Thoughts on Recon

spectrefate wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

Myself with Eddie Starline this past September:

ult, you should have arm wrestled him.

Dude, Ult could SO take that guy.

I've never heard of Recon, but from this discussion, they sound pretty cool. Is this cd a bit of a rareity or hard to find nowadays?

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I've never heard of Recon, but from this discussion, they sound pretty cool. Is this cd a bit of a rareity or hard to find nowadays?

The original pressing (on Intense Records) is quite the rarity, it was reissued by Magdalene Recs. in 2000 or '01 but only 1000 copies were made (that's the one I have). As SpectreFate can attest, it's also been bootlegged.

But yea, they're quite good. Imagine if Queensryche had gone to a tent revival meeting during THE WARNING era and gotten themselves some of that ol'time religion.

http://radrockers.com/Details.aspx?iid=5770

$10.00 on Radrockers. That makes me steaming mad at dirt. My bootleg was $9.99 from a seller on Amazon. I'd love to have the original myself. Anyone wanna buy me a Christmas present?

spectrefate wrote:

http://radrockers.com/Details.aspx?iid=5770

$10.00 on Radrockers. That makes me steaming mad at dirt. My bootleg was $9.99 from a seller on Amazon. I'd love to have the original myself.

Those bums. I bought my reissue from RadRockers back in '01 and paid more than $10 for it back then!!

Although I wonder if this is really the "actual" reissue or one of those aforementioned bootlegs. The Sacred Warrior "OBSESSIONS" boot I got was from RadRockers.

*EDIT* I wouldn't be surprised if this Recon disc is the bootleg. Here's the listing for the Sacred Warrior OBSESSIONS I got a while back, he's still selling it, and it's the same price as the Recon disc:

http://radrockers.com/Details.aspx?iid=1851

Bootlegs on Radrockers? Interesting.

I bet that is the bootleg Recon on there then. But it says only 10 songs. My bootleg has 17. Who knows?

spectrefate wrote:

Bootlegs on Radrockers? Interesting.

I bet that is the bootleg Recon on there then. But it says only 10 songs. My bootleg has 17. Who knows?

See the edit I just made to my last post.

If there's only ten songs on the Recon CD, then it's the boot. The M8/Magdalene pressing had six or seven bonus tracks from their demos and the CALIFORNIA METAL II compilation album.

I know Recon is a boot, but it still has the bonus tracks. The disc itself is actually some bad camoflage design. I wish my camera was at work, I'd show you. But that really makes me want to steer clear of Radrockers now that I know he is selling these obvious Sacred Warrior boots.

spectrefate wrote:

I know Recon is a boot, but it still has the bonus tracks. The disc itself is actually some bad camoflage design. I wish my camera was at work, I'd show you. But that really makes me want to steer clear of Radrockers now that I know he is selling these obvious Sacred Warrior boots.

Is your Recon at least a silver pressed CD, or is it a CD-R? Cuz the Sacred Warrior disc I got was a CD-R. Yea, I was a little steamed. Rather than call up the RadRockers guy and rip him a new ass though, I figured I'd chalk it up as a learning experience... besides, as I said, it was the only S.W. disc I didn't own and I had all but given up on ever finding an original at a decent price.

I haven't ordered anything from RadRockers since then, though I probably would if something I really wanted came along... although if something old suddenly turns up as "reissued" that sounds too good to be true, I'd steer clear of it.

ultmetal wrote:

kethdredd wrote:

Fantastic disc, one of my all time favorites. The band is currently working on a new disc. They have a different singer now who's name I can't remember and myspace is blocked at work. I do know that George Ochoa and Mike Grato are in the band still. They played at Cornerstone California.

The new vocalist is Rod Arias (or Rod Dickenson). I've seen Recon with him twice, the first time in 2002. He is a fantastic singer and can nail all those high notes even better than Recon's original vocals. He will not disappoint longtime fans, should the band ever finally decide to record their sophomore release.

The rest of the band is still the same. George Ochoa and Eddie Starline on guitars, John Gonzales on bass and my good friend Mike Grato on bass.

Myself with Eddie Starline this past September:

great photo...lets see if the new singer can sing light the fire properly,hehehe.....

I have my Wicked Generation boot here with me at work and the way it is made is the same way the Recon is made. The numbers on the discs are very similar so they are CD-Rs. But I'm with you. I have the music, and a story to complain about online.

spectrefate wrote:

I have my Wicked Generation boot here with me at work and the way it is made is the same way the Recon is made. The numbers on the discs are very similar so they are CD-Rs. But I'm with you. I have the music, and a story to complain about online.

Yea, they make interesting conversation pieces. "Here, look at this, some guy in Croatia actually bothered to bootleg an album that maybe a few thousand people in the world even give a rat's patoot about, and I got one!"

spectrefate wrote:

I have my Wicked Generation boot here with me at work and the way it is made is the same way the Recon is made. The numbers on the discs are very similar so they are CD-Rs. But I'm with you. I have the music, and a story to complain about online.

i have the original both on vinyl and cd. trade?

syrus wrote:

spectrefate wrote:

I have my Wicked Generation boot here with me at work and the way it is made is the same way the Recon is made. The numbers on the discs are very similar so they are CD-Rs. But I'm with you. I have the music, and a story to complain about online.

i have the original both on vinyl and cd. trade?

No thanks, I'll hold onto the one I have for now and digitize it. Thanks though.

spectrefate wrote:

syrus wrote:

spectrefate wrote:

I have my Wicked Generation boot here with me at work and the way it is made is the same way the Recon is made. The numbers on the discs are very similar so they are CD-Rs. But I'm with you. I have the music, and a story to complain about online.

i have the original both on vinyl and cd. trade?

No thanks, I'll hold onto the one I have for now and digitize it. Thanks though.

actually i never intended to trade it but i thought you wanted it very bad,hehehe.....after all is another souver on the pile for me...

syrus wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

kethdredd wrote:

Fantastic disc, one of my all time favorites. The band is currently working on a new disc. They have a different singer now who's name I can't remember and myspace is blocked at work. I do know that George Ochoa and Mike Grato are in the band still. They played at Cornerstone California.

The new vocalist is Rod Arias (or Rod Dickenson). I've seen Recon with him twice, the first time in 2002. He is a fantastic singer and can nail all those high notes even better than Recon's original vocals. He will not disappoint longtime fans, should the band ever finally decide to record their sophomore release.

The rest of the band is still the same. George Ochoa and Eddie Starline on guitars, John Gonzales on bass and my good friend Mike Grato on bass.

Myself with Eddie Starline this past September:

great photo...lets see if the new singer can sing light the fire properly,hehehe.....

Have heard him sing that song and YES he can more than nail it. He also annihilates on "Slay the Wicked".

ultmetal wrote:

syrus wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

kethdredd wrote:

Fantastic disc, one of my all time favorites. The band is currently working on a new disc. They have a different singer now who's name I can't remember and myspace is blocked at work. I do know that George Ochoa and Mike Grato are in the band still. They played at Cornerstone California.

The new vocalist is Rod Arias (or Rod Dickenson). I've seen Recon with him twice, the first time in 2002. He is a fantastic singer and can nail all those high notes even better than Recon's original vocals. He will not disappoint longtime fans, should the band ever finally decide to record their sophomore release.

The rest of the band is still the same. George Ochoa and Eddie Starline on guitars, John Gonzales on bass and my good friend Mike Grato on bass.

Myself with Eddie Starline this past September:

great photo...lets see if the new singer can sing light the fire properly,hehehe.....

Have heard him sing that song and YES he can more than nail it. He also annihilates on "Slay the Wicked".

hey, ult, check paradox' myspace from TX(they have samples from the wraith. crusaders of the cross slays!). can't wait for a recon release,btw(after your comment)...lets see if there's still a place for some pure US steel in their hearts....

LOVE Recon!!! "Behind Enemy Lines" is one of my favorite Christian metal albums of all time! I picked this up on tape back when it first came out. Need to upgrade to a cd though, as my tape took a dive long ago. I dont' want one of those boots. Maybe they'll reissue this soon.

spectrefate wrote:

http://radrockers.com/Details.aspx?iid=5770

$10.00 on Radrockers. That makes me steaming mad at dirt. My bootleg was $9.99 from a seller on Amazon. I'd love to have the original myself. Anyone wanna buy me a Christmas present?

I stopped buying from radrockers because of the boots, they are easy to spot though, he calls them "imports".

I think this band should make a new album already. The one they do have is good, but after seeing them a few times over the past few years, they have played new songs that really kill!!! So its time they should finally get busy and get it done!

Spec and FF,I've got the2001 Magdalene version.17 songs with lyrics inside the booklet.It also says Limited Edition on the inner tray card.does this sound like yours?

thrasher73 wrote:

Spec and FF,I've got the2001 Magdalene version.17 songs with lyrics inside the booklet.It also says Limited Edition on the inner tray card.does this sound like yours?

Yup, that's the one I got.

thrasher73 wrote:

Spec and FF,I've got the2001 Magdalene version.17 songs with lyrics inside the booklet.It also says Limited Edition on the inner tray card.does this sound like yours?

I'm not sure. Send it to me and I'll let you know.

spectrefate wrote:

thrasher73 wrote:

Spec and FF,I've got the2001 Magdalene version.17 songs with lyrics inside the booklet.It also says Limited Edition on the inner tray card.does this sound like yours?

I'm not sure. Send it to me and I'll let you know.

Ive been hearing of Recon's "Behind Enemy Lines" for years,but have never actually heard it (or the band).Please don't tell me they're a complete Queesryche copy? Are they heavier musically? Or just the vocals resemble Tate ?