Cannabis (Marijuna might become legal in California

There's a bill, and if it gets approved, Marijuna will be legal for 21 and older, just like beer.

Your thoughts?

It is against federal law to possess or smoke marijuana. Federal law > state law; therefore, marijuana will not be legal in California.

Personally, I don't have a problem with this.

If alcohol is legal for a certain age, I think pot should be too.

I've used/abused both in my lifetime and I seriously think alcohol caused me more problems and potential problems.

XYZ makes a good point.

A small town here in MO recently voted MJ legal because the mayor has cancer and is undergoing chemo. THe state said it didn't care what Podunkcity said, the state law trumps the town law.

Same thing with CA vs USA.

It's already legal for Marijuana to be prescribed medically in several states (including California).

They just changed the law here in Austin last week, that if you're caught possessing less than an ounce they won't even take you to jail, they'll just confiscate it and write you a ticket for a misdemeanor.

It's about time I say. Instead of doctors prescribing millions of addictive narcotic tranquilizers every year...just give 'em some pot.

Big deal. It's not like legality is stopping anyone.

I'm not really surprised...Salvia is legal here in oregon which is basically used like weed but has the power of LSD or ambineta/cyanises.

It should definitely have been legal a hell of a long time ago, anyways. This legalization is long, long overdue.

If it does expect a boost in fast food sales.

I have a friend that lived in California for many years and just returned. He told me that they have "medicinal pot stores" there, and that people pass their medical cards around and go shopping. I don't know if this is true or not, you'd think they'd at least ID people to make sure they had the right "patient".
As far as Federal law trumping state law, I think it's a matter of how badly the Feds want to push any patricular matter in the courts etc. For example I believe that the Abortion laws in North Dakota are now much more restrictive than most other states, and I don't believe that the Feds have challenged this as far as I know. This may change with the new administration.
I know sometimes State laws that are contrary to Federal are allowed to stand, but the Feds choose to withhold funding of certain programs from the State as a consequence.
I may be wrong about much of this. If anyone has followed these issues more closely I'd be curious to know more about it.

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

That's right, and i personally believe if people are gonna smoke cigarettes or drink it should be taxed the hell out of also. Things that are bad for health should be taxed heavily instead of taxing necessities so much.

Troublezone wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

That's right, and i personally believe if people are gonna smoke cigarettes or drink it should be taxed the hell out of also. Things that are bad for health should be taxed heavily instead of taxing necessities so much.

Depending on where you live some states/cities already tax the hell out of cigarettes and booze... I think in NYC nowadays a pack of smokes will set you back about eight bucks, one kidney, and your first born child

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

That's right, and i personally believe if people are gonna smoke cigarettes or drink it should be taxed the hell out of also. Things that are bad for health should be taxed heavily instead of taxing necessities so much.

Depending on where you live some states/cities already tax the hell out of cigarettes and booze... I think in NYC nowadays a pack of smokes will set you back about eight bucks, one kidney, and your first born child

LOL!!!!!! I do agree with you that pot should be legal and tax the hell out of it - maybe use the tax to pay off all of these corp bailouts.....

thejokeriv wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

That's right, and i personally believe if people are gonna smoke cigarettes or drink it should be taxed the hell out of also. Things that are bad for health should be taxed heavily instead of taxing necessities so much.

Depending on where you live some states/cities already tax the hell out of cigarettes and booze... I think in NYC nowadays a pack of smokes will set you back about eight bucks, one kidney, and your first born child

LOL!!!!!! I do agree with you that pot should be legal and tax the hell out of it - maybe use the tax to pay off all of these corp bailouts.....

agree.

I'm going to be the voice that thinks it's a bad idea. My friends and I gave a lot of years to the wacky weed and i'm the only one out of a core group of five of us who didn't go onto seriously hard drugs. There were some in the bigger group who didn't and I know, not everyone does that, but most who do start with pot so why make that door available. And you can't really equate pot with alcohol as it's possible to drink some and not be drunk but you can't smoke and not be high. Not trying to fight but i've seen way too much negative that started with pot and i'm really glad it wasn't legal when I was into it as it would have made stopping so much harder.

NumbskullakaNazgul wrote:

I'm going to be the voice that thinks it's a bad idea. My friends and I gave a lot of years to the wacky weed and i'm the only one out of a core group of five of us who didn't go onto seriously hard drugs. There were some in the bigger group who didn't and I know, not everyone does that, but most who do start with pot so why make that door available. And you can't really equate pot with alcohol as it's possible to drink some and not be drunk but you can't smoke and not be high. Not trying to fight but i've seen way too much negative that started with pot and i'm really glad it wasn't legal when I was into it as it would have made stopping so much harder.

Good point, I have seen this first hand too. I do feel that maybe it should be de-criminalized rather than legalized. I don't feel like a person should be in jail or a felon for some weed though.

How many people are killed by drunk drivers every year?

Alcohol is a much harsher drug. I've had nights drinking where I don't remember anything, yet kept functioning for hours. That doesn't happen from getting high.

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Big deal. It's not like legality is stopping anyone.

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Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

I agree on both points. I wish more states would decriminilize weed. People are gonna get high no matter what. So why not let them do it legally and make some money on it.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

There lies the problem. They can't tax what you grow in your house. You can grow it just as good as they can, if not better. They make more money off fines. It's the only reason it's still illegal. Alcohol and cigs kill 100 of thousands of people and they're legal. We can't grow tobacco as good as they can and pump it full of chemicals to get people addicted to it.

hypocrites.

DenimAndLeather wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

There lies the problem. They can't tax what you grow in your house. You can grow it just as good as they can, if not better. They make more money off fines. It's the only reason it's still illegal. Alcohol and cigs kill 100 of thousands of people and they're legal. We can't grow tobacco as good as they can and pump it full of chemicals to get people addicted to it.

hypocrites.

If California legalizes it, would they also manufacture it, like cigarettes? Or would it just be legal to possess it, home grown or not?

Not sure. When alaska passed their law, you could grow 4 ounces of it.

California already manufactures it, and some places it's legal to grow up to 25 plants. Just not with the feds of course.

sam wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Might as well legalize it... then the states can tax it and make money off of it.

That's right, and i personally believe if people are gonna smoke cigarettes or drink it should be taxed the hell out of also. Things that are bad for health should be taxed heavily instead of taxing necessities so much.

Depending on where you live some states/cities already tax the hell out of cigarettes and booze... I think in NYC nowadays a pack of smokes will set you back about eight bucks, one kidney, and your first born child

LOL!!!!!! I do agree with you that pot should be legal and tax the hell out of it - maybe use the tax to pay off all of these corp bailouts.....

agree.

I agree also. No one has ever over-dosed on marijuana. I think alcohol is more deadly than mary jane. Let's make it legal and tax it so much to help this country. I think it'll put the DEA out of commission, and that's probably one of the reasons why it's still illegal, to fight a drug war that will never end.

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I think alcohol is more deadly than mary jane

You don't have to think about that, you're right.

DenimAndLeather wrote:

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I think alcohol is more deadly than mary jane

You don't have to think about that, you're right.