Nu Metal or Metalcore

I voted pooMetal but to me, these two genres are virtually indistinguishable.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I've probably used this line before, but that choice is like asking "would you rather set your hair on fire or slam your nuts in a car door for an hour?"

Would I be able to put my hair out within a few seconds or do I have to let it burn off completely? And am I slamming the car door on my nuts voluntarily or is someone doing this to me against my will? Either way, I'm choosing one of them over the musical choices put here, but I don't feel that I can fairly decide on which form of torture I'd rather endure until I fully understand the circumstances.

MetalRob331 wrote:

Nu by more then 500 miles. There is/was more diversity in nu metal. Metal Core has 2 bands that define that genre and everyone else tries to sound like them. Nu metal has some great bands like Sevendust, DKL, Disturbed, Soulfly, a few Korn albums, SOAD, and more i cant think of.

I would not lable Disturbes, SOAD and especially Soulfly "Nu-Metal" - Not because I like them alot, but -
DISTURBED - I would not concider them "nu Metal" - They have an interesting sound, and SOLO'S - Their more.. "Heavy Tribal-Rythmic Mainstream-Appealing Metal" - Disturbed do no have the awful Hip Hop influences, and the music, especially the guitar-work, has a lot more variety - I kinda like them, especially theit new album, which has more real Heavy Metal than their past releases.


SOAD - I don't like them, but they are not "Nu Metal" - They have a unique sound..unfortunately, not a good one


SOULFLY - Definitely not "Nu-Metal" - Granted, their first release had a lot of "Nu" influences, but their sound is mainly Modern Aggro-Metal with Metalcore influences - Their newest release also has a lot of Machine Head sound in it

Eyesore wrote:

No. You asked if there was much difference. I'm assuming you don't know much about either genre if you think they sound similar.

Well, what is it exactly that makes metalcore....core?

I have some Metalcore albums (though not many) and I enjoy some of them on concerts. But I really can't get into NU at all. I can listen to Slipknot but an entire album is a torture, because after listening to 4 songs it begins to bore. So my vote goes for Metalcore.

Schbopo wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

No. You asked if there was much difference. I'm assuming you don't know much about either genre if you think they sound similar.

Well, what is it exactly that makes metalcore....core?

Core? What is core?

well, if you stick 'core' on metal, you get metalcore, but what makes it different from just plain metal?

Mglaffas81 wrote:

MetalRob331 wrote:

Nu by more then 500 miles. There is/was more diversity in nu metal. Metal Core has 2 bands that define that genre and everyone else tries to sound like them. Nu metal has some great bands like Sevendust, DKL, Disturbed, Soulfly, a few Korn albums, SOAD, and more i cant think of.

I would not lable Disturbes, SOAD and especially Soulfly "Nu-Metal" - Not because I like them alot, but -
DISTURBED - I would not concider them "nu Metal" - They have an interesting sound, and SOLO'S - Their more.. "Heavy Tribal-Rythmic Mainstream-Appealing Metal" - Disturbed do no have the awful Hip Hop influences, and the music, especially the guitar-work, has a lot more variety - I kinda like them, especially theit new album, which has more real Heavy Metal than their past releases.


SOAD - I don't like them, but they are not "Nu Metal" - They have a unique sound..unfortunately, not a good one


SOULFLY - Definitely not "Nu-Metal" - Granted, their first release had a lot of "Nu" influences, but their sound is mainly Modern Aggro-Metal with Metalcore influences - Their newest release also has a lot of Machine Head sound in it

Disturbed's first 2 releases to me were def nu-metal, it doesnt have to have rap influences or hip hop to be considered nu metal. SOAD is def Nu Metal especially there debut, as well as Soulfly IMO there debut and Primative are easy picks for Nu Metal.

Schbopo wrote:

well, if you stick 'core' on metal, you get metalcore, but what makes it different from just plain metal?

What is plain metal?

smurf poo I will take either of those over Nu-Metal. I do like alot of the stuff people call nu-metal though and get down on some of that stuff too. If you are talking Orgy and Limp Bizkit nu-metal I am out. If you're talking Disturbed, Life is Peachy Korn, or some Static - X I am down.

Eyesore wrote:

What is plain metal?

Stop avoiding the question!

Schbopo wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

What is plain metal?

Stop avoiding the question!

I'm not avoiding the question. You're asking things that don't make sense. Nu-metal and metalcore are vastly different styles of music. Nu-metal is largely derived from alternative rock, only kicked up a few notches, making it heavier. Metalcore is was originally thrash/tradition heavy metal played through a hardcore filter (dumbed down, if you will), like in that video of Cataract I posted above. It evolved after a while and pulled in a little more of the pop side of things with the clean choruses and everything, but largely stayed the same musically. And not every band went this route, of course. It has again evolved and gotten closer to heavy metal, with leads and less screaming and more aggressive singing. But again, not every band does this. But like nu-metal, it's a broad genre now, which makes it somewhat confusing for someone not an obsessive music fan, like some of us here.

Either way, nu-metal and metalcore are ambiguous "genres," namely because there are so many bands under those roofs that sound nothing like each other and play styles too different to even be considered similar. One thing is for certain, however: nu-metal is nothing like metalcore.

Alright then, thanks. My vote still goes to nu-metal.

At this point I say Metalcore...

I voted for metalcore. Nu metal is just .

mc666 wrote:

you know, it is possible to like all styles of metal & hard rock. why bother with choosing between them?

Yep!!!

IHATEGENRES wrote:

smurf poo I will take either of those over Nu-Metal. I do like alot of the stuff people call nu-metal though and get down on some of that stuff too. If you are talking Orgy and Limp Bizkit nu-metal I am out. If you're talking Disturbed, Life is Peachy Korn, or some Static - X I am down.

Oh god, that is TERRIBLE

METALCORE! I could not live with The Agonist!
KSE are another good metalcore group I like

I think the above comment proves I run dry on my list on metalcore bands

metalcore for me....ZAO!!

I like some bands from each genre. but I must go with nu metal, simply because it's more melodic.


Fave nu metal bands: K0rn, Coal Chamber, Global Warning

Fave metalcore bands: Shadows Fall, Mindrage


I love Disturbed, but I don't consider them nu metal. Sure their first album was, but nowadays they are pretty much a straight up hard rock act with solos and everthing.

God. Metalcore I think. Just because you run into less of the...whiny juvenile angryz mallcore type of stuff that nu-metal is full of. I can't tolerate that stuff at all. Zao, I love Zao. Well, every other album or so. For example, 'Liberate..' good. Self-titled...bad. 'Funeral of God'..amazing. (I know there were a couple in between, whatever). What I hate about metalcore is I don't see any use for the core influence to be there. The new hardcore stuff with all the breakdowns and all that is like a smorgasbord of bad ideas and I honestly can't see how metal benefits from it's presence, when you can amp each aspect up, make it better, and then you'd have death metal and thrash influences instead of the watered down core stuff.

I actually like some metalcore(ITM/A7X/BFMV) but just can't stomach most nu metal. I HATE "thebandthatshallneverbementionedagain"!

Looks like it's almost a tie here.