Bootlegs

sovdat wrote:

By the way, what's the matrix of the original Agony? Mine has no numbers, just the title

if the matrix number is just the title, it is bootleg without any doubt.

i could not remember what is the number for the original Agony, but

as the label is under one flag, i guess the number has to start with UOF.

the matrix number of recent bootlegs (as like Coven) is just the title.

any album whose the number starts with USDM, is also bootleg.

OK, if anyone has the original Agony, I'd be glad if you'd tell me the matrix number

At least I got Cyclone and Agony for cheap

CYCLONE matrix: CMCUCD 013

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a few days ago, i got Laaz Rockit - City's Gonna Burn in a local CD shop.


what do you think about this CD?

looks like original SPV MID PRICE one !!

but when i look the matrix number, oh my god !

the matrix number is just TITLE.

DEATH TO BOOTLEGGER

Well, this is how the Agony with "The First Defiance" matrix looks like :)



http://images6.pictiger.com/images/4c/709a245e8a08e2316c84635d8a85aa4c.jpg

pricekillers001 wrote:

a few days ago, i got Laaz Rockit - City's Gonna Burn in a local CD shop.


what do you think about this CD?

looks like original SPV MID PRICE one !!

but when i look the matrix number, oh my god !

the matrix number is just TITLE.

DEATH TO BOOTLEGGER

Yeah, the Greek bootleggers are getting better with each release. I heard that they duped bunch of Japan pressings with OBIs recently...

Can they bootleg matrix numbers?

sovdat wrote:

Can they bootleg matrix numbers?

I dont know. Perhaps not coz all Greek bootlegs I've seen so far has the band and album titles instead of matrix (IFPI) mumbers.

I'm sure the matrix numbers are next. Those greek bootleggers have gotten the discs looking closer and closer to the originals. Only a matter of time before they start collecting matrix numbers to try and add those.

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

I'm sure the matrix numbers are next. Those greek bootleggers have gotten the discs looking closer and closer to the originals. Only a matter of time before they start collecting matrix numbers to try and add those.

if same matrxi number bootleg is manufactured, the point that we differentiate original and bootleg would be scratch, dents, stains or something like that.

any scratched CD would be welcomed.

Laaz Rockit - Nothing'$ $acred

http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/101658



Znowhite - Act of God

http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/101657



both with original cat. numbers and / or bar codes, but apparently with
"slightly less quality print of covers and CD"; plus the back cover of
Znowhite has the songs in wrong order.

Visitör - what's the difference bertween the original and the recent bootleg?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190113198571

it seems our mighty greek bootleggers are also making sticker as well as OBI.

sovdat wrote:

Visitör - what's the difference bertween the original and the recent bootleg?

I dont know, but what mighty pisses me off is that there was an indy label working with the band on proper re-release with bonuses, but aborted it when the bootlegs popped out

Is this original Intruder?

I THINK that is the legit European pressing.

pricekillers001 wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190113198571

it seems our mighty greek bootleggers are also making sticker as well as OBI.

Is this one also bootleg?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLIND-ILLUSION-THE-SANE-ASYLUM-CD_W0QQitemZ190113200965QQihZ009QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's from the same seller and it's the third Blind Illusion CD he sold in last few months ...



Thanks, Sideshow! What's the usual price of that CD?

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Thanks, Sideshow! What's the usual price of that CD?

I'd say usually in the $20-$25 range at the most. That's their most common CD (original press, anyway).

And that Blind Illusion disc; definitely a boot. Seller is from Greece for one, and he always lists the same "rare" albums every time (even when the prior listings sell).

some greek bootleg sellers used to write as followings

[I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE FIRST PRESS OR REPRESS CDS]

then it means that is 100% bootleg.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260088070046

Never seen that version of By Inheritance before?!

That's one of the Russian pressings. Legit if you're in Russia, I suppose, but not to be sold outside of the country from all I've read.

You could probably label it a bootleg, as it definitely isn't the original, and probably not legal to sell anywhere else but Russia.

pricekillers001 wrote:

some greek bootleg sellers used to write as followings

[I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE FIRST PRESS OR REPRESS CDS]

then it means that is 100% bootleg.

Those listings always make me laugh. They know enough to say it's an ULTRA RARE or MEGA RARE CD, but then they don't know if it's an original press or a re-issue? Yea, riiiiiiiiight.

Is this the original Amnesia CD? The seller looks a bit doubtful to me,
as he also sells some Detente, Powermad, etc. bootlegs, as well as that
Russian By Inheritance version ...



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