Metallica vs. Megadeth

mc666 wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

The Black album is far better IMHO.

i agree with this. it had more hooks, & better song writing.

Agreed ... and better production IMHO.

Definitely Youthanasia and by quite a long way. After Rust In Peace, it's my favourite Megadeth record. There's just something about it - it's slow and melodic for the most part, but I also think it's very heavy. It just seems to have a quality about it that never appeared on any Megadeth album, with songs like 'Addicted to Chaos' sending chills down my spine. I don't dislike the Black Album, but I think it suffers greatly towards the end. 'Through the Never', 'The God That Failed', 'My Friend Misery' and 'The Struggle Within', whilst not terrible, are quite boring and just sort of spoil the album. The rest of it ranges from good to fantastic but I'll stick by Youthanasia any day.

Youthanasia all the way!!!!
Though Youth was less heavy
lyrically it never suffered.
TBA had some really stupid lyrics
although it had a few good points.

The last Megadeth album I owned (and loved) was Rust In Peace, so I can't comment other than the few times I heard Countdown and Youth...I didn't like them enough to purchase them. I've pretty much ignored them ever since.

The Black album has it's moments, but I'm so burnt out on it...the only tracks I can still stomach listening to are 'Holier Than Thou' and 'Through The Never'...and only once every 3 years or so.

Youthanasia is a great album, Black is just meh.

I am partial to the Black album as it frequented my CD player for a long time. It has a great sound and the songs were solid.

I just find myself enjoying Youthanasia more these days than the Black album.

I'm going with Youthanasia by a smidge.

akeldama wrote:

Youthanasia all the way!!!!
Though Youth was less heavy
lyrically it never suffered.
TBA had some really stupid lyrics
although it had a few good points.

Stupid lyrics? Hmmmm, some may have been a bit less serious, but nothing "Stupid".

I always thought, overall, Metallica had some great lyrics. James Hetfield wrote some of the best lyrics in metal, IN MY OPINION.

Thats an easy choice

Youthanasia wins hands down

While the black album is ok i dont listen to it very often, Ill pop in Youthanasia 10 times at least before i pop in the black album

Youth kills it, imo.

One of my top 3 Deth releases.

I haven't listened to the Black album in 12 years.

Both are good. Although the black album tends to be a little more commercial, it has a combination of melody and aggressivity i still enjoy today (although i never really liked metallica )

ultmetal wrote:

Yes, I know we've discussed this to death, but what I want to discuss is

The Black Album vs. Youthansia

Obviously both are more melodic and have a more commercial appeal. Personally, I've never disliked either album, although the metal masses seem to diss both albums.

Of the two, I tend to listen to Youthansia the most. I like Mustaine's punk, snake-like hiss, vocal delivery. I also think it's a pretty heavy album, despite being more commercial. There are some great riffs, and some choice solos as well.

What say ye?

There's always been something about Metallica's "Black" album that elicits such a ho-hum response from me. Having always been a Metallica "Fanboy", the "Black" album is the album, I've always wanted to love, but just never have. It's the album that even some 18 years later, I still can't believe I'm hearing the songs that I'm hearing. I was 20 years old at the time, and my life consisted of everything Metallica. If I saw anything with their name embossed on it, I bought it, whether it was a bootleg, magazine, poster, etc...

Megadeth on the other hand was a band that I always really liked (a lot), but still was a band which placed a distant second to that of Metallica. I probably should've been just as shocked when "Countdown To Extinction" came out, as it was a carbon copy blue print of the "Black" album, in terms of being more radio friendly. Perhaps my reservations with Metallica's new album came about due to the fact that they released a video for their new album a week and a half prior to the album coming out. Here was a band that never really believed in the medium that was video, yet they were using this formula to push this album. Maybe it was the song "Enter Sandman", which I still don't like to this day. Had the band gone with Bob Rock's idea for "Holier Than Thou" to be the lead single, maybe my initial impression of the album would've been different???

Onto "Youthanasia"...

Though I liked "Countdown To Extinction", I think that "Youthanasia" is Megadeth's best record post "Rust In Peace". Yes, it's just as slick as it's predecessor, but it's heaviness eclipses that of the aforementioned as well as that of the "Black" album. I think minus "Train of Consequences", which was the obvious radio single, this album crushes. "Elysian Fields" IMO is one of the best songs that Megadeth has ever penned. Sadly, it's probably a song that hasn't seen its way onto a setlist since that tour. This would also be the last album by Megadeth that actually got a push by the likes of MTV. I don't know if anyone remembers on Halloween night in 1994, when "Night of the Living Megadeth" (posted below) was on MTV? It's kind of shocking to think that Megadeth still had that much of an influence on MTV, since "Grunge" was the thing back then.

"Youthanasia" was also one of the last records that I actually went out at midnight to go buy, which was always a fun thing to experience during one's youth. I love Metallica and always will, but give me Megadeth with this album over Metallica's "Black" album.

http://megadethworld.com/new/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=&task=videodirectlink&id=77

metalinmyveins wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Yes, I know we've discussed this to death, but what I want to discuss is

The Black Album vs. Youthansia

Obviously both are more melodic and have a more commercial appeal. Personally, I've never disliked either album, although the metal masses seem to diss both albums.

Of the two, I tend to listen to Youthansia the most. I like Mustaine's punk, snake-like hiss, vocal delivery. I also think it's a pretty heavy album, despite being more commercial. There are some great riffs, and some choice solos as well.

What say ye?

There's always been something about Metallica's "Black" album that elicits such a ho-hum response from me. Having always been a Metallica "Fanboy", the "Black" album is the album, I've always wanted to love, but just never have. It's the album that even some 18 years later, I still can't believe I'm hearing the songs that I'm hearing. I was 20 years old at the time, and my life consisted of everything Metallica. If I saw anything with their name embossed on it, I bought it, whether it was a bootleg, magazine, poster, etc...

Megadeth on the other hand was a band that I always really liked (a lot), but still was a band which placed a distant second to that of Metallica. I probably should've been just as shocked when "Countdown To Extinction" came out, as it was a carbon copy blue print of the "Black" album, in terms of being more radio friendly. Perhaps my reservations with Metallica's new album came about due to the fact that they released a video for their new album a week and a half prior to the album coming out. Here was a band that never really believed in the medium that was video, yet they were using this formula to push this album. Maybe it was the song "Enter Sandman", which I still don't like to this day. Had the band gone with Bob Rock's idea for "Holier Than Thou" to be the lead single, maybe my initial impression of the album would've been different???

Onto "Youthanasia"...

Though I liked "Countdown To Extinction", I think that "Youthanasia" is Megadeth's best record post "Rust In Peace". Yes, it's just as slick as it's predecessor, but it's heaviness eclipses that of the aforementioned as well as that of the "Black" album. I think minus "Train of Consequences", which was the obvious radio single, this album crushes. "Elysian Fields" IMO is one of the best songs that Megadeth has ever penned. Sadly, it's probably a song that hasn't seen its way onto a setlist since that tour. This would also be the last album by Megadeth that actually got a push by the likes of MTV. I don't know if anyone remembers on Halloween night in 1994, when "Night of the Living Megadeth" (posted below) was on MTV? It's kind of shocking to think that Megadeth still had that much of an influence on MTV, since "Grunge" was the thing back then.

"Youthanasia" was also one of the last records that I actually went out at midnight to go buy, which was always a fun thing to experience during one's youth. I love Metallica and always will, but give me Megadeth with this album over Metallica's "Black" album.

http://megadethworld.com/new/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=&task=videodirectlink&id=77

metalin, are you a writer by trade?

If not, you may want to look into that.

SpectreFate wrote:

metalinmyveins wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Yes, I know we've discussed this to death, but what I want to discuss is

The Black Album vs. Youthansia

Obviously both are more melodic and have a more commercial appeal. Personally, I've never disliked either album, although the metal masses seem to diss both albums.

Of the two, I tend to listen to Youthansia the most. I like Mustaine's punk, snake-like hiss, vocal delivery. I also think it's a pretty heavy album, despite being more commercial. There are some great riffs, and some choice solos as well.

What say ye?

There's always been something about Metallica's "Black" album that elicits such a ho-hum response from me. Having always been a Metallica "Fanboy", the "Black" album is the album, I've always wanted to love, but just never have. It's the album that even some 18 years later, I still can't believe I'm hearing the songs that I'm hearing. I was 20 years old at the time, and my life consisted of everything Metallica. If I saw anything with their name embossed on it, I bought it, whether it was a bootleg, magazine, poster, etc...

Megadeth on the other hand was a band that I always really liked (a lot), but still was a band which placed a distant second to that of Metallica. I probably should've been just as shocked when "Countdown To Extinction" came out, as it was a carbon copy blue print of the "Black" album, in terms of being more radio friendly. Perhaps my reservations with Metallica's new album came about due to the fact that they released a video for their new album a week and a half prior to the album coming out. Here was a band that never really believed in the medium that was video, yet they were using this formula to push this album. Maybe it was the song "Enter Sandman", which I still don't like to this day. Had the band gone with Bob Rock's idea for "Holier Than Thou" to be the lead single, maybe my initial impression of the album would've been different???

Onto "Youthanasia"...

Though I liked "Countdown To Extinction", I think that "Youthanasia" is Megadeth's best record post "Rust In Peace". Yes, it's just as slick as it's predecessor, but it's heaviness eclipses that of the aforementioned as well as that of the "Black" album. I think minus "Train of Consequences", which was the obvious radio single, this album crushes. "Elysian Fields" IMO is one of the best songs that Megadeth has ever penned. Sadly, it's probably a song that hasn't seen its way onto a setlist since that tour. This would also be the last album by Megadeth that actually got a push by the likes of MTV. I don't know if anyone remembers on Halloween night in 1994, when "Night of the Living Megadeth" (posted below) was on MTV? It's kind of shocking to think that Megadeth still had that much of an influence on MTV, since "Grunge" was the thing back then.

"Youthanasia" was also one of the last records that I actually went out at midnight to go buy, which was always a fun thing to experience during one's youth. I love Metallica and always will, but give me Megadeth with this album over Metallica's "Black" album.

http://megadethworld.com/new/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=&task=videodirectlink&id=77

metalin, are you a writer by trade?

If not, you may want to look into that.

This is more evidence to my claim that metalheads are some of the most cerebral individuals around.

[/quote] metalin, are you a writer by trade?

If not, you may want to look into that.[/quote]

No I'm not, but thanks for the compliment. I've thought about going this route before, because I truly believe that EVERYONE has a story to tell. The story doesn't always have to be a biography per se, but we all have imaginations. Hence, many people out there, if inspired enough could equate those thoughts to paper. I'm definitely in "Career Hell" right now, so maybe I will go down that route.

[/quote] This is more evidence to my claim that metalheads are some of the most cerebral individuals around. [/quote]

I concur! I think that "Metal heads" are seriously under estimated, and generally deemed to be stupid. I will tell state this with the utter most conviction, I've had more constructive conversations in this place than I have on any other board. I'm not a "Board whore" in the slightest, but those I've been on have their fair share of idiots. This is a cool place, with cool people.

if i had to pick up one megadeth album, which would it be?

Gilbert wrote:

if i had to pick up one megadeth album, which would it be?

I think you're going to get a few different opinions on here. I would have to go with:

1. Peace Sells...But Who's Buying
2. Rust In Peace
3. So Far, So Good, So What
4. Youthanasia

Those are my top 4. Everything after those albums are also good albums, but I think these are the bands Top 4 IMO.

Gilbert wrote:

if i had to pick up one megadeth album, which would it be?

Here's my picks.

1 Countdown To Extinction
Probably my favorite album of all time. It's a great album in the sense that it has both the best of the thrash-metal Megadeth and the melodic hard rock Megadeth. Also, this one demonstrates Marty Friedman's godly guitar skills better than any other!

2 So Far So Good So What
Raw, thrashy, aggressive, and just awesome. This one sounds really pissed off. Makes me want to break stuff.

3 Rust In Peace
Hailed by most as the best Deth. I disagree, but it's darn good. It's a lot like SFSGSW except toning down the pissed-offitude a bit.

I have to go with popular opinion and say 'Rust in Peace' I love this album, features some Dave Mustaine's best songwriting and playing and of course marks Marty Friedman's first outing with the band and completes the classic Megadeth line up.

Either Peace Sells or Rust In Peace...I'd have to flip a coin to decide.

If you like raw nasty thrash go with Peace...if you like technically impressive (but still nasty) thrash then go with Rust.

Rust In Peace - probably the best thrash album ever made. Probably.

Thought this was interesting:

Smindas wrote:

Rust In Peace - probably the best thrash album ever made. Probably.

along with Reign in Blood. definitely the top two in my book.

Gilbert wrote:

if i had to pick up one megadeth album, which would it be?

Killing Is My Business...And Business Is Good!
Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Rust In Peace
So Far, So Good, So What?!

IN ORDER OF HOW I LIKE DETH ALBUMS

Countdown to Extinction
Youthanasia
Cryptic Writings
Hidden Treasures
Rust in Peace
Peace Sells