a bootleg, but it still looks WAY better than nowadays Greek boots.


If I'm correct, the original has ads for other Scratch releases in the booklet, while the bootleg (this one) has a blank booklet. The inserts aren't printed very well too here.

If it was truly made in Japan, it would not be crappy, as you describe. The Japanese take pride in thier workmanship and would not release anything like that.

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SAXON1500 wrote:

If it was truly made in Japan, it would not be crappy, as you describe. The Japanese take pride in thier workmanship and would not release anything like that.

Those CDs were made in Japan for German market ... or on the other hand, many early Combat CDs were made in Japan for US market, and they too come with cheap few paged inserts ..

Quote :

http://www4.pf-x.net/~steeler/

I've been curious for a while how reliable some of their info is. For example, they show Alastor - Syndroms Of The Cities (they list the band as Alastar) as being released on CD. I'm not sure that is true, as I've never seen it nor met any collector that has it.

Yeah, there's a couple of weird stuff, for example Say Uncle is listed to exist in (at least) 2 versions, not just the known Virgin, but as well Caroline ... but overall it's pretty good source I'd say.

Hi guys. Here's a few things I own that I'm suspicious of:





Sigh - Scorn Defeat (was new and bought from eBay seller demen1104)



Graveland - Thousand Swords (New and bought from Deathgasm on eBay.
Worth noting because the text "Thousand Swords" on the front cover is
silver)



The Chasm - Deathcult For Eternity: The Triumph (new copy from eBay
seller wwpins; was the only seller who had this. The words "SONOPRESS"
and "THE CHASM" appear in the ring however not the album title.)



Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi (It's a factory sealed press of DLS
version from seller erwilson326. I've very suspicious because this
guy's from Taiwan and he has many rare items not to mention he goes out
of his way to mention they're not fakes. He does however mention when a
bootleg is a bootleg and most of his items are used. It's in perfect
condition but feels old. Matrix says "Tocano DK 40462" and elsewhere on
the ring "IFPI LP51" and "0014").



Necrophiliac - Chaopula: Citadel Of Mirrors (Sealed copy from a
store called NetSoundMusic. It looks and feels very old despite being
sealed but then again I bought it for $25 plus shipping. Selling only
one copy.)



Ras Algethi - Onericon: White Hypnotic (Bought from Amazon for a
steep price. Factory sealed and in perfect condition but felt old.
Seller was horizons50 and the store is Horizons Music and they say they
specialize in hard to find and out of print CDs/LPs. Only one copy was
being sold. Booklet says at the left corner "WLR 95007". This is on the
front of the disc and "WLR95007 appears in the ring. I only ask about
this one because it's so rare.)



Phlebtomized - Immense Intense Suspense (expensive used copy from
Amazon seller levelingup that was in GREAT condition but felt sort of
old. Selling only the copy I got. Label is Cyber Music. Matrix says
"Dynamic 40823 * Cyber Music CD 12*")



Autumn Tears - Love Poems For Dying Children: Act 1 (A sealed copy
of reprise version from eBay seller metalpinss. Sold for a suspiciously
cheap $18.90 + shipping and the store had at least two complaints of a
bootlegged version of a Mortal Sin record and about three complaints of
"fake", "burned" or "duplicate" CDs despite the store explicitly
claiming they sell only "ORIGINAL CDs NOT FAKE CDRS ALSO WE DONT SELL
ANY RUSSIAN CDS". I'm convinced I got a smurfing fake. Ring/Matrix
number is "DIDX-092232" and elsewhere in the ring it says "IFPI L328")

Welcome to the board Geese.

Geese, my chasm cd says
sonopress chasm 12130 ifpil025
hope that helps
welcome to the board

btw, i'm the guy who gave you the link to this thread from the ultimatemetal.com forum

I only have 2

Metallica - New Skulls For the Old Ceremony
Treblinka - Severe Abominations